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07-07-2017, 05:22 PM
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Sign Jagr

Over the past two seasons Jagr has 112 points
Over the past two seasons Neal has 99 points

Last season Neal only had 6 more goals than jagr.

I bet we could get jagr a lot cheaper than the contract Neal had.

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Jagr jarnkrok fiala

Plus Jagr would be amazing for the young guys on our team as far as leadership especially with fish probably gone.

Jagr would love Tennessee as well and possibly a chance at another cup.

Just some good for thought, but I think Jagr would look good in gold.

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07-07-2017, 05:27 PM
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I'm 100% behind signing Jagr. People will complain that he's too slow or too old, but the guy gets it done. He's averaged over 40 points at 5-on-5 the past 2 seasons, so he's figured out how to excel despite his lack of speed. He's definitely better than at least one of Aberg or Smith for next year, I feel completely confident saying that.

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I support signing jagr

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07-07-2017, 06:14 PM
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Sure. If he doesn't want too much. Why not? We have some coin to play with.

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Give him what he wants for a year (given it's reasonable) and plug him on the second line with Bonino and Fiala. The #2 all-time leading scorer to mentor guys like Fiala and Aberg? Yes, please. Big veteran presence, consistent producer.
Sign me up.

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I'm mixed on this.

I'd love to have a vet like Jagr on the Preds but his speed is slow.

He can score and is surprisingly good at shot suppression but I wonder about the contract and who the Preds could trade for at half price at the deadline.

If he plays 57 games this season he would BREAK GORDIE ****ING HOWE'S most games played in the NHL record. But do you want that for the sake of the team?

A line of Hartnell-Hook-Jagr would be slow but exciting, can Hook provide enough speed to make it work?

Jagr is a RW. Preds need a RW on the 3rd wing. But it would keep Aberg or Salomaki or Gaudeau from being a opening night player.

I'm mixed.

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07-07-2017, 07:31 PM
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I'd love to see it, but it needs to be a cheap contract.

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07-07-2017, 07:32 PM
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I'd love to see it, but it needs to be a cheap contract.
Why? He's still a great producer, as long as it's one year and he doesn't put the team up against the cap ceiling it's fine by me.

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07-07-2017, 07:34 PM
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Why? He's still a great producer, as long as it's one year and he doesn't put the team up against the cap ceiling it's fine by me.
One year deal is a cheap contract lol

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One year deal is a cheap contract lol
No it isn't, it's a short contract. Joe Thorton's deal sure as hell ain't cheap. And Jagr has been signing 1 year deals every season since he came back, so it's a given that it's going to be 1 year.

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I'm not worried about his age as much as the speed at this point. Have we lost too much speed already? If this is the roster we are going with +/- Fishwr, I would be in support of signing him.

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All i know is that he would sure as hell sell some jerseys

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I would sign him just to see the Traveling Jagrs!

I don't know if they've ever come here, but I'm sure they would if we signed him.

Aside from that, heck yes, I'm in favor of signing him!

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07-08-2017, 03:13 AM
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No it isn't, it's a short contract. Joe Thorton's deal sure as hell ain't cheap. And Jagr has been signing 1 year deals every season since he came back, so it's a given that it's going to be 1 year.
Jagr can't pull that kind of money. Frankly I'm not sure how the heck Joe got them to pay him that.

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07-08-2017, 05:33 AM
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Dollars don't matter if we don't need the cap space. Not that he would get it, but even a $6M Jagr on a one year contract doesn't harm the franchise. A three. Contract with $3M AAV is actually worse. But as long as he's signing one year deals, and there's cap space for flexibility, there's basically no overpayment.

I don't care about dollars with Jagr, he'd certainly sell jerseys too. I'm only worries about his speed and stamina. He needs to be limited, and he needs nights off. He's looked okay in Florida, but when he's been a deadline rental recently he's been totally gassed in the playoffs.

Still, as a third liner, I'd love him just for the press and the experience. Of course there are 20+ other teams saying the same thing.

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07-08-2017, 06:57 AM
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As we missed out on Jokinen, here's a 2nd _still legit despite had a disapponting year_ guy who really could help us if on a 1 year deal under or at 3 mill-ish

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07-08-2017, 07:47 AM
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I don't understand why this hasn't been done already. He is perfect on that second line spot and would be a great mentor for guys like Smith and Forsberg.

I'd easily give him 5-6M for a year.

Imagine the pop in this city signing a legend like that.

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Sign him and put him next to Forsberg and Joey?

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Brain says no, heart says yes

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I am all in for it, think he would be a great mentor to the young guys and give the walk up fan a name they already know.

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07-08-2017, 11:10 AM
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Brain says no, heart says yes
Everything should say yes. Even strength is where speed is most important outside of the gimmicky overtime and he excels at even strength. He's maybe the best in the NHL at protecting the puck down low and cycling.

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He needs to be limited, and he needs nights off. He's looked okay in Florida, but when he's been a deadline rental recently he's been totally gassed in the playoffs.
I'm sure lots of people think this just based on his age, but it's wrong. He's played over 1100 minutes just at 5-on-5 each of the past two years. Played his best stretch of hockey after the All-Star break last season. He'd probably benefit from dropping those numbers a bit, but he's an absolute freak, 1100 minutes is insane. Would be 2nd on the Preds slightly behind Johansen.

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That's essentially what I said, "looked okay in Florida"... But if you get into the playoffs, he's scored one goal in 39 playoff games since returning from the KHL. He hasn't been able to keep up when everyone else has their foot on the gas.

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07-08-2017, 11:29 AM
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That's essentially what I said, "looked okay in Florida"... But if you get into the playoffs, he's scored one goal in 39 playoff games since returning from the KHL. He hasn't been able to keep up when everyone else has their foot on the gas.
I don't remember the Florida series where he played 6 games, maybe he was gassed there, dunno, didn't watch. But when he was with Philly and Boston, he didn't look gassed to me. He didn't put up big numbers for Boston, but he played a very effective possession game. Of course that was a while ago, he's only played 6 postseason games since 2013, I don't think you draw too many conclusions about his postseason play given that he's barely been there. The fact that he was actually better after the All-Star break last year, despite playing tons of minutes, is a pretty good sign though.

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I don't know if the posts are still on HF or not, but go read the stuff from his run in Boston, he was not good in those playoffs. You can say possession, but Jagr's possession game has never relied on speed, he could probably be 60 years old and still be decent at protecting the puck and dishing it off along the boards. But if he has zero goals, that's a strong indication that hes off his game because he's unable to get into open shooting lanes.

Like I said, I still want him. Just that he needs to save a bit for the postseason.

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I'd love to have him for regular season but pass on post season. His wheels aren't going to do us any good there.

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