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07-01-2017, 01:04 PM
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He's a shutdown type with good transition passing. He'll be Buff's partner. He's basically tailor made to be Buff's partner.

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Yes, but there is directionality to age curves. It doesn't average past results...

I actually disagree and believe the opposite. Enstrom's defensive impact has been fairly stable the past few years. His offense was shot, but he also had about half his normal sh% and IAP (assists per on ice goal). Both of those are things are typically signs that a player underperformed their true talent impact on offense.
I hope you're right. My take is his injuries and age are causing more change in his game than anticipated. I'm also not a fan of having Toby and Buff reunite for more games this season. They were not effective together last year.

My preference would be Toby and Myers on a stellar 3rd pairing.

Morrissey-Buff
Kulikov-Trouba
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07-01-2017, 01:14 PM
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MoJo - Trouba
Kulikov - Buff
Enstrom - Myers
Poolman, Chiarot

That will be the roster when healthy, book it.

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Mason and Kulikov are the two signings I had hoped for, but I don't sense people are appreciating the value we got here in Kulikov:

1)Kulikov is an extremely very gifted defensive defenseman, with offensive potential that was displayed in Fla. He is a solid #3-4 IMO, despite his GAR, and if he plays to his potential could complement Buff or Trouba on the top pair in a pinch.

2) He is the same age as Perreault was when we stole him as a UFA and, if he stays healthy, will surprise on the upside the way Perreault did, IMO. Not by scoring a ton, but by cleaning up on the defensive side the way Toby did in his prime.

3)Speaking of Toby, I really don't think he has much left in the tank.* I am hoping he stays healthy this year, but woul;d rather have him on our third pair than Kulikov.

5) 3 years is the term I wanted. It will take that long to bring Niku into the fold and there is very little LD depth behind Morrissey* for the foreseeable future.

Not that we have had many...but I haven't felt this happy about a UFA signing since Perreault.

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07-01-2017, 01:28 PM
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MoJo - Trouba
Kulikov - Buff
Enstrom - Myers
Poolman, Chiarot

That will be the roster when healthy, book it.
I'm willing to put my money on this as well. As much as stat nerds say that Enstrom should be above Kulikov (and they might be right), Kulikov's game seems too fitting for him not to be Buff's partner. He is practically everything we've ever wanted Buff to play with: a strong, defensive minded LHD.

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07-01-2017, 01:36 PM
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I'm willing to put my money on this as well. As much as stat nerds say that Enstrom should be above Kulikov (and they might be right), Kulikov's game seems too fitting for him not to be Buff's partner. He is practically everything we've ever wanted Buff to play with: a strong, defensive minded LHD.
It's almost a no brainer he plays with Buff. He is the perfect partner for him. Outside of Morrissey. Now if we can get good Buff on most nights and a stable rock in Kulikov that pairing could be really really solid.

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It's almost a no brainer he plays with Buff. He is the perfect partner for him. Outside of Morrissey. Now if we can get good Buff on most nights and a stable rock in Kulikov that pairing could be really really solid.
If buff is playing closer to 2nd pairing minutes, I think we'll be seeing a lot more good buff. Great offseason for Chevy so far.

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I think this was Chevy's "Plan B" after whatever potential trade he had before the draft fell through.

We have plenty of scoring so I'm happy he is known for his defensive play.

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Meh. It's not like he was way better previous seasons, thanks to getting penalties:
I don't understand how a player can regress so much from what those stats indicated in 2011-12 to the player he currently is. Heck even 2-3 years after 11-12 he had pretty noticeable regression and we are talking about a player who should be in their prime at the age of 26. What gives? Have injury and attitude caused this?


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Rick Ralph said Kulikov signing has not been "officially" announced by the team. Is this something to be concerned about?

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I don't understand how a player can regress so much from what those stats indicate in 2011-12 to the player he currently is. Heck even 2-3 years after 11-12 he had pretty noticeable regression and we are talking about a player who should be in their prime at the age of 26. What gives? Have injury and attitude caused this?
High PPTOI and PP points.

Don't get too excited about the orange sections of these graphs.

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Rick Ralph said Kulikov signing has not been "officially" announced by the team. Is this something to be concerned about?
I am wondering about that too. My guess is that they might be waiting for him to come to Winnipeg today to announce the signing at a press conference?

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High PPTOI and PP points.

Don't get too excited about the orange sections of these graphs.
Oh i see. Thanks.

The EV offense sure regressed.

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I think this was Chevy's "Plan B" after whatever potential trade he had before the draft fell through.

We have plenty of scoring so I'm happy he is known for his defensive play.
I sort of agree. I think Plan A was a trade for Emelin through the XD. There were enough indications from "insiders" to indicate that was the plan. When that fell through I think the Plan B was Alzner. I believe Kulikov is Plan C.

Still, Chevy has recovered pretty well from whatever conversations fell through. Not perfect but certainly much better than past years, and now the team has a fighting chance. IMO the biggest cloud on the horizon now is Maurice.

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I think this was Chevy's "Plan B" after whatever potential trade he had before the draft fell through.

We have plenty of scoring so I'm happy he is known for his defensive play.
I like Kulikov over Emelin anyways.

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Well, 2 years would have been nice, but at least something is happening and that is sign that now is time to make some noise. And this won't kill us even we have to make signings to younger guys later. Hope he rebounds back to his 11-12 season level!

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Well, 2 years would have been nice, but at least something is happening and that is sign that now is time to make some noise. And this won't kill us even we have to make signings to younger guys later. Hope he rebounds back to his 11-12 season level!
I too prefer 2 over 3 years, but honestly wasn't going to happen and the 3rd year is still tradeable.

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I too prefer 2 over 3 years, but honestly wasn't going to happen and the 3rd year is still tradeable.
True, 3rd year is indeed tradeable. Happy with these signings (Mason, Kulikov).

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Rick Ralph said Kulikov signing has not been "officially" announced by the team. Is this something to be concerned about?
Heard that too. Just came out 7 mins ago on the Jets twitter. It's official!

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Like the signing, but money and term is a bit much. I guess it's the going rate for fringe top 4 UFA defensemen. Still a better deal than what Alzner got in Montreal however.
They compare fairly closely. Kulikov was a little better and I think Kulikov has more potential to be better next year than last.

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Definitely an improvement on Chiarot. Still not as good as Toby, even last year's Toby.

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People think he is an enstrom replacement? He's a third pairing D. Shows how people overrate new things and underrate the things they have.

Seems very steep and long for a postma/chariot replacement. That said the Jets definitely needed to upgrade there. So that's a good thing. Hopefully Poolman is better.

Just imagine what Trouba is going to ask for when a likely number six D with six goals in three years is getting 4+ for 3 years. Yikes.


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People think he is an enstrom replacement? He's a third pairing D tops. Shows how people overrate new things and underrate the things they have.

Seems very steep and long for a postma/chariot replacement. Hopefully Poolman is better.

Just imagine what Trouba is going to ask for if a likely number six D with six goals in three years it getting 4+ for 3 years. Yikes.
No gm is paying that money for a 3rd pairing dman. Surely people can see that.

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Basically Enstrom's replacement a year early with a ELC slotting in the plan for 18-19 on the bottom pair?
Roughly speaking but Kulikov will have to do more than just bounce back to replace Enstrom. His best year ('15) he was just about equal to Toby's worst year (last year).

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