HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

How much disposable income do the Avs have?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
10-30-2003, 10:08 AM
  #1
Hitman*
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Cowtown
Posts: 4,299
vCash: 500
How much disposable income do the Avs have?

I was watching the FLames/Avs game a couple nights ago and something the announcers said stuck in my mind. How the Avs lack their foot soldiers. They lack the specialists on their 3rd line, which could be a contributing reason to their less than stellar start and why they aren't a favorite right now for the cup.

Then I was thinking, its not like there aren't any of these 3rd and 4th liners available (and for cheap now). Guys like Thomas, Corson, Graves and Oates would be perfect for a team like Colorado. They have the scoring up front, but they could add these heart and soul grinders to give them that extra dimension.

Just a thought. But how much extra money would they be willing to spend?

Hitman* is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 10:25 AM
  #2
Goulet17
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,482
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
I was watching the FLames/Avs game a couple nights ago and something the announcers said stuck in my mind. How the Avs lack their foot soldiers. They lack the specialists on their 3rd line, which could be a contributing reason to their less than stellar start and why they aren't a favorite right now for the cup.

Then I was thinking, its not like there aren't any of these 3rd and 4th liners available (and for cheap now). Guys like Thomas, Corson, Graves and Oates would be perfect for a team like Colorado. They have the scoring up front, but they could add these heart and soul grinders to give them that extra dimension.

Just a thought. But how much extra money would they be willing to spend?
The problem isn't with the Avs lack of quality "foot soldiers" but more with recent rash of injuries.

The Avs currently have Teemu Selanne, Paul Kariya, and Peter Worrell out with injuries. Marek Svatos and Riku Hahl have been lost potentially for the season.

When Kariya and Selanne return, the Avs third line will consist of Andrei Nikolishin-Steve Konowalchuk-Dan Hinote, which compares favorably to some of the better 3rd line checking units in the league. Peter Worrell will slide in on the fourth line probably with players such as Cody McCormack, Brad Larsen, or Charlie Stephens. Their fourth line could use a decent centerman, but other than that, they don't have problems that a return to health wouldn't cure.

Let me guess who made the above statement about the Avs....it was probably none other than Pierre McGuire.

Pierre McGuire seems to think the Avs are the worst team in the league.

Goulet17 is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 10:28 AM
  #3
avfan#21
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I was down but now I'm flying
Posts: 1,748
vCash: 500
You were listening to McGuire no doubt. What did he say when Cummins scored? I'm curious. That's been his biggest beef with the Avs and one he seems to harp on consistantly. I'm not saying he is wrong

As for income, I'd say whatever Lacroix wanted to spend would be okay with Stanley as long as it pays off. Pierre has wanted to wait and see I believe. I agree that at times of injury the Avs could use more foot soldiers, however, once fully healthy they would have a hard time placing them in the lineup. McCormick maybe a rookie, but most of us would like to see him stick in the lineup at least on a third line with Kono and Nikolishin. Fourth line duties go to Hinote, Hahl and Worrell if the last two could get healthy. Of the four you mentioned Graves or Stumpy would be the two I'd look at, and even Graves would be a questionmark. If I had it my way, we'd be looking to make a deal for Tucker who with Kono and Nikolishin would give you all the character you'd need for a third line if McCormick couldn't cut it on a regular basis.

avfan#21 is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 10:30 AM
  #4
andora
Registered User
 
andora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Illuminating Prince
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,025
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to andora
i'd love graves to be honest, at a reduced price i think that would pay off as a good signing..

thomas as well, corson is interesting however it'd be a huge huge risk...

graves is who i'd pick

andora is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 10:44 AM
  #5
Vincent Vega
GGTK
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,824
vCash: 500
Steve Thomas would be a solid addition to the 3rd line.

Thomas - Nikolishin - Konowalchuk

Vincent Vega is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 10:55 AM
  #6
RoyIsALegend*
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Mississauga, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,815
vCash: 500
I don't think any number for how much disposable income the Avs have would be accurate. Stan Kroenke has always allowed Pierre Lacroix budget room to make the moves necessary. For instance, we took on about $1.2 M in the Steve Konowalchuk acquisition.

Considering that Lacroix annually brings in a defenseman, the Avs possibly looking for a goaltender come deadline time and maybe a tweaking to the third line... I'd estimate anywhere between $4 - $6 M would be available for PL to work with.

RoyIsALegend* is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 11:12 AM
  #7
Oilers Ent
Registered User
 
Oilers Ent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Burnaby, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,665
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to Oilers Ent
How much do the H(Aves) have?

Probably this: :-)

Oilers Ent is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 11:50 AM
  #8
Wingboy2999
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: Djibouti
Posts: 1,850
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Wingboy2999 Send a message via Yahoo to Wingboy2999
I don't know if Oates would fit on a 3rd line. He isn't much of a grinder/3rd line type player.

Wingboy2999 is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 12:28 PM
  #9
AllIsFehrNLoveAndWar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Tallahassee, FL
Country: United States
Posts: 4,852
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to AllIsFehrNLoveAndWar Send a message via MSN to AllIsFehrNLoveAndWar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wingboy2999
I don't know if Oates would fit on a 3rd line. He isn't much of a grinder/3rd line type player.
Oates is only good for faceoffs and power plays. Nikolishin is great at faceoffs and the Aves already have too many power play guys to split the time up among. So I agree with you I dont think Oates fits.

Konowalchuk-Nikolishin-Hinote will make a really good checking line just wait till kariya and selanne come back.

AllIsFehrNLoveAndWar is offline  
Old
10-30-2003, 12:48 PM
  #10
Manunited
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 43
vCash: 500
getting rid of skoula

Should the Avs trade away skoula? If so do you think they have enough money to sign Berard and other players down the road?

Manunited is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:11 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.