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04-05-2006, 02:17 PM
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Trouble In The Twin Cities?

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TROUBLE IN THE TWIN CITIES?
The Minnesota Wild sit at the .500 mark (34-34-7) with eight games remaining on their 2005-06 regular-season schedule. While they still have a mathematical shot at the postseason, they're basically playing for next year--again. After all, Minny sits last in the tough Northwest Division (12th in the Western Conference) with just 75 points.
While the Wild are among the best defensive teams in the West (198 goals against, fourth in the conference), offense continues to be a problem. With just 211 goals scored, Minny ranks 11th in the conference. Only the Calgary Flames have scored less and are currently in a playoff spot out West.

Is the Minnesota system working? After all, the team will miss out on the postseason for the fourth time in its five-season existence. Coach Jacques Lemaire is an accomplished system-oriented bench boss who is most famous for perfecting the neutral-zone trap. Lemaire's teams usually don't have any individual players that stand out, and the team always comes first. However, the Wild are starting to look more and more like several other NHL clubs. For one thing, the team has finally decided to go with a true No. 1 goaltender (Manny Fernandez), after four seasons of utilizing the platoon system. Also, Minnesota already boasts two 30-goal men in Marian Gaborik (34) and Brian Rolston (32).

Unfortunately, the defense corps has struggled since the departure of stalwart Willie Mitchell--who was traded in a deadline deal with the Dallas Stars that netted Martin Skoula. Mitchell had expressed his desire to remain in Minnesota, and was disappointed GM Doug Risebrough decided against re-signing the potential unrestricted free agent. Other potential free agents still on the Wild roster include defensemen Filip Kuba, Andrei Zyuzin and Daniel Tjarnqvist, as well as forwards Randy Robitaille and Marc Chouinard.

However, not all is doom and gloom in the Twin Cities. Several young players have made key contributions this season, including 24-year-old Gaborik, 21-year-old winger Pierre-Marc Bouchard, 24-year-old rookie defenseman Kurtis Foster and 23-year-old rookie center Mikko Koivu. Furthermore, 21-year-old netminder Josh Harding has taken over as the backup to Fernandez, since the Dwayne Roloson trade to the Edmonton Oilers before the trade deadline. And then there are the prospects: AHLers Patrick O'Sullivan, who is tearing up the minor-pro ranks, and Roman Voloshenko; OHL star Benoit Pouliot and NCAA scoring winger Danny Irmen. So, the future looks bright for Minnesota fans.

Will the team be able to incorporate all the young talent into Lemaire's system, or will there be casualties along the way? Are Risebrough and Lemaire willing to adjust the system to suit the roster? Will veterans be added in the off-season to help the youngsters along? Is ownership willing to spend more money to improve the Wild's plight? These could be the burning questions this summer in the Twin Cities.

http://tsf.waymoresports.thestar.com...espec=20060404

I like some of the questions the article asks, and was wondering what others thought?
-Is the Minnesota system working?
-Is ownership willing to spend more money to improve the Wild's plight?
-Will the team be able to incorporate all the young talent into Lemaire's system

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I like some of the questions the article asks, and was wondering what others thought?
-Is the Minnesota system working?
-Is ownership willing to spend more money to improve the Wild's plight?
-Will the team be able to incorporate all the young talent into Lemaire's system
Considering our overall team age and payroll, the system is fine. What happened is the guys we were counting on for our second tier of scoring had crap years. Alexander Daigle and Pascal Dupuis were absent. The Daigle-Bagel is gone. Dupuis will likely follow him. These guys produced in the past, so its not like we were hoping for our young'uns to produce. I also think Marc Chouinard could have produced more. We were also counting on Philip Kuba for points from the blueline ... he didn't produce.

Gaborik, Rolston and Pierre Marc Bouchard are legitimate scoring threats. Gabbie is 24 and PMB is 21 -- they're only going to get better. New additions Randy Robitaille and Todd White produced decent points and Wes Walz, our shutdown man, had a great season. Kurtis Foster turned out to be a steal and produced almost 30 points as a rookie.

What I'm hoping will happen is Doug Riseborough will spend some of the filthy lucre we've been piling up as a result of selling out EVERY game EVER played and having one of the top merchandising teams in the league. I'm hoping for a top level UFA defenseman and at a minimum a couple of 2nd tier scorers. I think there are a couple of top UFA scorers who would fit into the Wild system and you never know if DR will go for bringing in a top scorer. There is always hope ... its unlikely, though.

With Mikku Koivu yet to produce plus Patrick O'Sullivan, Roman Voloshenko and Benoit Pouliot yet to appear, we can always hope our prospects can produce the goods in the NHL. PO'S looks to be the real deal. He's elevated his game at every level and shows up for big games ... I hope he has a good postseason with the Aeros. Volo probably needs another year to work on his skating although he might get called up next year if injuries hit.

By not bringing in lots of aging veterans ala Columbus, we have a better chance of letting our home grown talent blossom. DR has a history of bringing in the right guys for the system (Rolston, Robitaille & White) without endangering our youth development philosophy. Also, he's always into reclamation projects.

I think there'll be a clear-out of some deadwood this spring-summer and we'll see a revamped Wild next September.

Here's to hoping ...

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Good find Josh. I think we'll start to see more and more of this stuff this offseason. Maybe put a little pressure on management. I voiced some of my opinions in a different thread but will reiterate by saying eventually some moves will need to be made and what their icing in St. Paul isn't gonna win us Stanley Cup, let alone make the playoffs.

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Just an outside observer here. I really like the way Minnesota has stock piled young and talented players. My own personal opinion though is that Lemaire is going to neuter those players of any offensive ability. Let's face it. O'Sullivan and Voloshenko should have garnered a call up for at least the last 10 games of the season. As well, they've screwed up the development of Brent Burns by having flop back and forth between forward and defense.

As well, Doug Risebrough took the heart of the team (Willie Mitchell) and got rid of him simply because he wouldn't pay what Mitchell is worth. With all the money the Wild have, there is no reason that they couldn't have signed Mitchell. Risebrough tried to go on the cheap, not what was fair. That will ultimately be his downfall.

For the most part though, and as much as I despise Lemaire for re-introducing the trap to the league, he's been very good for Minnesota. But he needs to open his game up a little more. Gaborik should be a 50 goal scorer in this league. Let him loose. If Lemaire opens things up, I could see Minnesota being just a scary good team. You know that every player on the team will know how to play defense, so that should never be an issue.

As well, the only other question I have is about Benoit Pouliot. I'm wondering if Minnesota may have reached a bit. He hasn't been very impressive this year and looks like he might have taken a step back in his development. As well, the team could also afford to draft not a good, but a great defenseman. I'm not convinced AJ Thelen and Brent Burns are the guys to be the number one guy on D in Minnesota. They need to hit a home run in that department. Other than that, their forward prospects are very impressive. Kudos to a great scouting staff.

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well, here's my take on his take:

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Just an outside observer here. I really like the way Minnesota has stock piled young and talented players. My own personal opinion though is that Lemaire is going to neuter those players of any offensive ability. Let's face it. O'Sullivan and Voloshenko should have garnered a call up for at least the last 10 games of the season. As well, they've screwed up the development of Brent Burns by having flop back and forth between forward and defense.
True, we have indeed accumulated a pretty decent amount of talent that is waiting in the wings, but we have also gotten incredible mileage out of mediocre players and reclamation projects also- credit is due for that imo. O'Surly, and to a lesser extent Voloshenko did deserve a cup of coffee; however, we were very fortunate with few injuries this year, and when the opportunity was afforded, those call-ups were for people "ahead in line" than those two- dont get me wrong, I'd love to see a #89 wild sweater sniping goals left and right at the X, but in the end, a full year of AHL seasoning was exactly what those two kids needed- and they are in the midst of prepping for a calder cup run.

Burns I agree on, as does everyone else in Minnesota.

As for Lemaire, I wouldnt say he neuters them anymore- after all its a team game, and the system they use works- remember that right now the team is chock full of overachievers who live and die by it because we wouldnt win a game if we went run and gun. And to further negate the argument, Brian Rolston is at a ppg pace, (76 points), and Gaborik has 60 points in 60 games, 34 being goals. With the influx of talent, I think you're going to see more output from Minnesota...and with them playing a team game, they are going to be very very dangerous for years to come.

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As well, Doug Risebrough took the heart of the team (Willie Mitchell) and got rid of him simply because he wouldn't pay what Mitchell is worth. With all the money the Wild have, there is no reason that they couldn't have signed Mitchell. Risebrough tried to go on the cheap, not what was fair. That will ultimately be his downfall.
The whole issue of mitchell and his contract demands are pretty much : , so I wont go ad nauseum...I agree they could have signed mitchell, and he was the unquestioned leader of the team, perhaps Wes Walz deserves mention for that, but with the amount of top 4 d that will be hitting the open market this summer made it easier to trade him. Do we miss him? hell yes we do. They offered up a 4 year 12 mil deal, and his agent (keywords: His agent) said they wouldnt do anything under 3.5 mil a year- well, a spade is a spade, and willie's spade just isnt 3.5 mil a year...I am sore about losing the 2nd rounder next year, but I think Skoula and Shawn Belle can flourish in the Minnesota system.

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For the most part though, and as much as I despise Lemaire for re-introducing the trap to the league, he's been very good for Minnesota. But he needs to open his game up a little more. Gaborik should be a 50 goal scorer in this league. Let him loose. If Lemaire opens things up, I could see Minnesota being just a scary good team. You know that every player on the team will know how to play defense, so that should never be an issue.
Lemaire has loosened the reins on Gaborik...but what is the worse that can happen playing for hockey immortality? he makes you a better player. He has made Gaborik into a player that can play in any situation, and be dangerous anytime he is on the ice...as for the system, everyone employs a form of it, and to say that the other 29 teams are all run and gun and we arent is bogus. Remember the other teams have more talent than us, playing this way is the only way we can compete. And come playoff time, bet your bottom dollar you see the trap from every team out there. Gaborik should be a 50 goal scorer..he is on pace for 48 goals if he wasnt hurt at the beginning of the year. He'll hit 50 in due time.


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As well, the only other question I have is about Benoit Pouliot. I'm wondering if Minnesota may have reached a bit. He hasn't been very impressive this year and looks like he might have taken a step back in his development. As well, the team could also afford to draft not a good, but a great defenseman. I'm not convinced AJ Thelen and Brent Burns are the guys to be the number one guy on D in Minnesota. They need to hit a home run in that department. Other than that, their forward prospects are very impressive. Kudos to a great scouting staff.
Pouliot, to me, seemed bored when he was returned to Sudbury after the preseason...I think that he doesnt have much to prove there anymore, and pretty much played like it- bad penalties, etc.

He is absolutely on a tear in the playoffs right now tho, playing like the kid we drafted. He's got 11 points in 7 games so far, 8 of them goals, 3 game winners...There is no doubt in my mind he will sign if and when Sudbury is done, and will be in camp with a legit shot at making the team next fall. He was very impressive in the preseason, and the fans here are salivating at the prospect of a top six line up of Gaborik-Rolston-PMB-Koivu-O'Sullivan-Pouliot.

as for D, I agree...Burns will continue to improve into a top 3-4 guy, and Thelen is still a question mark, although I think he still can reach top 4. Look for the Wild to go shopping and land a big time d this summer, and using 1 of their 1st round picks on a D also.



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