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04-17-2006, 10:45 PM
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we've played the sens much better, so i pick them. emery is just too shaky, and i'm not sure if hasek will be able to play a single game in the first round.
the canes are struggling too, man...
it's wierd how the teams that i fear most are not even division leaders (devils, sabres).

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04-17-2006, 10:51 PM
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Ottawa or Carolina

Regular season results have a few holes in them to give a preview of the Habs V Sens/Canes.

Theodore was in net for a lot of losses, Sens were injured etc and Dom played.


The injury excuse did not apply V Toronto on Saturday for the Sens.


Habs in close games(1-2 GD) 32-23-9: 73/128 = 57% of the possible points
Sens in close games 22-13-9 53/90 = 58%
Canes in close games 38-9-8 84/110 = 76%

OT records W-L-SOW-SOL
Habs: 7-6-2-3
7-6( no shootouts in playoffs)
Sens: 2-3-2-6
2-3
Canes: 4-6-8-2
4-6

Head to head

Habs V Sens

2-4
3-4
0-4
4-3
4-1
0-3
5-3
3-2

3-2 in close games
1-2 in 3+ games

Habs V Canes

3-5
3-7
2-8
1-5

0-1 in close games
0-3 in 3+ games

Summary:

I would prefer to face the slumping Sens in the first round especially if Dom can not play.

Emery looks shaky and the Sens need 4+ goals a game to be effective, just don’t see that happening in a playoff series.

Sens had 4 goals thrice V Habs but that was eons ago when Theodore was still a Hab.

Since Theodore was traded the Sens have scored 12 goals in 5 games for a GA of 2.4 whereas the Habs have scored 16 in 5 games for a GF of 3.2.

CBC would also prefer this match up

Dom might regret saying ‘easiest shutout of his career’ if he faces the Habs in R1.


8 goals V the Canes in 4 games does not bode well for the Habs.

Goalies were off/ we traded him only goes so far when the offence only averages 2 goals/G.

I am just glad that the Devils are not our first round opponent.

Here is to a good first round series

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04-17-2006, 10:57 PM
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I think we have an equal chance with both teams, so I'd much rather play Ottawa.

One of my buddies is a big Sens fan, all of Canada will be watching, the energy and electricity in those games should be just ridick.

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04-17-2006, 11:40 PM
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Ottawa's hurt. Gimme Ottawa. Carolina has had our number. Either way, I bet Gainey has something up his sleeve.

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04-17-2006, 11:49 PM
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we're in tough no matter who we play... but i wouldn't mind Ottawa, to build up a rivalry.

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04-18-2006, 12:23 AM
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Ottawa's hurt. Gimme Ottawa. Carolina has had our number. Either way, I bet Gainey has something up his sleeve.
Dear Habs Fans:
Redden is back, and totally rested.
Chara is back, healthy, and totally rested.
Phillips is now scating, rested and back in the lineup.
Havlat is back and scating well, and healthy. Needs to get in game shape.
Fisher is back, and rested.
Sens have the most goals for.
Sens had the fewest goals against before the Sens top 4 D went down...but are now behind 2 teams or so.
Hasek is still injured. He looks okay in practice, but looks like he'll be ready for the playoffs.
Emery set the all time record for wins in a Month in March (last month).
My point is that the Sens probably the healthiest and most rested team going into round 1. The Sens have counted on Emery since the Olympics and kept the Sens near the top of the East. Yes, the Sens would like Hasek back, but have obviously learned to accept and play well with Emery.
The Sens wont be an easy challenge.
If I were a Habs fan, I'd much rather play Carolina. Much weaker D, and less gifted offensively.
Saying this, I totally respect the Habs. You guys are having an awesome run for sure, and I'd like to wish the best for you. I just think you are over-analyzing the Sens 'health issues.'

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04-18-2006, 12:31 AM
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Dear Habs Fans:
Redden is back, and totally rested.
Chara is back, healthy, and totally rested.
Phillips is now scating, rested and back in the lineup.
Havlat is back and scating well, and healthy. Needs to get in game shape.
Fisher is back, and rested.
Sens have the most goals for.
Sens had the fewest goals against before the Sens top 4 D went down...but are now behind 2 teams or so.
Hasek is still injured. He looks okay in practice, but looks like he'll be ready for the playoffs.
Emery set the all time record for wins in a Month in March (last month).
My point is that the Sens probably the healthiest and most rested team going into round 1. The Sens have counted on Emery since the Olympics and kept the Sens near the top of the East. Yes, the Sens would like Hasek back, but have obviously learned to accept and play well with Emery.
The Sens wont be an easy challenge.
If I were a Habs fan, I'd much rather play Carolina. Much weaker D, and less gifted offensively.
Saying this, I totally respect the Habs. You guys are having an awesome run for sure, and I'd like to wish the best for you. I just think you are over-analyzing the Sens 'health issues.'
You're dreaming. Havlat isn't ready or he would have been back weeks ago to get ready for the playoffs.

Hasek is hurt, sorry. Even if you guys beat us, he's not going to last a whole playoffs. And even when he was healthy, he's not the same goalie (tho he is still very good).

I don't believe that Redden, Chara and Phillips and even Fisher are healthy. I think they're walking wounded.

Face it, you guys aren't 100% (thank god).

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04-18-2006, 12:32 AM
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I'd play Ottawa over Carolina any day...
montreal can never really come together against carolina...
and Eric Cole...scares me... hes a habs killer.... .. along with the whole hurricane squad...
all in all... i just hope montreal is ready for both and comes out with a W

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04-18-2006, 12:34 AM
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I'd play Ottawa over Carolina any day...
montreal can never really come together against carolina...
and Eric Cole...scares me... hes a habs killer.... .. along with the whole hurricane squad...
all in all... i just hope montreal is ready for both and comes out with a W
Eric Cole is out for the year. They replaced him with Recchi. But they haven't been the same team since he went down.

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04-18-2006, 12:36 AM
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You're dreaming. Havlat isn't ready or he would have been back weeks ago to get ready for the playoffs.

Hasek is hurt, sorry. Even if you guys beat us, he's not going to last a whole playoffs. And even when he was healthy, he's not the same goalie (tho he is still very good).

I don't believe that Redden, Chara and Phillips and even Fisher are healthy. I think they're walking wounded.

Face it, you guys aren't 100% (thank god).
Are you kidding me? Fisher has been back for like 2 weeks, Redden was never hurt to begin with, and Chara has been back for over a week as well. Yes, they're all walking wounded.

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04-18-2006, 12:37 AM
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You're dreaming. Havlat isn't ready or he would have been back weeks ago to get ready for the playoffs.

Hasek is hurt, sorry. Even if you guys beat us, he's not going to last a whole playoffs. And even when he was healthy, he's not the same goalie (tho he is still very good).

I don't believe that Redden, Chara and Phillips and even Fisher are healthy. I think they're walking wounded.

Face it, you guys aren't 100% (thank god).
Your right about Hasek hes not playing.

Havlat has been cleared to play and will be suited up for game 1
Chara is healthy and his hand is getting better every day.
Redden is healthy nothing wrong with him (his moms sick) he will be ready for game 1
Fisher has been back for a few games now and is 100% healthy
Phillips has been skating for the last week and a half. Will be ready for game 1

Other then Hasek this teams good to go, if your expecting an injured Sens team you will be sadly dissapointed. But keep your hopes up if you dont believe me, other then Hasek the sens are healthy.

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04-18-2006, 12:41 AM
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Eric Cole is out for the year. They replaced him with Recchi. But they haven't been the same team since he went down.
YOu aRe right.. wow.. totally forgot...
this is wierd... Carolina without THE Eric Cole
and the Sens without THE DOMINATOR

its quite the toss up.....im not even sure anymore...


but i still say ottawa

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04-18-2006, 12:46 AM
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With Ottawa's D almost 100% id prefer Carolina. Hasek is not the backbone of this team, the defense is. They allowed 46 less goals than Carolina and Carolina has allowed 13 more goals than us. I know we went 0-4 against the canes but Theo was god awful in all of his games against them. Cole is out also, in all, Canes for me.

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04-18-2006, 01:55 AM
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Bruins! Oh wait, they're not in the playoffs.

Leafs! Oh wait, they're not in the playoffs.


Ottawa.

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04-18-2006, 02:26 AM
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Dear Habs Fans:
Phillips is now scating, rested and back in the lineup.
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Scating that is gross

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Carolina in the first round, Ottawa in the 2nd

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04-18-2006, 05:50 AM
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Dear Habs Fans:
Redden is back, and totally rested.
Chara is back, healthy, and totally rested.
Phillips is now scating, rested and back in the lineup.
Havlat is back and scating well, and healthy. Needs to get in game shape.
Here's to a real fan who knows the scating habits of his players (altought I shudder to think how you acquired this information)

Here's to seeing the sens scat well and get ousted early this april.

And I'd like to finish this post Triumph style by saying that the sens are a great team.....

"FOR ME TO POOP ON !"


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What does it matter? We are going to get creamed by either.

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Ottawa, to make their playoff curse continue!!

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I don't like our chances against either of them but I guess I'd rather face Ottawa. Not because I think we have a better chance against them but because that series would be a lot more exciting. Two Canadian teams going at it in the playoffs is a lot of fun. And we've kinda built up a little rivarly against them (at least on the boards) and that would be fun.

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It would be fun to create a Montreal-Ottawa rivalty

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if anything, montreal - ottowa will not be boring

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It would be fun to create a Montreal-Ottawa rivalty
My thoughts as well. I think it would give some good hockey. Personally, I'd be real happy if the Habs somehow managed to pass the 2nd round.

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if anything, montreal - ottowa will not be boring
If the regular season is any indication, you are way off.

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04-18-2006, 09:20 AM
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Here are my thoughts on both teams:

Ottawa:

What they have going for them:

- The best defence in the NHL IMO.
- Maybe the best foursome up front with Heatley, Spezza, Alfredsson and Havlat. 4 legit franchise guys.
- Great depth up front as well.
- They can beat you 2-1, 6-1 or 6-5.

What they do not have going for them:

- Goaltending. Emery looks injured and simply mentally exhausted. Hasek will likely not the start the series. Goaltending is KEY.
- Lack of a true #2 center. Smolinski is not the answer and Arnason has dissapointed.
- A history of playoff chokes and scoring droughts.
- Not a lot of success against the Habs.
- Injury to Phillips, he could miss the start.


Carolina:

What they have going for them:

- Maybe the deepest group of offensive forwards in hockey. Staal, Brind'Amour, Weight, Stillman, Cullen, Whitney, Williams, Recchi, Vasicek and maybe Ladd if they use him.
- Insane center depth with Staal, Brind'Amour, Weight and Adams.
- Gerber has had a solid season.
- They don't take many penalties, they are fast, intense and hard working.
- They owned us all season long.

What they do not have going for them:

- A late season slump. They have not played good hockey for awhile now.
- No Erik Cole as he will miss the first 2 rounds.
- A no-name defence that could crack at any time.
- Gerber has let in some awfully soft goals recently.


I'll say it again, not only did Theo hand the Canes plenty of goals, but in our last 3 games against them Markov was not playing. This is a huge factor.

Ottawa scares me, but goaltending is so huge in the post-season. Hasek is a major question mark and we can beat Emery. That said, Carolina is not playing good hockey right now and their defence is exploitable. I keep switching back and forth between who I prefer...

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