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04-01-2006, 02:56 PM
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"It's clear Theodore cost Julien his job..."

Amazing. Jack Todd is so right.


http://www.canada.com/montrealgazett...66d227&k=43317

Huet carries Canadiens on his back
JACK TODD, The Gazette
Published: Wednesday, March 29, 2006
on goaltendingTwenty minutes after carving his sixth shutout of the season in a scintillating 2-0 win over the New York Islanders, Cristobal Huet was still making saves.

"Surely," a TV type asked, "it must be special to get six shutouts?"

Huet shrugged. "It's never just the goaltender," he said. "When you get a shutout, it's the whole team. ..."

Save, Huet.

Each night, the crowd around Huet's locker gets deeper and more aggressive. With each game, Huet gets more diffident. No save was bigger than any other. It's never him, it's the team. He's just trying to do what he can to help his team to win games.

If it's quotes you want, phone Patrick Roy.

If you want saves, turn to the young Frenchman who is carrying this team into the playoffs on his slender shoulders. With last night's win, Huet and the Canadiens are in a three-way tie for sixth place in the Eastern Conference with the Tampa Bay Lightning and the New Jersey Devils, shootout winners over Ottawa last night.

With 10 games to play in a roller-coaster season, the Canadiens are climbing the mountain, thanks in large part to Huet. And somewhere out there in limbo land, Claude Julien has to be shaking his head and wondering: What if Bob Gainey had simply left well enough alone?

Before he was so ignominiously fired by telephone, Julien had figured out that Huet could play. Julien had made the move from Jose Theodore to Huet. Huet was at least keeping the Canadiens in games, something Theodore had failed to do after the early weeks of the season.

Point is, it was Huet who saved the Canadiens bacon this year, not the coaching switch that saw Gainey replace Julien behind the bench.

It's also clear that Theodore cost Julien his job.

After Theodore had lost four straight and gave up six goals to Pittsburgh and five to New Jersey, Huet made the final two starts of Julien's career with the Canadiens, beating Ottawa at home and losing to Colorado on the road.

As soon as Julien was out the door, Gainey went back to Theodore - with disastrous results. Theodore won his first two starts for Gainey, then lost three straight and was pulled in three of his last four appearances before Gainey finally gave up and went to Huet.


The switch would turn out to be permanent after Theodore first broke his heel, then was traded to Colorado for David Aebischer. When Theodore left town, his record for the Canadiens was 17-15-5 (really 17-20) with an .886 save percentage and a 3.46 goals-against average.

Over his last five games with the CH, Theodore was much worse: his save percentage was an awful .774, his GGA 6.70 - and when he left, Theodore had posted not a single shutout.

Enter Huet, stage left. After making 36 stopslast night, Huet improved his league-leading save percentage to a cool .930, with a GGA of 2.14, second to Dominik Hasek. The six shutouts leave him tied for second with Detroit's Manny Legace.

Project those numbers over a full season and you spell it

"Vezina Trophy."

"The puck sticks to him," said one veteran hockey type last night. "He's so relaxed, the puck sticks to him, doesn't bounce."


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Alot of this insight has already been mentioned on this board...Nice to see the press is now writing these types of articles...Huet is the main reason the Habs were able to turn it around.

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Amazing. Jack Todd is so right.
Impossible!

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I've gone back over old clips on nhl.com and I've watched games where Theo is giving up the most juicy rebounds and getting beat one-and-one like a rented mule as Mike Lang would say. He always gets caught outta position and can't stop shots high glove side. It's like night and day watching those Habs and the current Habs.

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As much as I liked Julien, it was the right thing to do. The team was floundering and it wasn't just Theodore that cost him his job. He also lost the room and if you look at any younger player on the team even some of the newcomers like Dandenault and the way they've played post Julien you can see the difference that a coach can make. Theo made of been a part of Julien leaving, Huet may have been a part of the resergence, but Julien had his own hand in his demise and Gainey and Carbo have definiately had an impact. It's pretty easy to point fingers and sing praises now that Theo is actually gone and Huet is the best save % goalie in the league. If mister Todd could have predicted all this so long ago, maybe he wouldn't be writing about what other's are actually doing.

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What isn't mentioned is the far better defense we've had since Gainey/Carbo took over and we now have lines that play together instead of the constant shuffle and confidence smashing system of Julien.

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I would add to that his bad use of the rookies.

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So it's theodore who didnt give icetime to the rookies? Who didnt put Komisarek with Markov? Who didn't stick with Higgins on the first line? etc.. etc..


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Insightful.

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Jack Todd couldn't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the a.

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Why do all media types insist on simplifying everything into a 'neat little package', to quote The Simpsons.

Theodore cost Julien his job eh? That's it? No other reasons? Whatever you say Todd.

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"Now, with every start, Huet is writing a new chapter in the Canadiens legend. He doesn't have Ken Dryden's cool lean on the stick or Patrick Roy's way of shaking his head and flipping his mask, or Theodore's hair.

He just stays calm and makes the stop. In French it's called sang froid.

And if Cristobal Huet was any cooler, he'd be Ted Williams."



Jesus lets retire his jersey already!!!

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Now to look into my mystical oracle to see the future...

One day in the future, Huet will falter, and the fans will boo. Todd will get on the highest horse he can find in the land and chastise these ingrates.

Habs will go on a month long slide with Huet in nets in a season to come, and Todd will start making up stories about how Huet has let the jet-setting, Ferrari lifestyle get to his head and he needs to focus on hockey and Montreal fans deserve better.

Huet will one day, no doubt, leave Habland, at which point Jack Todd will call management clueless and say that he knew all along Huet was awful and that everybody should be fired.

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Phooey on Jack Todd.

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Now to look into my mystical oracle to see the future...

One day in the future, Huet will falter, and the fans will boo. Todd will get on the highest horse he can find in the land and chastise these ingrates.

Habs will go on a month long slide with Huet in nets in a season to come, and Todd will start making up stories about how Huet has let the jet-setting, Ferrari lifestyle get to his head and he needs to focus on hockey and Montreal fans deserve better.

Huet will one day, no doubt, leave Habland, at which point Jack Todd will call management clueless and say that he knew all along Huet was awful and that everybody should be fired.
Nostradamus is that you?

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So it's theodore who didnt give icetime to the rookies? Who didnt put Komisarek with Markov? Who didn't stick with Higgins on the first line? etc.. etc..

Komisarek was playing absolutely horrible under Julien. He was going through personal problems (Mother). Can't blame Claude for that.

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Jack Todd should remember that at the beginning of the season we were at the top of the standings, even first at one point, beating everyone. Theodore had nothing to do with it, he's play was very average....

So, something else happen with that team,...
Theodore had an awful season, no matter what..

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Yes Theo did cost Julien his job and now he is gone too. That sucks, Theo should apologize to Julien publicly.

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Komisarek was playing absolutely horrible under Julien. He was going through personal problems (Mother). Can't blame Claude for that.
I like Julien, but I don't believe he handled Komisarek as well as he could have.

Komisarek was quoted after his emergence this season, directly linking his improvement with Gainey's approach. He stated Gainey told him just to work hard and he would continue getting ice time. And that this was important to him because he was playing worried that he'd make a mistake previously (and be benched as a result).

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In retrospect, it might turn out to be the most appropriate decision. Although we all know that Julien was a classy man with a good hockey head and respect for his players, maybe it's true that he wasn't able to put this bunch of guys together to create a real pleasant team atmosphere. Gainey and Carbonneau seem to have been doing that since taking over, and it can only be a good thing that Carbo, Muller (perhaps) and Jarvis will be behind the bench in 06-07.

Anyway, it's too bad that Theodore cost Julien's... but it's done now and I'm thankful to Gainey for trading Jose. Too many distractions were surrounding him.

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Got a scoop for ya.

Julien and some people were spotted doing some skidoo in some northern parts of the province (during the Olympic break) with representatives of the Devils. Including a very prominent member of the organisation.

Can't say more.

Gna-gna.

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Komisarek was playing absolutely horrible under Julien. He was going through personal problems (Mother). Can't blame Claude for that.
Komisarek said himself that Gainey had confidence in him and told him only to work hard and not to worry with anything and that he'd get icetime and look what happened.

Julien kept giving bottom minutes to Komisarek and benching him when he was making mistakes...

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Komisarek said himself that Gainey had confidence in him and told him only to work hard and not to worry with anything and that he'd get icetime and look what happened.

Julien kept giving bottom minutes to Komisarek and benching him when he was making mistakes...
But his mother had just died...He was playing bad hockey (even the first games when Gainey had taken over). After a few games he progressed and then saw more icetime, till finaly he was tried with Markov. He played a 'bad' game tonight (not very, but our worst Dman of the night), and look at what gainey did. He restricted his icetime, stuff happens. He shouldn't be considered a top 4 guy yet...

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He played a 'bad' game tonight (not very, but our worst Dman of the night), and look at what gainey did. He restricted his icetime, stuff happens.
Komisarek was third amongst Canadien defensemen in ES ice-time tonight (only 11 seconds behind number two - Souray).

The only reason he had limited total ice time is because the load on the PP is shared between Markov, Streit, Souray and Rivet, and because Komisarek's usual minutes (on the PK) weren't there since he was sitting in the box for half of Montreal's time short-handed.

I don't think tonight is proving your point.

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But his mother had just died...He was playing bad hockey (even the first games when Gainey had taken over). After a few games he progressed and then saw more icetime, till finaly he was tried with Markov. He played a 'bad' game tonight (not very, but our worst Dman of the night), and look at what gainey did. He restricted his icetime, stuff happens. He shouldn't be considered a top 4 guy yet...
He's not a top 4 guy yet for sure, but now he's improving and that's all that matters.

I'm really happy about how Gainey is using the kids so far, I can't say the same about Julien, it was one of the reasons I wanted him gone.

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