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Winnipeg Jets Top 20 Prospects 2017 - #8 tiebreaker

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Jansen Harkins 67 51.94%
Dylan Samberg 62 48.06%
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Winnipeg Jets Top 20 Prospects 2017 - #8 tiebreaker

Another tiebreaker!

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Bloody hell. Accidentally voted for Harkins.

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Bloody hell. Accidentally voted for Harkins.
You're a mod. Just start over. I mean, if Harkins wins by one vote, that's going to be a pretty big asterisk next to this one.

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You're a mod. Just start over.
Nah, it's all good. If there's a tie here, tiebreaker goes to Samberg.

Damn butterfly ballot.

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Wouldn't it be great if Harkins finished second in every poll going forward? We could award him the Susan Lucci Trophy at the end.

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Go Harkins!

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Bloody hell. Accidentally voted for Harkins.


Harkins!

My #5 and #6 in a Tiebreaker for #8.

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Wouldn't it be great if Harkins finished second in every poll going forward? We could award him the Susan Lucci Trophy at the end.


Voting Harkins on the Susan Lucci ticket.

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Just made it 16 all. I smell BS.

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Moar ties!!!!

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If this ends up in another tie, Jets fans may riot.

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Voting Harkins because he officially was runner-up for 7th best prospect, so he should have got 8th by default.

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Would have voted other if given more than two choices. But it's a tie-breaker so went with Harkins, just barely.

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Samberg.

The sheer magnitude of value with potential differences negates the smaller difference in safety.

Put it this way, Samberg misses his upside but still makes the NHL as a quality 3rd pair, he probably still generates similar or more value than Harkins hitting his 3C realistic ceiling.

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Are people actually voting for who they want, or are they purposely voting for whoever keeps it close?

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Are people actually voting for who they want, or are they purposely voting for whoever keeps it close?
Some of both methinks.

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Here's a list of all the players drafted in the 2nd round out of US High School in the last 10 years:

2007 Tommy Cross, D, Westminster H.S. (Conn.), 3 NHL GP
2007 Nico Sacchetti, C, Virginia H.S. (Minn.), 0 NHL GP
2007 Will Weber, D, Gaylord H.S. (Mich.), 0 NHL GP
2008 Derek Stepan, C, Shattuck St. Mary's (Minn), 515 NHL GP
2008 Aaron Ness, D, Roseau H.S. (Minn.), 39 NHL GP
2009 Zach Budish, R, Edina H.S. (Minn.), 0 NHL GP
2010 Mark Alt, D, Cretin-Derham H.S. [Minn.], 1 NHL GP
2010 Justin Holl, D, Minnetonka H.S. [Minn.], 0 NHL GP
2011 Mario Lucia, F, Wayzata H.S. (Minn.), 0 NHL GP
2012 Teddy Blueger, C, Shattuck St. Mary's [Minn. H.S], 0 NHL GP
2012 Brian Hart, R, Exeter Academy [NH H.S.], 0 NHL GP
2012 Sam Kurker, R, St. John's Prep [Mass. H.S.], 0 NHL GP
2013 Connor Hurley, C, Edina (Minn. H.S.), 0 NHL GP
2013 Tommy Vannelli, D, Minnetonka (Minn. H.S.), 0 NHL GP
2014 Ryan Donato, C, Dexter School (Mass H.S.), 0 NHL GP
2015 None drafted
2016 None drafted
2017 Dylan Samberg, D, Hermantown [Minn. H.S.]

558 games in the NHL combined - and 515 of those are from Stepan. You have to go back to 2005 to Taylor Chorney to find a USHS defenseman drafted in the 2nd round who played more than 100 NHL games.

Who's his PCS cohort here Garret? Does it include Matt Smaby, maybe?

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Samberg.

The sheer magnitude of value with potential differences negates the smaller difference in safety.

Put it this way, Samberg misses his upside but still makes the NHL as a quality 3rd pair, he probably still generates similar or more value than Harkins hitting his 3C realistic ceiling.
harkins' ceiling is not just a 3C.. that's your own opinion

he could be a stastny/krejci type player

also you are overhyping samberg immensely. i think a 3rd pairing guy is all we should expect. he reminds me of an extremely poverty version of trouba

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Stanley...

Fine, Harkins.


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Voting Harkins because he officially was runner-up for 7th best prospect, so he should have got 8th by default.
Agreed even though I voted Samberg over Harkins. These guys are in such a tight range now it comes down to who logs on at the right time to tip the scales.

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harkins' ceiling is not just a 3C.. that's your own opinion

he could be a stastny/krejci type player

also you are overhyping samberg immensely. i think a 3rd pairing guy is all we should expect. he reminds me of an extremely poverty version of trouba
And. . . you are doing the exact same thing.

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Voting Harkins because he officially was runner-up for 7th best prospect, so he should have got 8th by default.
I did that last time we had a tiebreaker (between Morrissey and Petan in 2015, IIRC), and people were mad.

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I did that last time we had a tiebreaker (between Morrissey and Petan in 2015, IIRC), and people were mad.
It is all good. This is just a fun way to pass some time during the off season.

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I did that last time we had a tiebreaker (between Morrissey and Petan in 2015, IIRC), and people were mad.
Morrissey and Petan tied. Shows how hard it is to predict how prospects will turn out. Anyone with strong views that Harkins is better than Samberg, or vice versa, would do well to keep that in mind. However, strong views that Stanley sucks are completely justifiable.

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Harkins... I feel hes actually extremely under rated.

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