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04-03-2006, 12:18 PM
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I'm not sold on Murray being a good fit for that line, but another upside is that the Kovalev line has been brutal defensively. Murray's been arguably Montreal's top defensive player the past few weeks. Good combination in that respect.

He will crash the net, so Kovalev and Ribeiro can hopefully just get the puck on net and be opportunistic with Murray wreaking havoc. Ideally that's how this works out.
Oh believe me, I'd rather see somebody else on a top 2 line than Murray, but like I said, Zed has been awful. And Kovy has a hard time clicking with him it seems.

You're right though, Murray will bring more defense and that's good for Kovy I imagine

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They should spread the icetime around, Perez deserves better then 6 or 8 min.

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They should spread the icetime around, Perez deserves better then 6 or 8 min.
Perezhogin looks much better with limited ice-time imo. When he took a regular shift on the second line he looked invisible to me. Now that he plays sparingly, he seems to be motivated a little more.

Hopefully this is the coaching staff's way of getting him going...I just hope he continues to skate and forecheck out there if he gets a promoted to a scoring line. Although his line scored both goals the other night so I'm pretty happy about that.

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04-03-2006, 12:26 PM
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I don't know, I thought Zednik was solid against Boston. Didn't get results, and didn't go to the net enough, but still was skating well, forechecking well and giving a second effort. So the timing's off on benching him.

Then again, as Gainey stated earlier, results matters most at this stage.

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04-03-2006, 12:28 PM
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Murray can't really be worst then Zednik and really you don't have to be God to score with Ribs and Kovy, just drive the net and try to touch the puck before it goes in.
Jeez, Holmstrom in Detroit have been scoring garbage goal like that for 8 year now, it should not be that hard...
Plus defensive awerness from him on this line should be welcome...

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I don't know, I thought Zednik was solid against Boston. Didn't get results, and didn't go to the net enough, but still was skating well, forechecking well and giving a second effort. So the timing's off on benching him.

Then again, as Gainey stated earlier, results matters most at this stage.
I thought Zed was playing alright at one point last week but I think his play HAS to be better than it was against Boston imo.

Hopefully the benching will wake him up.

I mean look at Bulis, career high in goals and he has been benched a few times.

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Sounds like Gainey may have given up on waking up Zednik in time for the playoffs. So have I.
I don't think Gainey has given up yet. In fact I beleive this is just another step in hopefully shaking Zednik out of his slump. Sometimes watching a game or two from the press box can do a player a world of good.

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I don't know, I thought Zednik was solid against Boston. Didn't get results, and didn't go to the net enough, but still was skating well, forechecking well and giving a second effort. So the timing's off on benching him.

Then again, as Gainey stated earlier, results matters most at this stage.
I thought the timing was a little odd as well. To me Zednik looked more involved then he has been most of the season. Although i guess maybe gainey just felt enough was enough.

To me he is overhandling the puck. There were a few chances in Boston were he had chances to cut to the front but lost control of the puck. Zeddy is a guy who must go to the net to be successful and i feel he is trying to be to fancy and thats just not his game.

That said, his physical game is much improved. In this aspect he is back to normal.He is actually finishing his checks and looks like he has gotten some of that edge back he used to have.

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04-03-2006, 12:54 PM
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Exactly. It would also make the 3rd line more "offensive".
But I guess that would hurt poor Jan's feelings. Wasn't the one who was reported to be near tears after a meeting earlier this year?

If Bob rewards a player whose not willing to pay the price he's making a big mistake.
How could the thrid line be more offensive with Murray gone??

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04-03-2006, 01:14 PM
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Murray will be on the second line and Bulis on the 3rd.

Bulis will also play on the PP.

This is reported by Francois Gagnon at cyberpresse.ca

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Let the kid play on the 2nd line and on the PP. After some time spent in the press box, Bulis will give his best I think. And even if he doesn't, the important thing is that Zed is out!

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I don't get it. I'm really happy to see Zednik in the stands but Murray on the 2nd line? Just because a guy scores 2 goals in a game, that doesn't make him a 2nd line forward. Put Bulis there and leave Murray on the 4th line like he should be for crying out loud. By the way, the Habs 3rd line is the line of Bonk-Begin-Downey. Plekanec-Murray-Perezhogin is the 4th line.

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I don't think Gainey has given up yet. In fact I beleive this is just another step in hopefully shaking Zednik out of his slump. Sometimes watching a game or two from the press box can do a player a world of good.
Well I thought that's what he tried last time he sent him upstairs, then brought him back. He had some energy but no results unfortunately.

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I thought Zed was playing alright at one point last week but I think his play HAS to be better than it was against Boston imo.

Hopefully the benching will wake him up.

I mean look at Bulis, career high in goals and he has been benched a few times.

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He wasn't , I guess Gainey sees the same game as me, Zednik was AWFUL

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Murray on the 2nd ??

I like him and all but

I guess that this is one of Gainey's egnimatic moves.

Note that it can always be changed anytime during the game anyway.

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I don't get it. I'm really happy to see Zednik in the stands but Murray on the 2nd line? Just because a guy scores 2 goals in a game, that doesn't make him a 2nd line forward. Put Bulis there and leave Murray on the 4th line like he should be for crying out loud. By the way, the Habs 3rd line is the line of Bonk-Begin-Downey. Plekanec-Murray-Perezhogin is the 4th line.
you should read what another poster said in this thread...

Murray on the second line isnt as much to be an offensive force but to have someone who can crash the net as neither deadwood, kovy nor ribs have been doing it. plus it will add a defensive awareness player to the line as well.

i think it's a good idea.

we shall see who will be eating their words come the after game talk.

Not only that, but it seems that every move Gainey makes is criticized to death only to come up later to being a completely genial thing to do.

The habs are winning and Gainey keeps impressing us with the long term decision he makes when they pan out.

At this point, im shutting my mouth and enjoying the show. And so should all of you who keep complaining about something.

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At this stage, I wouldn't mind experimenting with Bulis in the lineup over Zednik. We could probably afford it, considering there isn't much of a dropoff between Zednik and Bulis anymore.

Richard Zednik has been largely invisible all season, and clearly needs something to wake him up. If Jan Bulis plays tomorrow night, he will be fired up, and will be extremely insistent on proving a point to Gainey that he deserves playing time. Although cliched, creating competition like that is often a good thing, and can bring the best out in a player. The night that Bulis scored 4, he was supposed to be in the stands, but he proved to Gainey that he needed to be on the ice. Considering his recent comments, this would be Bulis's chance to actually prove that he deserves more time.

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Nice. Now if we can only get Ribs out of the lineup as well.

seriously if you put out ribeiro , who's gona replace him?

we dont have a lot of center..

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seriously if you put out ribeiro , who's gona replace him?

we dont have a lot of center..
Some people think Bulis Bonk and Pleks have more offensive upside than Ribeiro...

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Some people think Bulis Bonk and Pleks have more offensive upside than Ribeiro...
Yeah I would say the Habs have ton's of centres.
Koivu
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Bonk
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Higgins (natural centre)

On many nights this team has dressed seven nautral centres.

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Yeah I would say the Habs have ton's of centres.
Koivu
Ribeiro
Bonk
Plekanec
Begin
Bulis
Higgins (natural centre)

On many nights this team has dressed seven nautral centres.
I don't know weither Higgins is bad at face offs or playmaking but I don't think he'll return to the center position for a while. Begin, well he's nothing more than a 3rd-4th liner. Pleks to me would be the only guy who could replace Ribeiro on the second line and still do good.

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Higgins is bad at faceoffs I believe that is why he was converted.
I think Bonk may be the Habs 2nd line centre next season.

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Higgins is bad at faceoffs I believe that is why he was converted.
I think Bonk may be the Habs 2nd line centre next season.
Well then, you're a little coo-coo. Go inquire about Bonk on the Sens' board.

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