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Edmonton Oilers Prospect Rankings: #2

View Poll Results: Who is Edmonton Oilers top prospect?
LD Caleb Jones, Portland Winterhawks (WHL) 26 13.76%
RD Ethan Bear, Seattle Thunderbirds (WHL) 31 16.40%
C/LW Kailer Yamamoto, Spokane Chiefs (WHL) 109 57.67%
LW Tyler Benson, Vancouver Giants (WHL) 15 7.94%
LD Dmitri Samorukov, Guelph Storm (OHL) 0 0%
LD Markus Niemelainen, Saginaw Spirit (OHL) 1 0.53%
G Stuart Skinner, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL) 0 0%
G Dylan Wells, Peterborough Petes (OHL) 0 0%
G Nick Ellis, Bakersfield Condors (AHL) 0 0%
LD Ziyat Paigin, Bakersfield Condors (AHL) 4 2.12%
LD Matthew Cairns, Powell River Kings (BCHL) 0 0%
RD Filip Berglund, Skellefta AIK (SHL) 0 0%
RW Ostap Safin, HC Sparta Praha (Extraliga) 0 0%
RW Kirill Maksimov, Niagara IceDogs (OHL) 1 0.53%
RD Ryan Mantha, Bakersfield Condors (AHL) 1 0.53%
C Joe Gambardella, Bakersfield Condors (AHL) 1 0.53%
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07-13-2017, 12:08 AM
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The answer to this is Yamamoto, although there is some concerns about his size, he is arguably one of the most skilled guys of this years draft that dropped to 22. The fact the someone so small actually got drafted in the first round compared to most smaller skilled guys speaks for itself with how much potential he has

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Going to focus more on what I expect in the next 2/3 years as beyond that it's always a bit of a crapshoot.

Puljujarvi still the cream of the crop

Bear/Jones/Paigin all score close together at this point. It will be interesting to see who pulls away this season in Bakersfield.

Benson and Yamamoto highlight the forward class behind Puljujarvi, though it's hard to rank them against the 3 defencemen.

Mantha, Khaira, Gambardella, and Wells round out the rest of my top 10.

Basically:
Puljujarvi
Jones/Bear/Paigin/Yamamoto
Benson
Manta/Gambardella/Khaira/Wells

As for this poll, the likely correct answer is Yamamoto, though I'll give a shout out to Paigin, what he did in Sochi and in an actual pro-league has him above the junior success of the others.


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Surprised that Bear has more votes than Jones, and that the gap between Yamamoto and the next guy is so big.

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Surprised that Bear has more votes than Jones, and that the gap between Yamamoto and the next guy is so big.

Why's that? Bear won WHL defenseman of the year over Jones, them being neck and neck makes sense to me.

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I know Yamamoto is winning this but I had to vote Bear. With his 28 goal 70 point season and the Oilers have a need for a RHD that can put up points, I feel he's our 2nd best prospect atm. I guess I'll be voting for him again in the next round.

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13 people voted for Tyler Benson? Good grief.

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Why's that? Bear won WHL defenseman of the year over Jones, them being neck and neck makes sense to me.
And Jones won a gold medal at the world juniors; much tougher competition than any whl or chl team.

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13 people voted for Tyler Benson? Good grief.
If he can put his injury issues behind him Benson may well be worthy of the #2 slot. The guy has legitimate first round talent. And unlike Yamamoto, Benson has the size to go with it. Both players have great attitudes and are fierce competitors.

Of course we need to see him healthy before expecting much.

For me all of Bear, Jones, Benson and Yamamto have the potential to be impact players but none are sure things. The Oilers actually have a fair number of players that could step in and contribute down the line. Development is going to be crucial over the next few years.

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13 people voted for Tyler Benson? Good grief.
Why good grief?

Elaborate us who did vote him.....

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Why's that? Bear won WHL defenseman of the year over Jones, them being neck and neck makes sense to me.
Bear has some big holes in his game that Jones just doesn't have and which will really limit him/his effectiveness at the pro level. Bear is not a good skater and he's bad defensively. I could see him struggle at the AHL level next year whereas Jones has a real shot of making the NHL out of camp and even if he doesn't he should have a fairly seemless transition to the pro game (AHL). Skating will be a huge limitation for Bear I think. It's a fast game these days and I don't think he can keep up.

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I'm high on Ethan Bear given how good he was in the playoffs for Seattle. Not the tallest guy, but built with a lot of muscle and a physical edge to his game. I think he could surprise us in the next couple years as he starts his professional career.

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There are many who are expecting Yamamoto to get a 9 game look this year. Him being a shiny new toy and dominating the camp in Jasper could provide Puljujarvi some competition especially considering the snub Pulju got at the Worlds.
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Really? People do realize it's quite rare for anyone outside the top 5 to get this, let alone a guy taking late in the first round that is so damn tiny.
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I think years of drafting top 5 has warped some people's sensibilities as to what's normal.
Agreed. Yamamoto will get a good, long training camp to show what he's got. Unless he completely blows everyone's expectations out of the water, he won't get 9 games, nor should he. He's probably 2 or 3 years away at the earliest. Another year in junior, and then at least one in the AHL.

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Bear has some big holes in his game that Jones just doesn't have and which will really limit him/his effectiveness at the pro level. Bear is not a good skater and he's bad defensively. I could see him struggle at the AHL level next year whereas Jones has a real shot of making the NHL out of camp and even if he doesn't he should have a fairly seemless transition to the pro game (AHL). Skating will be a huge limitation for Bear I think. It's a fast game these days and I don't think he can keep up.
No he doesn't. We don't have room for him, and Chiarelli doesn't bring up rookies before they are ready. He'll get at least a partial year in the AHL. I would expect that he could be in the AHL for 2 years before locking down a full time spot.

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And Jones won a gold medal at the world juniors; much tougher competition than any whl or chl team.
Gold medals are team sports. Best d-man is best d-man.

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No he doesn't. We don't have room for him, and Chiarelli doesn't bring up rookies before they are ready. He'll get at least a partial year in the AHL. I would expect that he could be in the AHL for 2 years before locking down a full time spot.
So in one post above this one you say that Yamamoto will get a long look, and then here you say that Chiarelli doesn't bring up rookies before they are ready? Well, Jones is a hell of a lot more ready than Yamamoto is. And how do we not have room with Sekera out? All he has to do is beat out Auvitu for the 3rd pairing LD spot, which certainly isn't inconceivable. Unless we play on having Gryba as a regular, that is, which I'd rather not see.

Klefbom-Russell
Nurse-Larsson
Auvitu/Jones-Benning

is easily the best D configuration the way I see it. Rather not see Nurse-Gryba as a 3rd pair.

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Hate to nit pick at the list, as Zaddy you've already gotten your fair share regarding Pulju.

But shouldn't Slepyshev and Khaira be here as well if 65 games is the HFboards cut off. Slepy is at 64 so I get leaving him off. Khaira has only played 25 games though.

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Hate to nit pick at the list, as Zaddy you've already gotten your fair share regarding Pulju.

But shouldn't Slepyshev and Khaira be here as well if 65 games is the HFboards cut off. Slepy is at 64 so I get leaving him off. Khaira has only played 25 games though.
Yea, I should've put Khaira on there, but didn't think of him until after I had created the poll so...still, doubt he would be winning this poll anyway. Mozes can put him in the next poll.

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Hate to nit pick at the list, as Zaddy you've already gotten your fair share regarding Pulju.

But shouldn't Slepyshev and Khaira be here as well if 65 games is the HFboards cut off. Slepy is at 64 so I get leaving him off. Khaira has only played 25 games though.
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Yea, I should've put Khaira on there, but didn't think of him until after I had created the poll so...still, doubt he would be winning this poll anyway. Mozes can put him in the next poll.
I have the list of eligibles ready. Will post everything when this poll is finished.

Khaira will be included, Slepy will not.

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No he doesn't. We don't have room for him, and Chiarelli doesn't bring up rookies before they are ready. He'll get at least a partial year in the AHL. I would expect that he could be in the AHL for 2 years before locking down a full time spot.
Chia proved last year that he'll put the best roster out there no matter if they're rookies or not. Having Benning in the opening night roster and sending Fayne to Bakersfield proved that. If Jones comes in and has a killer camp he'll have a shot to make the team.

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Gold medals are team sports. Best d-man is best d-man.
That team wouldn't win a gold medal without Jones heavy contribution. Bear couldn't even make it on a Canadian team with a weaker back end.

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Gold medals are team sports. Best d-man is best d-man.
Haha and he wasn't even the best d-man on his team.

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I'm really surprised that so few people voted for Bear.
I'm not even ready to take Yamamoto over Jones.

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I'm really surprised that so few people voted for Bear.
I'm not even ready to take Yamamoto over Jones.
Why? Because he's small?

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I'm really surprised that so few people voted for Bear.
I'm not even ready to take Yamamoto over Jones.
I'm on the other end. No clue why people voted Bear this early.

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13 people voted for Tyler Benson? Good grief.
As one of the guys who voted for him, I would like to offer my pov.

Benson has the tools to be an effective forward on any line. Assuming his injuries are behind him, he is pretty much a lock to have a long career. He is the smartest prospect we have, highly skilled, and maybe the best defensive forward.

Every other prospect has question marks as well but none offer the complete package of Benson.

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