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07-10-2017, 10:24 AM
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To me, it's so obvious, he wil be tried at center

definitely has the speed to do so. Faceoffs work needed maybe? Galchenyuk doesn't have the speed to be center.

I dont think its that hard to understand

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07-10-2017, 10:32 AM
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To me, it's so obvious, he wil be tried at center

definitely has the speed to do so. Faceoffs work needed maybe? Galchenyuk doesn't have the speed to be center.

I dont think its that hard to understand
Galchenyuk was put on the wing because he was poor defensively not because of his speed... Drouin is even worse defensively and is much more of a winger than #27.
He will last maybe one game as a center.

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07-10-2017, 01:15 PM
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Offensively- Drouin plays like a center. Defensively, that is where his issues lie. Not good on face-offs, disinterested at times during zone responsibilities, not physical or aggressive and just not a good matchup against Centers the size of a Malkin.

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07-10-2017, 01:28 PM
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Offensively- Drouin plays like a center. Defensively, that is where his issues lie. Not good on face-offs, disinterested at times during zone responsibilities, not physical or aggressive and just not a good matchup against Centers the size of a Malkin.
You just called Drouin not aggressive? You clearly dont watch him play.

He is pretty bad in his own zone, however, unlike chuckie, he has the speed to get in the way. It could make all the difference in terms of limiting quality scoring chances against.

I think he's tried at center first.

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07-10-2017, 01:51 PM
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Offensively he is very aggressive.

Defensively- unless he has the puck stolen from him and he is trying to get it right pack then he is passive. And when coming back into the defensive zone he has no clue. Look, maybe Montreal's defensive coaching will get him to play better but in Tampa it was clear that Drouin failed to play aggressive defensive.

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He should stay on the wing. Let the guy play for christ sake, don't try to experiment with him. He his one of the only true talent we had here for the last 20 years don't screw it up.

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To me, it's so obvious, he wil be tried at center

definitely has the speed to do so. Faceoffs work needed maybe? Galchenyuk doesn't have the speed to be center.

I dont think its that hard to understand
Agreed. Baring an unlikely trade for a center, Galchenyuk is really the best option at center by a fair margin.

It would be foolish not to keep trying him at center.

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To me, it's so obvious, he wil be tried at center

definitely has the speed to do so. Faceoffs work needed maybe? Galchenyuk doesn't have the speed to be center.

I dont think its that hard to understand
Center is a lot more than just faceoffs. There is a tonne of responsibility and positioning involved that you can't just simply pluck him there and hope he figures it out.

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What could Galchenyuk do to establish himself as a bona fide center? Does he need a private tutor who would devote himself to the assignment? As for lack of speed, there were celebrated centers who weren't noted for their speed. Phil Esposito comes to mind.

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What could Galchenyuk do to establish himself as a bona fide center? Does he need a private tutor who would devote himself to the assignment? As for lack of speed, there were celebrated centers who weren't noted for their speed. Phil Esposito comes to mind.

This is actually something that needs to happen. Center is the most important position and our biggest need. Chucky needs a lot of coaching. Having a coach just work with him on analyzing his positioning and play, including going over the video of him after every game would be great.

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Center is a lot more than just faceoffs. There is a tonne of responsibility and positioning involved that you can't just simply pluck him there and hope he figures it out.
Faceoffs are so key though with a guy like Galchenyuk. He's obviously a guy you want in the offensive zone, so those offensive zone draws are where he needs to shine. But if he can't win possession on the faceoff, it's generally a shift of terrible defensive hockey, as opposed to a shift with established offensive zone possession.

He should work on his faceoffs for an hour every day.

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This is actually something that needs to happen. Center is the most important position and our biggest need. Chucky needs a lot of coaching. Having a coach just work with him on analyzing his positioning and play, including going over the video of him after every game would be great.
I believe you're right about coaching. It's also pretty clear that Galchenyuk hasn't had nearly the support and coaching necessary for his success at that position up til now. Let's hope that's changed drastically under Julien.

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Who was the last Hab with Drouins speed and skill level?

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More recent than that. Vincent Damphousse.

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07-13-2017, 01:22 AM
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Who was the last Hab with Drouins speed and skill level?
Drouin reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard.

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More recent than that. Vincent Damphousse.
Speed was not Damphousse's best quality.

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Speed was not Damphousse's best quality.
He was fast for his size and good on his skates otherwise. Overall it's a more sensible comparison for Drouin. No one has come close to Lafleur.

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He was fast for his size and good on his skates otherwise. Overall it's a more sensible comparison for Drouin. No one has come close to Lafleur.
Btw, Damphousse was a LW converted to center by the Habs.

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Who was the last Hab with Drouins speed and skill level?
Apparently Jonathan Drouin's skill level decreased by 50% because he's not a center.

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He should stay on the wing. Let the guy play for christ sake, don't try to experiment with him. He his one of the only true talent we had here for the last 20 years don't screw it up.
I think you are overstating his talent here. Habs have had players as good if not better than him in the last 20 years....

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Drouin reminds me a little bit of Denis Savard.
Only with skating. Drouin has a better shot and more vision.

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I think Drouin is going to help Galchenyuk the way he skates and competes on this ice. Peer pressure is going to raise Galchenyuk's game and he's going to realize how important skating is and how this creates more time and space. Move your friggen feet god dam it!

I watched Drouin very closely with the Mooseheads. His last season and a half for Tampa is what we saw in Halifax. He can put on a show and has game breaking talent. Even the season when MacKinnon and a whole bunch of others left after the memorial cup win in 2013, Drouin was still doing amazing plays on his own.

2012-2013 (with MacKinnon and a very stacked team): 105 pts in 49 games and 35 pts in 17 playoffs games

2013-2014 (without MacKinnon but with a young Ehlers and a decent team): 108 pts in 46 games and 41 pts in 16 playoff games

This is a great young addition on our team and the spin off benefits are more than what some people are realizing. Habs have bad depth up the middle? Well, yeah we do but we now have two guys that potentially can be centers for us. 2 is better than 1. Julien will manage this way better than MT. Glad we have a coach that is a good communicator and is respected.

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