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07-12-2017, 08:34 AM
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Come on everyone, we need to help MB with potential trades. Other GMs keep hanging up on him when he presents them with his Playstation moves..

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ahhhh yes...fun!!! lol

still say MB is hunting for a centre... but Sakic is out of touch....

would love him to land Eric Staal, seems to be a centre that we can use....and might be available, as not many centres are.

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Need two teams to make a trade.

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Need two teams to make a trade.
I dont think MB could even make a trade with MT. The two of them would keep passing notes back and forth for the better part of a year.

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We should trade for a centre or a LD. Thoughts???

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We should trade for a centre or a LD. Thoughts???

The Habs might have to hope that long-term Galchenyuk is their 1C and Danault their 2/3C, and look to the trade market to acquire a #2C who is overpaid but whose salary fits within the Habs' cap space right now and who could slide to #3 over time.

Jordan Staal (28) at $6M x 6?
Maybe, but what would CAR want back?

Claude Giroux (29) at $8.275M x 5?
Could live with cap hit short-term but is this too many years for a guy with sliding production? Would Philly retain a bit?

Jeff Carter (32) at $5.875M x 5?
Possible. The return required is key.

Henrik Zetterberg (36) at $6.083M x 4?
Is Detroit ready to rebuild? If so, this could be interesting out of left field.
Could the Habs offer enough young assets without crippling the team?

Alex Killorn (27) at $4.45M x 6?
Is he a real #2C?

Tyler Bozak (31) at $4.25M x 1?
Possible short-term solution, if obtainable cheap

Nick Foligno (29) at $5.5M x 5?
I see him as a #2C, but is he untouchable in CBJ?

Brandon Dubinsky (31) at $5.85M x 5?
Will he remain a 40 point guy? Or is that too much term?
Could he be had without sacrificing a core piece? Intriguing.

Travis Zajac (32) at $5.75M x 4?
Some term risk, but perhaps the right type of target in terms of high-ish cap hit therefore low cost to acquire.

Adam Henrique (27) at $4.0M x 2?
NJ would probably want young cost-controlled assets. Feasibility depends on whether NJ sees themselves re-signing him in 2 years.

Artem Anisimov (29) at $4.55M x 4?
Would Chicago even consider moving what might be their 2C for the next few years?

Matt Duchene (26) at $6.0M x 2?
Lots written about this one, not sure if Colorado is truly motivated to deal.
And player's production lately is scary.

Jason Spezza (34) at $7.5M x 2?
Dallas has other productive Cs now, maybe they try to dump salary?

Paul Stastny (31) at $7.0M x 1?
Overpaid now, if STL feels they can't re-sign him, they might trade for futures

Mathieu Perreault (29) at $4.125M x 4?
Maybe brings enough value for his contract that WPG not interested in moving him

Mikael Backlund (28) at 3.575M x 1?
If Calgary is committed to Sam Bennett, Backlund might be expendable.
Otherwise Habs could try to pry Bennett free so that CGY is not forced to pay him big bucks.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (24) at $6.0M x 4
Again, much written.
Could be a good target given his 43 points last year and future projected role.

Logan Couture (28) at $6.0M x 2
Does SJ seem him as overpaid and not likely to re-sign in 2 years.
If so, they might consider offers, but I think they intend to keep him.

Henrik Sedin (36) at $7.0M x 1
Is Vancouver ready to cut ties for future assets?
Can Montreal handle both Sedins under the cap?
If Plekanec goes the other way, why should Vancouver do this?
I doubt a fit is here.

Summary: There are some possibilities here. The GM needs to kick every tire to see what might be doable. His job may be at stake. Geoff Molson will probably not wait too much longer without results.

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Pretty good work there. Thanks. The Habs should have options, now it's getting it done the problem.

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The Habs might have to hope that long-term Galchenyuk is their 1C and Danault their 2/3C, and look to the trade market to acquire a #2C who is overpaid but whose salary fits within the Habs' cap space right now and who could slide to #3 over time.

Jordan Staal (28) at $6M x 6?
Maybe, but what would CAR want back?

Claude Giroux (29) at $8.275M x 5?
Could live with cap hit short-term but is this too many years for a guy with sliding production? Would Philly retain a bit?

Jeff Carter (32) at $5.875M x 5?
Possible. The return required is key.

Henrik Zetterberg (36) at $6.083M x 4?
Is Detroit ready to rebuild? If so, this could be interesting out of left field.
Could the Habs offer enough young assets without crippling the team?

Alex Killorn (27) at $4.45M x 6?
Is he a real #2C?

Tyler Bozak (31) at $4.25M x 1?
Possible short-term solution, if obtainable cheap

Nick Foligno (29) at $5.5M x 5?
I see him as a #2C, but is he untouchable in CBJ?

Brandon Dubinsky (31) at $5.85M x 5?
Will he remain a 40 point guy? Or is that too much term?
Could he be had without sacrificing a core piece? Intriguing.

Travis Zajac (32) at $5.75M x 4?
Some term risk, but perhaps the right type of target in terms of high-ish cap hit therefore low cost to acquire.

Adam Henrique (27) at $4.0M x 2?
NJ would probably want young cost-controlled assets. Feasibility depends on whether NJ sees themselves re-signing him in 2 years.

Artem Anisimov (29) at $4.55M x 4?
Would Chicago even consider moving what might be their 2C for the next few years?

Matt Duchene (26) at $6.0M x 2?
Lots written about this one, not sure if Colorado is truly motivated to deal.
And player's production lately is scary.

Jason Spezza (34) at $7.5M x 2?
Dallas has other productive Cs now, maybe they try to dump salary?

Paul Stastny (31) at $7.0M x 1?
Overpaid now, if STL feels they can't re-sign him, they might trade for futures

Mathieu Perreault (29) at $4.125M x 4?
Maybe brings enough value for his contract that WPG not interested in moving him

Mikael Backlund (28) at 3.575M x 1?
If Calgary is committed to Sam Bennett, Backlund might be expendable.
Otherwise Habs could try to pry Bennett free so that CGY is not forced to pay him big bucks.

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins (24) at $6.0M x 4
Again, much written.
Could be a good target given his 43 points last year and future projected role.

Logan Couture (28) at $6.0M x 2
Does SJ seem him as overpaid and not likely to re-sign in 2 years.
If so, they might consider offers, but I think they intend to keep him.

Henrik Sedin (36) at $7.0M x 1
Is Vancouver ready to cut ties for future assets?
Can Montreal handle both Sedins under the cap?
If Plekanec goes the other way, why should Vancouver do this?
I doubt a fit is here.

Summary: There are some possibilities here. The GM needs to kick every tire to see what might be doable. His job may be at stake. Geoff Molson will probably not wait too much longer without results.
no D??

Great list coach! In all seriousness, every one of those centres would be an upgrade over ours, safe for maybe Perreault. Too bad it's impossible to acquire a cantre.

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To Edmonton: Tomas Plekanec, Jacob De La Rose and a 1st round pick
To Montreal: Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and a 4th round pick

REASONING: The reasoning behind it for the Habs is obvious, slides in as the projected number 1 center, perfectly suited for our deep set of wingers. Oilers get Plekanec to serve as a short term replacement for RNH, along with cost clearing cap space for next year when McDavid and Draisaitl's extensions kick in. Along with Pleky Oilers get a solid two-way prospect and a 1st round pick.

Habs Lineup:

Pacioretty - Nugent-Hopkins - Gallagher

Drouin - Galchenyuk - Shaw

Lehkonen - Danault - Hemsky

Hudon - McCarron - Byron


Markov - Weber

Alzner - Petry

Schlemko - Benn

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The majority of those guys are not available IMO.

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Bergevin should ask Sweeney to go to a bar tonight. Then get him drunk enough to agree to a Plekanec for Bergeron trade.

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Tyler Bozak and Michael Backlund are 2 targets the Habs should look at.

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Tyler Bozak and Michael Backlund are 2 targets the Habs should look at.
Next off season yes or maybe at the trade deadline.

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Ek touting a Myers to Habs trade. Just what we need, another RHD!


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Would you guys do something involving Rask for Patch?
Some picks and/or prospects to even it out.

They could use a top LW to compliment Skinner. They would still have Staal, Teuvo, Lindholm & Kruger down the middle.

He's been on a decent rise and has a 4m caphit for 5 more years. 6'2 - 200lbs

18/19
Drouin - Rask - Gally
Lehks - Galch - Shaw
Byron - Danault - Mac


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Would you guys do something involving Rask for Patch?
Some picks and/or prospects to even it out.

They could use a top LW to compliment Skinner

He's been on a decent rise and has a 4m caphit for 5 more years. 6'2 - 200lbs

18/19
Drouin - Rask - Gally
Lehks - Galch - Shaw
Byron - Danault - Mac
The degree that Paciortetty is underrated by this teams fanbase and other players overrated, will never cease to amaze me.

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The degree that Paciortetty is underrated by this teams fanbase and other players overrated, will never cease to amaze me.
Believe me, I'm a big fan. This is simply gauging interest on the basis of a deal involving these 2 players. Clearly some added value would be required.

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The degree that Paciortetty is underrated by this teams fanbase and other players overrated, will never cease to amaze me.
You will change your narrative when Pacioretty need a new contract in two years and get at least 7x7. He won't be underrated nor underpaid anymore.

The big thing about a Rask 4 Pacioretty deal is the $$$ and the position. We're deep on the wings and thin at center. You get a pretty good centre on an amazing deal for 5 years. That extend our window, IMO.

Need a + from Carolina maybe

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Believe me, I'm a big fan. This is simply gauging interest on the basis of a deal involving these 2 players. Clearly some added value would be required.
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You will change your narrative when Pacioretty need a new contract in two years and get at least 7x7. He won't be underrated nor underpaid anymore.

The big thing about a Rask 4 Pacioretty deal is the $$$ and the position. We're deep on the wings and thin at center. You get a pretty good centre on an amazing deal for 5 years. That extend our window, IMO.

Need a + from Carolina maybe
Consistent 30+ goal scorers are extremely rare in this league. Like he's a top 5 in the league. If you're worried about the contract, it's because he's a proven goal scorer in a league where goals are hard to come by and this team desperately needs more of.

Not saying he's not tradable but the value coming back in most of these trades proposals is pitiful.

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The degree that Paciortetty is underrated by this teams fanbase and other players overrated, will never cease to amaze me.
I'll be honest, I find his scoring is largely against under performing teams. Last year alone he only had 11 goals against playoff teams. It also showed in the playoff.

I understand the amount of factors that go into this degree of criticism, however I also see a quality player that may fetch a good return. I would love to see him get that #1C and see what happens, but if anyone is worth that much quality in the eyes of other NHL GMs, he may be that piece. With Drouin, Galchenyuk and Lehkonen, I think the left side is well taken care of.

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I'll be honest, I find his scoring is largely against under performing teams. Last year alone he only had 11 goals against playoff teams. It also showed in the playoff.

I understand the amount of factors that go into this degree of criticism, however I also see a quality player that may fetch a good return. I would love to see him get that #1C and see what happens, but if anyone is worth that much quality in the eyes of other NHL GMs, he may be that piece. With Drouin, Galchenyuk and Lehkonen, I think the left side is well taken care of.
I think you'll find that most players tend to score more against worse teams.

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Would you guys do something involving Rask for Patch?
Some picks and/or prospects to even it out.

They could use a top LW to compliment Skinner. They would still have Staal, Teuvo, Lindholm & Kruger down the middle.

He's been on a decent rise and has a 4m caphit for 5 more years. 6'2 - 200lbs
I think Rask is more valuable to Carolina than Staal.

I would package futures and cheap assets for Staal, and move Patches for Leddy.

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I think Rask is more valuable to Carolina than Staal.

I would package futures and cheap assets for Staal, and move Patches for Leddy.
Neither of those things are happening.

- Staal would cost more than just futures, their on the cusp of making some noise.
- Leddy is their best D now and likely not going anywhere

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