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08-11-2017, 01:48 PM
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What if you were being suspended from work for something you didn't do?
Then you could take them to court. However that case would be heard by a civil court and not a criminal court. The burdens of proof may be different and you'd be fighting against your employer in how they treated you as an employee, not whether or not you committed a crime.

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I wonder if Goodell gave him 6 games up front because he already knows that the length will likely be reduced by about half ????
Well, they gave him the standard length for a suspension due to DV.

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08-11-2017, 02:00 PM
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So your employer can just suspend you one day for no reason at all? Got it.
Violating company policy is a reason. It was the reason given here.

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08-11-2017, 02:19 PM
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Ol Rog' probably got a bit of service under table from his buttbuddy John Mara.

This whole thing is based off of a case the actual judicial system decided was not worth the time to pursue, and a case where Zeke had seemingly enough evidence to prove he was not in the wrong at all.

This is why i laugh when people say Bettman is the worst commissioner in sports.

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08-11-2017, 02:26 PM
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This whole thing is based off of a case the actual judicial system decided was not worth the time to pursue, and a case where Zeke had seemingly enough evidence to prove he was not in the wrong at all.
You guys aren't going to read the NFL's letter are you? You're just going to keep saying this as though it proves something.

The Columbus police didn't ever once phrase it that way. The Columbus police said they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute. The NFL was able to gain access to info the police didn't have when the police dropped the case.

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08-11-2017, 02:28 PM
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If they have the evidence, then they should prove it.

I'm sure a lot of people would calmly accept the punishment for what it was if the NFL was acting correctly instead of being all draconian and vague.

And considering how there's signed affidavit from her friend saying the gf asked the friend to lie to police and the gf said to Zeke that she would "ruin his career," i highly doubt they actually have evidence.

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08-11-2017, 02:31 PM
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Goodell once again shows what a joke he is. Publish the evidence.

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08-11-2017, 02:33 PM
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Yeah, an Ohio State superstar wasn't punished in Columbus. Big shock, right?



As for the suspension if he did it he did it and he is acting like a POS of the field. The only thing that I can't wrap my mind around is the inconsistencies regarding his suspension compared to others. The whole situation is murky as **** regardless.

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So you want the league to publish the victim's photos and text messages? Yeah, that's never going to happen.

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As for the suspension if he did it he did it and he is acting like a POS of the field. The only thing that I can't wrap my mind around is the inconsistencies regarding his suspension compared to others. The whole situation is murky as **** regardless.
What is inconsistent about this? Hardy got 10 games for his first offense.

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Goodell once again shows what a joke he is. Publish the evidence.
He can't publish something that doesn't exist

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He can't publish something that doesn't exist
ooooh this I like
it's a conspiracy against the Cowboys!
[the cowboys being owned by the guy who praised Godell for the Deflategate penalties and said that the connections stemming from scientific studies on head injuries and football are "absurd"]

but yeah, the commish has some hidden agenda here...

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ooooh this I like
it's a conspiracy against the Cowboys!
[the cowboys being owned by the guy who praised Godell for the Deflategate penalties and said that the connections stemming from scientific studies on head injuries and football are "absurd"]

but yeah, the commish has some hidden agenda here...
As If the NFL has something the cops don't have. Acting like the NFL under special prosecutor or something smh

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You guys aren't going to read the NFL's letter are you? You're just going to keep saying this as though it proves something.

The Columbus police didn't ever once phrase it that way. The Columbus police said they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute. The NFL was able to gain access to info the police didn't have when the police dropped the case.
Either it was sheer incompetence on the part of the Columbus PD or somehow the NFL was able to obtain evidence that they didn't have.

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Either it was sheer incompetence on the part of the Columbus PD or somehow the NFL was able to obtain evidence that they didn't have.
The NFL was able to get the cell phone metadata that proved when the photos were taken. The police did not have that info. The police had the photos but they were not able to prove when they were taken.

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So your employer can just suspend you one day for no reason at all? Got it.
Umm....yeah?

Most employment is at an at will basis with employers the power to suspend and terminate whenever they feel like it with no reason.

And let's not say Zeke paid anybody off. That's a lawsuit.

Imo, good for the NFL for doing this. Let him sit hopefully without pay and learn a lesson as to just how fragile your career is when you batter a fragile women.

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As If the NFL has something the cops don't have. Acting like the NFL under special prosecutor or something smh
The NFL doesn't have to follow what law enforcement does or does not do. The players ****ed themselves by giving Goodell this power.

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The NFL doesn't have to follow what law enforcement does or does not do. The players ****ed themselves by giving Goodell this power.
Actually, the players ****ed themselves by having so many guys getting in trouble that the league wanted to start cracking down on bad behavior.

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As If the NFL has something the cops don't have.
they did, actually
you can read about it in this very thread
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Actually, the players ****ed themselves by having so many guys getting in trouble that the league wanted to start cracking down on bad behavior.
yep
was a complete embarrassment to the league and they aren't letting this stuff go/get buried anymore

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ooooh this I like
it's a conspiracy against the Cowboys!
[the cowboys being owned by the guy who praised Godell for the Deflategate penalties and said that the connections stemming from scientific studies on head injuries and football are "absurd"]

but yeah, the commish has some hidden agenda here...
It has nothing to do with Jerry

It has to do with Goodell telling Zeke to stop partying, and doing it anyways. Its a personal vendetta about Rogers fragile ego.

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Wouldn't it just be crazy that in 4 years we could open up ESPN.com and not read about whose lawyers did this, which convictions hadn't gone through, and what players didn't have upcoming suspensions? Maybe we could concentrate on the preseason and stories like Trubisky vs stories like what metadata contained in a DV case?

Wouldn't it be crazy if we could just go read about football?

The league has an image problem. It promotes breast cancer awareness but has players that are suspected of battery and aggression towards women. That's a problem.

The NFL is trying to address all this image stuff. For years they let it fly by. I think the league is trying to send a hard message that this stuff is not acceptable anymore and it's not just going to turn a blind eye to its players and how they're representing the league.

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Big Ben got a 6 game suspension and was never charged with anything either

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The NFL was able to get the cell phone metadata that proved when the photos were taken. The police did not have that info. The police had the photos but they were not able to prove when they were taken.
And there was a witness statement that said she got into a fight with another woman, not with Elliott.

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They said potential banishment? Lol. Jones should fight this

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