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04-26-2006, 07:01 AM
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Neil a Turtle?

I don't think so. I don't think those two words have ever been said in the same sentence before. Maybe like " Niel pass me the turtle soup" or something like that. Theguy gets taken down when he didn't even see it coming, he didn't have a chance. But it got us a 7 min power play. Neil would have fought him, but it worked out better this way.

I only posted this because of all the bashers on the TSN.ca board. Silly people. Wait till game 4.

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04-26-2006, 07:30 AM
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It was 5-2 and Tampa had all the momentum. A comeback was not out of the question and Neil did exactly what his job is: kill their momentum. The 7 min PP won us the game.

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Neil turtled and is was exactly the right things to do at the time.

Great move by a smart player who was putting the team first.

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Definite turtle.

Timely turtle.

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If to turtle describes an action of a player-dropping down to the knees, and covering the head- Neil unselfishly turtled for the benefit of the team.

However, many comments on the EC board labeling Neil a turtle are implying that he was afraid of Dingman, couldn't finish what he started and is ultimately a coward. I don't agree with this. Neil made a calculation not to fight for the benefit of the team and plus he was jumped. He is not afraid of Dingman. They have fought in the past, and both won a decision in their two bouts in 2003/2004

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In his post-game comments, straight talking Torterella acknowledged Neil made a smart move to draw a penalty and called out Dingman.


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04-26-2006, 08:05 AM
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Sure.

He turtled.

Is he like Denis Gauthier who turtles EVERY TIME, obviously not.

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04-26-2006, 08:27 AM
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I have not seen the fight but I never heard of Neil backing off a fight if he did not have a good reason to do so. If it is like some of you have said it was a smart move.

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Yup he turtled!

Been even Tortelli said good move.

Good on Neil

Plus, how do we know that in the 2nd intermission Murray said - No fighting. Take the drop. Who knows...

People are going to make fun of Neil for it. So be it. Those people are probably not in the playoffs.

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04-26-2006, 09:34 AM
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I expect that Neil will eventually go a round with Dingman, but it will be at a time when it doesn't cost his team.

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He did turtle, yes. Should he have? Of course we won the game because of it. Probably the only time he would ever turtle.

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He definitely turtled. Tampa has no choice now, they must chase him around the ice now and take many undisciplined penalties trying to get back at him.

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04-26-2006, 10:21 AM
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I agree that he turtled, but that it was a great time to do so.

The best was his post game interview were the reporter asked him about it, paraphrased as such: "What happened? Well they got a 7 minute penalty, we scored 2 goals, and that was pretty much all she wrote!!"

Sorry, the quote is not perfect, but I was imbibbing throughout the course of the game, and therefore my memory at the end of it was less than stellar

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Looked to me like Digman knocked him off his feet... and Neil tried to throw a punch as he was falling, but what more could he do?

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I agree that he turtled, but that it was a great time to do so.

The best was his post game interview were the reporter asked him about it, paraphrased as such: "What happened? Well they got a 7 minute penalty, we scored 2 goals, and the rest was history!!"

Sorry, the quote is not perfect, but I was imbibbing throughout the course of the game, and therefore my memory at the end of it was less than stellar
Fixed it for you now!!

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04-26-2006, 10:36 AM
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Looked to me like Digman knocked him off his feet... and Neil tried to throw a punch as he was falling, but what more could he do?
LOL, nice try.

The Neil I know would have fought his way back to his feet if he was seriously concerned with fighting, instead of just lying there and taking it.

Neil lured him in and suckered him, hook, line and sinker.

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Fixed it for you now!!

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Question

I'm listening to Team 1200

A caller made a point. Chris Neil pointed at the goalie during the game , as if he's calling him out.

Neiler knew that he was going to get called out at center ice for a fight.

What do you think? Do you think that's a bit classless of Neil? I mean, if a Leafs fan did it, we would expect them to step up and fight.

I'm just putting this out there, as I thought it was a good point. I still think he played it smart, but Neiler knew he was getting called out.

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I'm listening to Team 1200

A caller made a point. Chris Neil pointed at the goalie during the game , as if he's calling him out.

Neiler knew that he was going to get called out at center ice for a fight.

What do you think? Do you think that's a bit classless of Neil? I mean, if a Leafs fan did it, we would expect them to step up and fight.

I'm just putting this out there, as I thought it was a good point. I still think he played it smart, but Neiler knew he was getting called out.
I agree 100% with that but Neil got this team a 7 minute PP. He did what was best for the team and at the end of the day that is all that matters.

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04-26-2006, 11:00 AM
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Of course it was classless. I don't think anyone would disagree.

You don't always win hockey games in the playoffs by being a nice guy.

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I think that Neil turtle because Dingman got him out of balance and having already drop his glove .

He knew that by keeping his glove and not fighting since he was already in trouble out of balance he could do more damage then fightng back.

I wouldn t be surprise if he fight Dingman in the next game .But yes he took the shot for his team , he can clearely go against Dingman in normal time , but by not going it s help the team last night .

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04-26-2006, 12:18 PM
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Here's the background.

Neil was pissed off at a Tampa player (Fedotenko?) for an allegedly 'running' incident against Emery (which was really more of a 'get bumped into the goalie and then put my stick beside his head and wave my stick around, bumping into his neck'-incident). Neil charged into the crease and threw a couple of punches. Neil got a penalty for charging that player.

On his way to the penalty box, Neil is yapping at Burke that he's next, implying that if it's open season on goaltenders then Tampa can expect to pay a price too.

After the game Neil is asked about this and reveals that he was warned by the refs after threatening Burke and stayed out of the crease from that point on.

Some Tampa players react to Neil's threats to Burke, and man-handling of Fedotenko, by targeting him for retaliation. Ottawa wins.

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04-26-2006, 12:45 PM
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Deserves a repost. I'm guessing this is where the Neil and Burke dispute began.

Lightning goalie Sean Burke said that as he skated to the bench during a break, he was squirted with water from the Senators' bench. Burke said he faked retaliating with his stick.


http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/26/Li...er_Dingm.shtml

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Deserves a repost. I'm guessing this is where the Neil and Burke dispute began.

Lightning goalie Sean Burke said that as he skated to the bench during a break, he was squirted with water from the Senators' bench. Burke said he faked retaliating with his stick.


http://www.sptimes.com/2006/04/26/Li...er_Dingm.shtml

What I find odd is what Burke said........

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"He was trying to set the tone for the rest of the series," Burke said of Dingman. "He just didn't get Neil to fight. We have to back Dinger. We know how much he cares. It didn't work out in that situation, but no one is saying that was a dumb thing to do."
Isn't that what Tort said?

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Neil turtled and is was exactly the right things to do at the time.

Great move by a smart player who was putting the team first.
Also, the guy went at him from behind and got him in a partial headlock right from the start....kind of hard to fight behind your back.

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Of course it was classless. I don't think anyone would disagree.

You don't always win hockey games in the playoffs by being a nice guy.
something else that has changed in this team for the better.

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