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04-18-2006, 11:56 PM
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Bure or Ovechkin

If you had to start a franchise who would start with?
I'd go with Ovechkin because of all the extra things he does not just score thats all bure did score. Also sounds like OA has a better attitude than bure. That's just my opinion.

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04-19-2006, 12:03 AM
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If you had to start a franchise who would start with?
I'd go with Ovechkin because of all the extra things he does not just score thats all **** did score. Also sounds like OA has a better attitude than ****. That's just my opinion.

bure is my favorite player of all time and always will be...so I'll go with bure. I've never seen someone so explosive...but god...Ovechkin is one amazing hockey player. They are very similar. I just wish bure had some knees left.

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04-19-2006, 12:10 PM
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Ovechkin by a mile in my books. He is much more of a complete player than Bure ever was.

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04-19-2006, 07:44 PM
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Ovechkin by a mile in my books. He is much more of a complete player than Bure ever was.

exactly people need to look past just flashy goals

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04-19-2006, 07:46 PM
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Ovechkin by 8 miles in my books.

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04-19-2006, 07:52 PM
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Bure was never that great of a franchise player. Ovechkin by far because he brings more to the game than just goals.

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04-19-2006, 08:14 PM
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Bure still is my favorite player of all time, but I have to say Ovechkin.

Bure would kill you on the scoreboard. Ovechkin can do that and then give your best player a concussion with an open ice hit.

Ovechkin seems to endear himself better to his teammates so far, whereas Bure rubbed some people the wrong way (for good reason or not).

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04-19-2006, 08:16 PM
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I'll say Ovechkin based on potential, but he still has a long way to go to accomplish what Bure did as a career.

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04-19-2006, 08:21 PM
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Ovechkin, no question. Bure couldn't hit ....and hung out to cherry pick passes a lot of the time. Ovechkin also has a really good attitude.

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04-19-2006, 08:22 PM
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We're already having this discussion? Ovechkin is a 20-year-old rookie. Yes, he had one of the best rookie seasons ever, was absolutely fantastic, but let's wait three years, preferably five, before mentioning him in the same breath as the Russian Rocket. (And I am not a Bure fan. He might be my least favourite player of all-time).

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It's funny how quickly players are forgotten.

Thornton greater than Lindros too, right?

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It's funny how quickly players are forgotten.

Thornton greater than Lindros too, right?
Actually, I think one could make a very convincing argument for this. Lindros was phenomenal in his prime, but what Thornton has managed to become this year is basically what people wanted out of Lindros. That is a big physical presence who knows when to pick his spots and produce a ridiculous number of points, stay in the lineup for the whole season and carry his team to success. The only knocks so far on Thornton is that he isn't nearly as good a scorer, and he hasn't been to the finals like Lindros has.

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04-20-2006, 12:37 AM
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Bure still is my favorite player of all time, but I have to say Ovechkin.

Bure would kill you on the scoreboard. Ovechkin can do that and then give your best player a concussion with an open ice hit.

Ovechkin seems to endear himself better to his teammates so far, whereas Bure rubbed some people the wrong way (for good reason or not).
I have to agree with you 100%. Bure is actually a very nice person ( at least to me ) and will always be my all time favorite player but I too think Ovechkin will have it all and then some.

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04-20-2006, 12:38 AM
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Thornton can't hold a candle to Lindros, even after his year this season.

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04-20-2006, 02:19 PM
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In the new NHL?

If i was assured his knees would not collapse, Bure.

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04-20-2006, 02:34 PM
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New NHL: bure....he scored 59 goals in the deadpuck era.

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04-20-2006, 02:34 PM
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Thornton can't hold a candle to Lindros, even after his year this season.
Not sure of that. When you talk of Eric Lindros you have to consider the complete package....Carl Lindros! HUGE NEGATIVE!

Locker room problems, high salary demands, always injured, concussion syndrome...

Who wants all that baggage when it comes to a player? But I have to admit he was ultra dominant when he was pre-concussions and healthy.

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04-20-2006, 02:42 PM
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I have to go with Alexander Ovechkin because he is more of a complete player than Pavel Bure.

He can pass, score, and hit.

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04-20-2006, 02:48 PM
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Bure for sure.

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04-20-2006, 03:24 PM
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Not sure of that. When you talk of Eric Lindros you have to consider the complete package....Carl Lindros! HUGE NEGATIVE!

Locker room problems, high salary demands, always injured, concussion syndrome...

Who wants all that baggage when it comes to a player? But I have to admit he was ultra dominant when he was pre-concussions and healthy.
We are talking on the ice here.

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04-20-2006, 03:24 PM
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Thornton can't hold a candle to Lindros, even after his year this season.

I am very surprised by this comment.

Hold a candle to him? Come on, I would take Thornton over Eric anyday, both at their prime Lindros was a much better scorer but that is it. Thornton plays with his size better, he is not a wuss, he is a better player. At least in my opinion.

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04-20-2006, 03:32 PM
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You don't remember Lindros in his prime if you think Thornton is better.

Lindros took his team to a cup final, completely dominated the NHL for 3-4 years, and was the most physically intimidating player in the league.

Lindros in his prime was a mean, dominating forward who could score like no other. He was also an underrated playmaker.

Thornton needs to play like this for 2-3 more years at least.

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04-20-2006, 04:13 PM
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Thornton needs to play like this for 2-3 more years at least.
I'd say that's entirely possible provided he doesn't get 10-20 concussions.

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04-20-2006, 06:15 PM
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Thornton plays with his size better, he is not a wuss, he is a better player.
Did you ever see Lindros play during the 1990's?

He was FAR more physical than Thornton. As someone alluded to earlier, he was probably the most physically intimidating forward in the league.

Even in his post-concussion stage, he still crushed Joe Thorntons face in that fight.

Not to mention the playoffs.

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04-20-2006, 06:16 PM
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People really, really have not watched hockey if they think Thornton in his prime > Lindros in his prime. Thornton has a few years to go, but even if he puts up similar seasons, Lindros dominated the NHL.

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