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07-11-2017, 10:19 AM
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Predicting The Western Conference 2017-18

PACIFIC

1)
2)
3)

CENTRAL

1)
2)
3)

Wildcard

1)
2)

Reasons and thoughts on why it will turn out this way.

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I was waiting for this. I will fill out and lost my thoughts later.

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PACIFIC

1) Edmonton
2) Calgary
3) Anahiem

Central

1) Dallas
2) Winnipeg
3) Minny

WILDCARD

1) Chicago
2)Nashville

REASONS;

- CHICAGO FALLS as they made cap moves this summer and are a weaker team. Big contracts and wear and tear on their best players catching up to them.
- Nashville has a Stanley Cup hang over and just squeaks in
- Dallas In 1st as they stumbled last year and Hitch will beat some sense into them. NILL had the best off season and he will win G.M of the year.
- Edmonton 1st ......... McDavid (enough said)
- Winnipeg 2nd as ......... (WE ARE DUE)....... breakout years from Laine/Ehlers/ and Schief....... Relatively injury free for once this year. Mason and Helly both give us league average goaltending.
- Calgary 2nd due to their D fence and Tkatchuk breaks out to be 3 rd best draft pick from 2016 draft.
- Anaheim........fires Carlye after a poor start and they play .720% hockey over the last half of the season powered by Miller in net.
- Minny...... because they play boring run of the mill game they allways do ....... they pass go snd collect $200.

OUT...... Colorado...... No surprise

Arizona...... much improved but come up short ...... 88 point season

San Jose ..... Goaltending problems ......as Jones lays an egg after signing big contract and old age creeps up on them.

L.A. ...... miss playoffs by one point after selling the farm at the trade deadline.....

ST. Lousy........ just because......

-Vancouver sucks and are 2nd last in the standings...... they lose the lottery .....draft 5th again ( Linden Pouts on T.V..)Vancouver riots....

-Las Vegas has good 1 st season sells hard at trade deadline and wins the 2nd spot in the lottery.


That's all folks....... Mark this response as done..... make your Vegas bets accordingly...... I will be accepting your praise when all this comes true in April 2018...

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MIN Out: Pominville, Haula, Scandella, Folin
In: Ennis, M.Foligno, Quincey

CHI Out: Hossa, Panarin, Kruger, Hjalmarsson, Rasmussen, Campbell(?), T.vanRiemsdyk, Darling
In: Saad, Sharp, Bouma, Wingels, C.Murphy, Rutta, A.Forsberg/Berube

STL Out: Lehtera, Perron, Yakupov, Reaves, Shattenkirk
In: B.Schenn, Sobotka, Sanford, Thorburn

NSH Out: C.Wilson, Neal, Fisher(?), Ribeiro
In: Bonino, Hartnell, Emelin

WPG Out: Burmistrov, Stafford, Thorburn, Stuart, Postma, Pavelec
In: Kulikov, Mason

DAL Out: Eaves, Hudler, Hemsky, Sharp, Eakin, Oduya, Jo.Benn, Korpikoski, Niemi
In: Radulov, Hanzal, Janmark-Nylen, Pitlick, Methot, Bishop

COL Out: Iginla, Grigorenko, Mitchell, R.Bourque, Tyutin, Wiercioch, Pickard
In: C.Wilson, Yakupov, Bernier

ANA Out: Thompson, Bernier
In: Eaves, D.Grant, R.Miller

EDM Out: Eberle, B.Pouliot, Lander, Pitlick, Hendricks, Davidson
In: R.Strome, J.Jokinen, Auvitu

SJS Out: Marleau, Nieto, Wingels, Haley, Schlemko
In: Hansen

CGY Out: Bouma, Chiasson, D.Wideman, Engelland, Jokipakka, Elliott, C.Johnson
In: Lazar, Hamonic, Mi.Stone, M.Smith, Lack

LAK Out: King, Setoguchi, McNabb, Gilbert, Budaj
In: Cammalleri, Folin, Kuemper

ARI Out: Hanzal, Doan, Vrbata, Holland, Jooris, R.White, C.Murphy, Mi.Stone, DeAngelo, M.Smith
In: Stepan, Cousins, Hjalmarsson, Clendening, Raanta

VAN Out: Burrows, Hansen, Sbisa, Larsen, Tryamkin, R.Miller
In: Gagner, Burmistrov, DelZotto, Wiercioch, Nilsson

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PACIFIC

1)Edmonton
2)San Jose
3)Calgary

CENTRAL

1)Minnesota
2)Nashville
3)Dallas

Wildcard

1)Winnipeg
2)St Louis

Tougher than I thought. I think Edmonton 1st was the easiest pick. After that gets pretty difficult. San Jose Edmonton series was one of the best of the playoffs. There's still plenty of talent on the sharks. The hardest decision was bumping Anaheim out of the playoffs, but I think their aging line up finally catches up with them and Calgary has made some pretty impressive strides.

The Central Division is kind of a crap shoot.
Minnesota was on such a roll last season and Ennis should help them, so I gave them first place. Nashville, after such an impressive run in the playoffs and adding Hartnell and Bonino should help their scoring. Dallas kind of scares me with all the moves they made at free agency, especially adding Radulof. With Hitchcock at the helm, they should do well. Hardest thing was bumping Chicago out.

Winnipeg and St Louis make the wild card spots.


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MIN Out: Pominville, Haula, Scandella, Folin
In: Ennis, M.Foligno, Quincey

CHI Out: Hossa, Panarin, Kruger, Hjalmarsson, Rasmussen, Campbell(?), T.vanRiemsdyk, Darling
In: Saad, Sharp, Bouma, Wingels, C.Murphy, Rutta, A.Forsberg/Berube

STL Out: Lehtera, Perron, Yakupov, Reaves, Shattenkirk
In: B.Schenn, Sobotka, Sanford, Thorburn

NSH Out: C.Wilson, Neal, Fisher(?), Ribeiro
In: Bonino, Hartnell, Emelin

WPG Out: Burmistrov, Stafford, Thorburn, Stuart, Postma, Pavelec
In: Kulikov, Mason

DAL Out: Eaves, Hudler, Hemsky, Sharp, Eakin, Oduya, Jo.Benn, Korpikoski, Niemi
In: Radulov, Hanzal, Janmark-Nylen, Pitlick, Methot, Bishop

COL Out: Iginla, Grigorenko, Mitchell, R.Bourque, Tyutin, Wiercioch, Pickard
In: C.Wilson, Yakupov, Bernier

ANA Out: Thompson, Bernier
In: Eaves, D.Grant, R.Miller

EDM Out: Eberle, B.Pouliot, Lander, Pitlick, Hendricks, Davidson
In: R.Strome, J.Jokinen, Auvitu

SJS Out: Marleau, Nieto, Wingels, Haley, Schlemko
In: Hansen

CGY Out: Bouma, Chiasson, D.Wideman, Engelland, Jokipakka, Elliott, C.Johnson
In: Lazar, Hamonic, Mi.Stone, M.Smith, Lack

LAK Out: King, Setoguchi, McNabb, Gilbert, Budaj
In: Cammalleri, Folin, Kuemper

ARI Out: Hanzal, Doan, Vrbata, Holland, Jooris, R.White, C.Murphy, Mi.Stone, DeAngelo, M.Smith
In: Stepan, Cousins, Hjalmarsson, Clendening, Raanta

VAN Out: Burrows, Hansen, Sbisa, Larsen, Tryamkin, R.Miller
In: Gagner, Burmistrov, DelZotto, Wiercioch, Nilsson
LOL I love how our outs are our worst 6 players!

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07-11-2017, 11:39 AM
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Im not sold on Calgary being top two in their division. Smith is not that great.

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Im not sold on Calgary being top two in their division. Smith is not that great.
I think the Pacific is pretty weak this year. 1 of Smith, Lack has to play well for the Flames but I think their goaltending will be good enough.

Edm
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Calgary
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Anaheim
everybody else in a dog fight.

The Central is back to getting 5 teams in.

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Pacific:

1) Edmonton
2) Anaheim
3) Calgary

Edmonton is a no brainer. Calgary's netminding is still questionable, but their top four is among the best in the league. I see this as Anaheims last gasp so to speak. If they dont win it this year...its time to retool a bit. They have an old core that is complimented by some good young pieces on D...but I see this asthe begininng of the end for them.

Central

1) Dallas
2) Nashville
3) Winnipeg

We got better in the D and G department, and after that the strength of our forward core shoukd be enough.

Dallas is the most improved team imo and could challenge for the cup.

Nashville is still a strong team. The only piece that they lost and didnt replace was Neal.

Wild Card:

1) San Jose
2) Chicago

Chicago will probably get bounced easily in the first round, and will only squeak into the post season on the backs of Keith, Kane, Seabrook, Crawford and Toews.

San Jose still has enough talent to get into the post season and is a stronger team than Minny or St Louis.

The misses:

Kings, St Louis, Minnesota, Arizona, Vegas, Vancouver, Colorado.

Minny and St Louis got quite a bit weaker over the off season. Cant see them making it this year.

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I think the Pacific is pretty weak this year. 1 of Smith, Lack has to play well for the Flames but I think their goaltending will be good enough.

Edm
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Calgary
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Anaheim
everybody else in a dog fight.

The Central is back to getting 5 teams in.
I would think that San Jose would be better then Min or StL.

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PACIFIC

1) Edmonton
2) Anaheim
3) Calgary

CENTRAL

1) Nashville
2) Dallas
3) Minnesota

Wildcard

1) San Jose
2) Winnipeg

Reasons and thoughts on why it will turn out this way.

Jets look to have improved a lot just by "addition by subtraction" and the addition of league average goaltending.

Colorado, St Louis, Vancouver, and LA all look to be weak sauce. For me, Chicago and Vegas are huge unknowns. Arizona and Chicago may be dark horses; Coach Q may be able to get the team to "rise above" and Arizona, with Tocchet named as the new head coach may surprise us all.

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I would think that San Jose would be better then Min or StL.
I think age catches up to SJS and they don't have the depth. They have only 10 F's and 6 D signed right now and their prospect pool won't fill in the rest. Those 16 already include some weak spots. They need Ward, Thornton and Pavelski to play like they are 5-10 years younger than they are and Boedker to rebound strongly. JMO but I think their window has closed.

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PACIFIC

1) Anaheim - They still have the best defense in the Pacific and a top 3 one league wide. Couple that with solid goaltending and an aging but still solid forward core and it should be enough to put them in top spot.

2) Edmonton - They have an elite top line lead by McJesus and Talbot has proven to be a quality number 1. They also boast a solid all around d core but their lack of quality depth upfront holds them back from taking the top spot.

3) LA - They have been among the elite of the league in shot metrics the last number of years and I feel their goal totals this year align with the underlying numbers which puts them in.

CENTRAL

1) Minnesota - They still have a solid all around roster with an elite goalie and an overachieving regular season coach. This will enable them to once again overachieve in the first season.

2)Nashville - They boast the number 1 defense core in the league and have a dangerous top line. Questionable forward depth and the fact that you don't seem to know what you will get with Rinne sees them finish just ahead of WPG in the central

3) Winnipeg - I feel that Mason will give the team league average or better goaltending. Couple this with a return to the mean injury wise and an incredibly talented line up should have them contending for the division. They end up third largely attributed to the fact that I don't believe Maurice will do enough to fix the teams discipline and special teams.

Wildcard

1) Dallas - Should have a dynamic top line and Bishop will provide good enough goaltending to get them in. I however feel they have inferior depth on both offense and defense than the teams in the central above them which keeps them out of the top 3.

2) Calgary - Just edges out St. Louis based on how weak their division is. I think the Flames have a good defense but I'm not sold on their forwards or on Smith to make them a legit contending team.

The fallers:

1) San Jose: I fear father time catches up with them next season. I don't see guys like Thornton being able to compete with the young stars anymore and I doubt Burns replicates his season last year. I'm also not sold on Jones as an upper echelon goalie.

2) Chicago - They destroyed their defense and Keith at his age won't be able to compensate. Crawford also won't be enough this year to cover for their clear depletion of depth.

3) St. Louis - May not have made it outside of the new coach bump last season. They lack the quality and quantity down the middle of the rest of the division. Their defense also took a major hit. I don't think they have enough elite pieces and depth to make it back.

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Pacific
  1. Edmonton
  2. Anahiem
  3. San Jose

Central
  1. Dallas
  2. Nashville
  3. Winnipeg

WildCard
  1. Minny
  2. Calgary

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Pacific

Edmonton
Anahiem
Calgary


Central

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Colorado out. Everybody else too close to call. So I will go with:
Winnipeg - why not?
Dallas
Nashville



WildCard

Minny
Chicago

That leaves St Louis out too. They will really miss Reaves.

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Pacific

Anaheim
Edmonton
LAK

Central

Winnipeg
Dallas
St Louis

Wild Card

Nashville
Vegas

Playoffs

Anaheim Nashville
Edmonton LAK

Winnipeg Vegas
Dallas St Louis

Chicago wins the draft lottery and drafts Dahlin

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Pacific

Anaheim
Edmonton
LAK

Central

Winnipeg
Dallas
St Louis

Wild Card

Nashville
Vegas

Playoffs

Anaheim Nashville
Edmonton LAK

Winnipeg Vegas
Dallas St Louis

Chicago wins the draft lottery and drafts Dahlin
Why is Vegas in a playoff position?

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Why is Vegas in a playoff position?
Because everybody else isn't?

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1. Chicago: I think Schmaltz/Hartman will breakout for them obviously risks with no Darling behind Crawford, losing hammer, and age+attrition. But cant bet against kane, toews, keith and Q. they are similar to the patriots in the nfl
2. St Louis: Allen was unreal down the stretch (938 from feb 2-end of season). Schenn is a great addition imo, Lehtera is addition by subtraction and Dunn/Schmaltz/Barbashev will be contributors as young players.
3. Winnipeg: Team only had 67 points at game 71 last year. Going 10-2 down the stretch put lipstick on a pig. hopefully the pk/pp is sorted, mason provides 920 goaltending and everyone is healthy.
Pacific:
1. Anaheim: no real subtractions. Eaves will be there all year, vatanen will be out. Montour continues to emerge. Gibson/Miller is a great 1-2 imo
2. Edmonton: Mcjesus nuff said. talbot doesnt play 73 games again though
3. Calgary: smith put up good #s in a terribad situation in arizona. beefed up the dcore, still think they need some scoring

WC
1. Dallas: hitch, bishop, methot will help the team immensely. methot helps klingberg be more dynamic offesnively. faksa continues to progress and adding hanzal and rads obviously bolsters there top 6, especially if hanzal produces at similar rate he did in Minni.
2. Minni: they lost a 5th dman and a 4th line C, ennis could possibly replace pominvilles production, no other real downgrades imo.

Minni/dallas/wpg are all within 4-6 pts of each other


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Pacific:
Edmonton
Anaheim
San Jose

Central:
Nashville
Dallas
St.Louis

WC:
Winnipeg
Chicago

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Had no idea Edmonton was a no brainer for 1st in pacific


I honestly feel they will regress this year. Thought they over performed last year, personally (slightly...they deserved to be in playoffs but they made it much further than I thought they would), despite McDavid


I hope they fall anyways

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PACIFIC

1) Anaheim
2) Edmonton
3) Calgary

CENTRAL

1) Nashville
2) St. Louis
3) Winnipeg

Wildcard

1) Chicago
2) San Jose

Dallas on the outside. I see it getting real dysfunctional with Seguin and Radulov and shut it down Hitch as the coach.

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1) Anaheim
2) Edmonton
3) LA

CENTRAL

1) Dallas
2) Minnesota
3) Chicago

Wildcard

1) St Louis
2) Calgary

Yes, that's right. Your resident pessimist is back and being the first to predict the Jets miss the playoffs. I have no rationale for my picks other than the alcohol is starting to have an effect and I feel... inspired. But I gotta say, I would laugh my ass off if AC is right and Vegas makes the playoffs their first year. Wouldn't that be a kick in the old Chevy nut sack!

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PACIFIC

1) Anaheim
2) Edmonton
3) LA

CENTRAL

1) Dallas
2) Minnesota
3) Chicago

Wildcard

1) St Louis
2) Calgary

Yes, that's right. Your resident pessimist is back and being the first to predict the Jets miss the playoffs. I have no rationale for my picks other than the alcohol is starting to have an effect and I feel... inspired. But I gotta say, I would laugh my ass off if AC is right and Vegas makes the playoffs their first year. Wouldn't that be a kick in the old Chevy nut sack!
If LV was anywhere near the playoffs come the TD you still see a whole sale sell off. McPhee has designed his team to take advantage of high picks and lots of extra picks. Finishing in the fuzzy middle doesn't seem to be part of the plan.

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Pacific

1. Edmonton
The Oil will sit atop the Pacific standings for the first time in a loooong time. McDavid challenges for the Ross and Hart again if healthy. Puljujarvi also makes the jump and challenges for the Calder.

2. Anaheim
The Ducks are still poised to be a playoff team and finish just below Edmonton. Perry continues to decline but the Ducks has some decent young kids that can score, some vets who know how to get into the playoffs, a very very good top 4 and Gibson/Miller provide a stable goaltending core to keep them on track all season.

3. Los Angeles
The Kings have a bounceback season. Kopitar has a big year and Camellari finds a scoring touch the Kings needed potting 30+.

Central

1. Dallas
Benn and Seguin find crazy good chemistry with Radulov and are challengers with McDavid for the Ross and may even challenge for the Rocket throughout most of the season if not winning. The Stars often struggling defensive core finds it's game in the young guns (Klingberg, Honka, Lindell) and Bishop provides the stable goaltending they needed. The Stars finally align and they take the Western Conference, even challenging for the Presidents Trophy.

2. Minnesota
The aging core of the Wild continue to impress. The scoring depth coupled with Dubnyk and the defensive style of play the Wild have become known for get them into the playoffs again. Minnesota get the Jets in the first round. Could be a very offensive affair.

3. Winnipeg
Mason has a big year for the Jets and they glide into the playoffs on the wings of their young core who really know how to put the puck in the net.

Wild Cards

1. Calgary
Calgary's kids have a solid season putting the puck in the net as they are a top 5 offence. But they still have goaltending issues which get them into the playoffs with a lot of question marks. They face Edmonton in the first round sparking a huge Battle of Alberta 1st round opener.

2. St. Louis
The Blues barely make the playoffs edging out Chicago in their final game. Tarasenko has a big year as well, challenging for the Rocket. Blues draw Dallas in the first round. Dallas advances with relative ease.

Rest of the West

9. Chicago
The Hawks offseason moves prove to be to much for them to handle this time. They miss the playoffs by losing their last game of the season.

10. Nashville
Rinne has a bit of a regression and the top defence in the league can't get past it after their historic run to the finals.

11. San Jose
The Sharks have a sharp decline with the rising of the rest of the Pacific it proves to be to much.

12. Arizona
They take some steps forward but need more time to develop the kids.

13. Vancouver
All in for Dahlin.

14. Colorado
Yakupov still isn't good.

15. Vegas
Nope.

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