HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie
Notices

John Tavares. Is it possible?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-08-2017, 11:59 AM
  #51
jaffy27
From Russia wth Pain
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orleans
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedunceofhockey View Post
You are aware he is UFA right ? You would be really stupid to do that.
It could be on condition that he signs an extension....he has 1yr left, same situation as Price was in last week.

Anyways, it's a pipe dream for 30 teams, it's a good topic for discussion

jaffy27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 12:04 PM
  #52
thedunceofhockey
Registered User
 
thedunceofhockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 746
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaffy27 View Post
It could be on condition that he signs an extension....he has 1yr left, same situation as Price was in last week.

Anyways, it's a pipe dream for 30 teams, it's a good topic for discussion
Great topic of discussion, but no way the Habs give two of their best wingers to get him. Seriously wouldn't happen. Patches and other pieces maybe but not bot Chucky and Patches, thats delusional.

thedunceofhockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 12:13 PM
  #53
jaffy27
From Russia wth Pain
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orleans
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by thedunceofhockey View Post
Great topic of discussion, but no way the Habs give two of their best wingers to get him. Seriously wouldn't happen. Patches and other pieces maybe but not bot Chucky and Patches, thats delusional.
Oh, totally agree on that one. Patches would have to be part of that deal, along with another roster player and prospect but 100% not Chucky

jaffy27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 12:56 PM
  #54
M.C.G. 31
Moderator
Notorious
 
M.C.G. 31's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 72,161
vCash: 656
Anything is possible if he hits UFA. The problem is he won't.

__________________
M.C.G. 31 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:23 PM
  #55
Redux91
I do Three bullets.
 
Redux91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Montreal West Island
Country: Canada
Posts: 20,367
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Redux91 Send a message via MSN to Redux91
Personally we need to stop him from going to toronto in a year

and YES its way more possible than Stamkos who didnt want to join a dead last team...with matthews ans the kids its VERY different..way more appealing


we need to offer a package that starts with pacioretty's great contract, and it would probably cost galchenyuk as well

but for johnny T, you do it

Redux91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:28 PM
  #56
japhi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,010
vCash: 500
Would love to have him but would be concerned about his declining production. 66 and 70 points last two seasons. I get that he plays on the Isle but those are not numbers you'd want to give up the future and blow up your cap.

Anyone here watch the Isles regularily that can explain the drop in production? Has not been the same player without Okposo which is concerning, the top guys can usually make second tier players better.

japhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:31 PM
  #57
japhi
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,010
vCash: 500
Also, don't see why Toronto would pick him up and how that makes sense in the cap era. They have three forwards that are going to get 6mm plus, one of which is as good as Tavares today and will be looking for 9mm+. The blessing and the curse of tankong, if your prospects pan out your hands are tied on cap.

japhi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:39 PM
  #58
beowulf
Not a nice guy.
 
beowulf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 46,485
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to beowulf
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frenchy View Post
ok but even as stupid as snow is , it's gonna take a lot more than Galchenyuk + to get JT
Depends if it is as a rental or a sign and trade. Personally I would not be interested in him as a rental.

beowulf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:43 PM
  #59
FerrisRox
Registered User
 
FerrisRox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,149
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsFather View Post
We'd be lucky if he doesn't sign with the Leafs. He's a Toronto boy.
The Leafs would be fools to invest that kind of cap and term to a forward, especially a centre. Doesn't make any sense.

FerrisRox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:49 PM
  #60
Chez Weber
King of the North
 
Chez Weber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,349
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by japhi View Post
Would love to have him but would be concerned about his declining production. 66 and 70 points last two seasons. I get that he plays on the Isle but those are not numbers you'd want to give up the future and blow up your cap.

Anyone here watch the Isles regularily that can explain the drop in production? Has not been the same player without Okposo which is concerning, the top guys can usually make second tier players better.
Like Josh Bailey? Bailey had seasons of 32, 41 and 38 points respectively before last season (the first one he was paired with Tavares) and got 56 points.

The thing with Tavares is he's a workhorse and he can do everything on the ice. If no one goes in the corners, he will. He can take more defensive responsabilities to cover his teamates weaknesses and of course, he is able to score goals and make plays. If the quality of his linemates drop, he can compensate for it but his production will also drop.

It's understandable that Okposo departure caused Tavares' numbers to drop. Okposo was capable of creating offensive chances on his own which benefited both of them. I haven't seen much of the Islanders last season but I know they were terrible the first half of the season and JT had a big slump. The good thing however is that he came back really strong in the 2nd half and almost made it look like an average season.

A line with Tavares and Drouin would be crazy

Chez Weber is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 01:58 PM
  #61
Harry Wong
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 401
vCash: 500
Chances of Taveres signing in Montreal have to be pretty poor.
These guys aren't 13 year olds who are just looking to sign with their favorite team from when they were 8 years old (if only they were a free agent.)

Radulovs' case has to be a bit instructive. He signed with a team that is in a State with the lowest tax rate in the NHL. In his case he supposedly saved over $4 million over the life of his contract. Presumably in Tavers case he would lose even more. Montreal has to have amongst, if not the highest, tax rate in the NHL.

There has to be some financial advantage to a player signing with the Habs i.e. Price signing becuase as a Free Agent he gets an extra year or $10 million if he signs with his original team.


Even if money were not the most important reason not to come to Montreal, the inherent pro francophone sociopolitical basis has to give outsiders at least some pause before they they sign on the dotted line.

Harry Wong is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:30 PM
  #62
DAChampion
Registered User
 
DAChampion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Country: United States
Posts: 16,153
vCash: 500
For Tavares, Bergevin should offer 7 years, 87.5 million.

It's an overpayment, but the Habs will flat out not compete for cups without an additional impact forward.

DAChampion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:37 PM
  #63
blarneylad
Registered User
 
blarneylad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,465
vCash: 584
Tavares is actually more likely to happen in Montreal than Toronto imo.

Only because Toronto is about to sign Matthews to a contract in the neighborhood of 8-10M, Marner likely 6-8M, Nylander 6-8M. That is their big three. If they need to go out and get anybody money wise it is a defenseman.

Tavares in Montreal is the missing piece. He instantly turns Montreal into a real contender. Pleks off the cap next year is 6M freed.

blarneylad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:40 PM
  #64
jaffy27
From Russia wth Pain
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orleans
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
For Tavares, Bergevin should offer 7 years, 87.5 million.

It's an overpayment, but the Habs will flat out not compete for cups without an additional impact forward.
Yup....with some core pieces locked up long term and at good cap hits, and young guys coming up on the cheap, it could work out for many years to come.

jaffy27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:47 PM
  #65
DAChampion
Registered User
 
DAChampion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Baltimore, Maryland
Country: United States
Posts: 16,153
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by blarneylad View Post
Tavares is actually more likely to happen in Montreal than Toronto imo.

Only because Toronto is about to sign Matthews to a contract in the neighborhood of 8-10M, Marner likely 6-8M, Nylander 6-8M. That is their big three. If they need to go out and get anybody money wise it is a defenseman.

Tavares in Montreal is the missing piece. He instantly turns Montreal into a real contender. Pleks off the cap next year is 6M freed.
Toronto is probably better off using their remaining cap space on stud dmen.

DAChampion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:54 PM
  #66
jaffy27
From Russia wth Pain
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Orleans
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,543
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DAChampion View Post
Toronto is probably better off using their remaining cap space on stud dmen.
Holy ****....I actually agreed on back to back posts of yours

jaffy27 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:57 PM
  #67
habshound247
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 573
vCash: 500
Rangers will be stiff competition especially with Nash coming off the books. But Lundqvist will be past his prime so having Price may be a serious advantage.

habshound247 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 02:59 PM
  #68
le_sean
Registered User
 
le_sean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ottawa
Country: Vatican City State
Posts: 19,346
vCash: 612
I certainly think it would be enticing to him. He'll know he'll get to play with a great set-up man in Drouin. He'll know both Price and Weber will be there for the duration of his contract. Makes sense if this cap space is spent on one year deals with the hope to send him a huge offer.

le_sean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 03:13 PM
  #69
the valiant effort
settle down, bud
 
the valiant effort's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 308
vCash: 500
Just want to point out that photo of Tavares, Weber, Crosby, and Marchand that keeps circulating the last few days is from last summer (at the latest).

the valiant effort is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 03:20 PM
  #70
BLONG7
Registered User
 
BLONG7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 18,109
vCash: 500
The Habs need bonafide #1 guy...............does JT like the Habs chances, if he adds himself to the equation, this is the question...not signing with the Isles as of July 1st has alot of people speculating what he is thinking...

BLONG7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 06:41 PM
  #71
HabsFather
Twitter: @HabsFather
 
HabsFather's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Montreal Forum
Country: Canada
Posts: 285
vCash: 500
Anyone know what his fave team growing up?

HabsFather is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 07:12 PM
  #72
Adam Michaels
Registered User
 
Adam Michaels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,066
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsFather View Post
Anyone know what his fave team growing up?
I don't know for sure, but I believe it's the Leafs.

Adam Michaels is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 09:36 PM
  #73
Lshap
Global Moderator
 
Lshap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 13,839
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabsFather View Post
Anyone know what his fave team growing up?
How often has this been a factor? Subban and Stamkos aren't with Toronto, Weber, Price and Gallagher aren't with the Canucks, Pacioretty isn't with New York, etc.

Lshap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 09:59 PM
  #74
JGRB
#EllerThugLife
 
JGRB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,661
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lshap View Post
How often has this been a factor? Subban and Stamkos aren't with Toronto, Weber, Price and Gallagher aren't with the Canucks, Pacioretty isn't with New York, etc.
Subban was a Habs fan, so was Nazem Kadri.

JGRB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-08-2017, 10:00 PM
  #75
Runner77
******************
 
Runner77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 19,311
vCash: 3345
Quote:
Originally Posted by the valiant effort View Post
Just want to point out that photo of Tavares, Weber, Crosby, and Marchand that keeps circulating the last few days is from last summer (at the latest).
No wonder it looked a little familiar. Thanks for pointing it out.

Runner77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:07 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. @2017 All Rights Reserved.