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04-13-2006, 11:36 PM
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Sid the Kid closing in on 100 point mark

With his four point night tonight he now has 97 points on the year and has three games to get three more points.... This guy deserves the Calder over Ovechkin...Sid is 18 and he is top five in scoring in the entire league.....Pittsburgh is alot worse than the Caps are and if the Pens didnt have Sidney they would be lucky to have 10 wins let alone 20.... Washington would be about the same without Ovechkin IMO.....

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Wrong forum.

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since when.... I have seen tons of calder talk in here, dont read the thread if you dont like the title

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I dont care who gets the calder but im pulling for him to get 100pts , like Lemieux did .

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With his four point night tonight he now has 97 points on the year and has three games to get three more points.... This guy deserves the Calder over Ovechkin...Sid is 18 and he is top five in scoring in the entire league.....Pittsburgh is alot worse than the Caps are and if the Pens didnt have Sidney they would be lucky to have 10 wins let alone 20.... Washington would be about the same without Ovechkin IMO.....
I wish him to break the 100 points, but Ovechkin is still, by far, the Calder leader. He's been more consistant all year long and the age is a non-factor. This is not the rookie of the year considering his age trophy! Anyway, both are awesome.

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DAMN! Way to go Sid! He's making it a real race. Early in the year it was close. Then there was the bickering between the "camps" which made HF an unbearable place. In the past few months AO seemed to have clearly pulled ahead but now in the past few weeks Sid has really made a race out of it.

All in all it's been a joy to watch all the rookies this year. AO, Sid, Phaneuf etc...This year we've really been lucky in terms of rookies.

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I am with you Rass.
I would love for Crosby to hit the century mark, but Ovechkin is simply the best.

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I wish him to break the 100 points, but Ovechkin is still, by far, the Calder leader. He's been more consistant all year long and the age is a non-factor. This is not the rookie of the year considering his age trophy! Anyway, both are awesome.
Its your opinion but age will come into play here...How can you say Crosby hasnt been as consistent as Ovechkin....they are so close in points..... There is no way he is by far the Calder leader

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I am with you Rass.
I would love for Crosby to hit the century mark, but Ovechkin is simply the best.
I don't think many will argue, but lately Crosby seems to be closing the gap that existed between the two.

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Its your opinion but age will come into play here...How can you say Crosby hasnt been as consistent as Ovechkin....they are so close in points..... There is no way he is by far the Calder leader
Crosby is putting points in a bunch lately, but he had couple of cold streak before that. For most of the season, AO had a comfortable lead on Sid. And as for the Calder, I don't see Sideny winning it at all, even if he is getting closer in the scoring department. Ovechkin is so much more of a complete player than Crosby at the moment.

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We shall see.....

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Both players have been consistent, that is to say neither player has gone more then 3 games with out scoring a point. But Crosby did have better players playing with him at the beginning of the year. When they left Crosby continued to produce. Ovechkin is not the runaway winner but I would vote in favour of him for a few reasons.
1) Ovechkin scored 50 goals few rookies let alone players can accomplish this in today’s NHL.
2) Ovechkin is a + player on a dismal team.
3) Ovechkin is not only dynamite offensively but he can play rough and lay some thunderous hits.

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Ovechkin better get the calder.

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just think only 6 more years til crosby comes to play in montreal

cant wait to see what he can do in his prime!!!


hope he gets the 100

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We shall see.....
We don't have to. Ovechkin will win the Calder over Crosby without a doubt. Point totals aren't the only determining factors for winning the Calder. Ovechkin has had no help on that Capitals team. Crosby has his little asskisser stooge in Colby Armstrong, not to mention a few veterans, as over the hill as they are, helping him.

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With his four point night tonight he now has 97 points on the year and has three games to get three more points.... This guy deserves the Calder over Ovechkin...Sid is 18 and he is top five in scoring in the entire league.....Pittsburgh is alot worse than the Caps are and if the Pens didnt have Sidney they would be lucky to have 10 wins let alone 20.... Washington would be about the same without Ovechkin IMO.....
Despite what Jacques Demers was saying, age should not be a factor in Calder selection.

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We don't have to. Ovechkin will win the Calder over Crosby without a doubt. Point totals aren't the only determining factors for winning the Calder. Ovechkin has had no help on that Capitals team. Crosby has his little asskisser stooge in Colby Armstrong, not to mention a few veterans, as over the hill as they are, helping him.
If you are telling me that the Pens are better than the Caps you are way off base....

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If you are telling me that the Pens are better than the Caps you are way off base....
Offensively they are a lot better than Washington!! LeClair, Malone, Recchi, Lemieux, Palffy, Gonchar, Whitney all played with Sid a moment or another this season. They helped boosting the stats of Crosby. Can you say the same thing of Zubrus, Wilsie, Pettinger, Halpern, Clark or everybody else in Washington?


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AO is the second rookie ever to get 50/100. He is a plus player on a horrible defensive team. He is among leaders in hits. And he has a low number of PP despite being physically agressive.

Crosby is having a phenomenal year, but his year has not been quiet as good as AO's: he's a minus player, has a ton of penalty minutes, probably going for some kind of a record in unsportsman-like conduct penalties, and is not nearly a physical presence AO is. While both have occasional defensive lapses, I would also say that Ovechkin is normally more solid defensively.

Overall, I would consider it a highway robbery if Crosby got the Calder over Ovechkin. But that's just me.

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Offensively they are a lot better than Washington!! LeClair, Malone, Recchi, Lemieux, Palffy, Gonchar, Whitney all played with Sid a moment or another this season. They helped boosting the stats of Crosby. Can you say the same thing of Wilsie, Pettinger, Halpern, Clark or everybody else in Washington?

crosby vs overchieken both very impressive season


crosby 18 never played with adults until the season from juniour to nhl 97 pts


overchieken played in russia with the pros etc before coming to the nhl and is 2 year older



both 2 great season both to great players

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uh crosby had way better teammates for the majority of the season (gonchar, recchi, lemieux, palffy, leclair). who did ovechkin have? halpern and the mighty zubrus?

give me a break. ovechkin and lundqvist over crosby by a country mile.

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Offensively they are a lot better than Washington!! LeClair, Malone, Recchi, Lemieux, Palffy, Gonchar, Whitney all played with Sid a moment or another this season. They helped boosting the stats of Crosby. Can you say the same thing of Wilsie, Pettinger, Halpern, Clark or everybody else in Washington?
LeClair never plays with Sid aside from the rare power play. He's hardly useful for anything but getting in the way in front of the net at this stage anyways.
Malone never plays with Sid either.
Recchi was only on the power play.
Lemieux played about 4 shifts with Sid and was a complete non-factor regardless.
Palffy was ****ing terrible and heartless. PPG stats, yes, but almost all were second assists.
Gonchar I'll give you, but he's still a defenseman.
Whitney is a rookie defenseman...come on...


Using the teammate excuse was valid going into the season, but at the end of it the two best players Sid has played with are the guys he's playing with right now...Colby Armstrong and Andy Hilbert...two guys who passed waivers at some point this season.

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uh crosby had way better teammates for the majority of the season (gonchar, recchi, lemieux, palffy, leclair). who did ovechkin have? halpern and the mighty zubrus?

give me a break. ovechkin and lundqvist over crosby by a country mile.
People are seriously downplaying Crosby's season here. Lundqvist? Laughable.

100 pts as an 18 year old is almost unheard of. And his teammates? Maybe if you just looked at their names, but they had horrible years.

Ovechkin is the Calder winner, but I'd say what Crosby is doing at his age after all the crap he's taken is just as impressive.

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crosby vs overchieken both very impressive season


crosby 18 never played with adults until the season from juniour to nhl 97 pts


overchieken played in russia with the pros etc before coming to the nhl and is 2 year older



both 2 great season both to great players
So, next year, is gonna be Evgeny Malkin, a less deserving Calder candidate than a younger, less impressive rookie? I don't think so! Stop thinking like Jacques Demers! Age is not a factor in the Calder voting. It's amazing how Crosby he's playing compared to a almost 2 years older AO, but it won't give him any advantage!

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People are seriously downplaying Crosby's season here. Lundqvist? Laughable.

100 pts as an 18 year old is almost unheard of. And his teammates? Maybe if you just looked at their names, but they had horrible years.

Ovechkin is the Calder winner, but I'd say what Crosby is doing at his age after all the crap he's taken is just as impressive.
Word.

Cannot have said better!

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