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04-28-2006, 08:11 PM
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possible NYR/Chicago

To Chicago: Jarko Immonen and 2006 1st round pick (21)

To NYR: 2006 1st round pick (3rd)


Chicago fans Immonen is a highly thought of center. #2 or #3 ranking on the rangers prospect board.

Ranger fans, the #3 pick could help us get that franchise center we need so bad. Though Immonen is good, and is a center, is he a franchise center.

ps: how does it sound, already having marc staal and possibly jordan staal on the same team.


Any considerations? What do you all think? Anything More or Less?

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04-28-2006, 08:14 PM
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We'll stay at #3 and draft our own potential franchise centerman. We need one badly and isn't worth trading out of the top 3 for immonen and NYR 1st.

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I like Jarkko's game, and we still do have a first round pick, but we move down a whole helluva lotta spots to do it. What about Prucha and a 3rd for the #3 pick?

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04-28-2006, 09:04 PM
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pick up a center in the UFA market, you got cap room, and besides you already have franchise players in Ruuto, Barker, and Bourque.

Not Prucha, but how about your choice of ozolinsh and/or poti both vetern D men.

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pick up a center in the UFA market, you got cap room, and besides you already have franchise players in Ruuto, Barker, and Bourque.

Not Prucha, but how about your choice of ozolinsh and/or poti both vetern D men.
I'll assume you are joking with this bit.

I don't think these two teams are great trading partners to be honest. I don't think the Rangers are in dire need of that "franchise" center the third pick might bring. We are far better off keeping Immonen, Prucha, and our own first. Not to mention a Mr Brandon Dubinsky who looks quite good as well.

Chicago fans have a lot in the prospect cupboard in terms of defense so trading that top 3 pick is foolish for them. They have a greater % of drafting a talented forward at that spot and developing their own talent.

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I was joking, but they are vets, and who knows what a new team can bring.

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04-28-2006, 09:56 PM
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Bourque is not a franchise player, not even close.

Ruutu is arguable but question marks still surround his durability. Personally, I think he'll be fine.

Barker will likely turn out to be a good dman but labeling him as a franchise player is only reasonable if he meets the expectations set on him during the 2004 draft and then some.

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04-29-2006, 04:57 AM
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Oh god....I've had just about enough of these bs trade proposal deals.....New York has nothing that we need.....the only way any team is getting our pick is if they highly over pay...and not many teams have enough to do a trade like that in no way do the Rangers.....

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Vancouver(Bertuzzi AND Bourdon would have to come the other way)

Ottawa ( One of...Havlat, Spezza or Heatley and something small....I guess we could throw in I dunno Keith or Bell.)

Colorado .

X F'ing D at whoever said Bourque is a franchise player......

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I think you are vastly overrating the pick Stuy.

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04-29-2006, 11:02 AM
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I don't think he's overrating the pick at all. I think in three years the guy picked will be the Hawks best player. You don't go throwing that away.

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04-30-2006, 08:36 AM
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Vancouver(Bertuzzi AND Bourdon would have to come the other way)
k well no thanks then, Bourdon was a top ten pick in a much deeper draft and bert still got over 70 points in a very bad year. I do think your overvauling the pick, but in the cap age maybe it should be i dont know, all i do know is that Bourdon is untouchable.

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04-30-2006, 05:32 PM
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No one is ever untouchable....ever.

And all the talk in Vancouver has been trading Bertuzzi which is why I said him...

Trust me Bourdon is being overrated a big deal by you guys...he was maybe the 5th or 4th D-man in the World Juniors...while Cam Barker was easily 1st.

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a stupid trade.
we're not giving up our pick for anything.

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No one is ever untouchable....ever.

And all the talk in Vancouver has been trading Bertuzzi which is why I said him...

Trust me Bourdon is being overrated a big deal by you guys...he was maybe the 5th or 4th D-man in the World Juniors...while Cam Barker was easily 1st.
Why do you want Bourdon then?

I think Prucha and NYR's 1st for CHI's 1st is fair. But thats something Slats hopefully wouldn't pull the trigger on...

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06-20-2006, 12:09 PM
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No way

You talk about getting a franchise center and just want to give us a top scoring euro and your late 1st?


We have TONS of top scoring euros better then Immonen... Kontiola, Nordqvist and Salemlainen are some of the best in europe

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06-20-2006, 12:57 PM
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No way this would happen, and no way Prucha would go. We give this kid a chance and he turns int oa really skilled player that can work for us for a long time, and you turn and trade him away for a draft pick, a player who has not played one game in the NHL yet??? Do you know how bad the Rangers are at drafting?? lol

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To Chicago: Jarko Immonen and 2006 1st round pick (21)

To NYR: 2006 1st round pick (3rd)


Chicago fans Immonen is a highly thought of center. #2 or #3 ranking on the rangers prospect board.

Ranger fans, the #3 pick could help us get that franchise center we need so bad. Though Immonen is good, and is a center, is he a franchise center.

ps: how does it sound, already having marc staal and possibly jordan staal on the same team.


Any considerations? What do you all think? Anything More or Less?
Switch Immonen to Montoya. Montoya is from Illinois and they can use a goalie prospect.

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Switch Immonen to Montoya. Montoya is from Illinois and they can use a goalie prospect.
We need a center prospect more.

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06-20-2006, 03:17 PM
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We need a center prospect more.

Bruce Graham?? Dubinsky and Immonen are not available and Rangers are short of centre prospects in the NHL next 2 years, they got few in juniors but none are top liners. Dubinsky and Immonen are closest to that and to make the NHL and wont be moved.

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06-20-2006, 03:46 PM
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Bruce Graham?? Dubinsky and Immonen are not available and Rangers are short of centre prospects in the NHL next 2 years, they got few in juniors but none are top liners. Dubinsky and Immonen are closest to that and to make the NHL and wont be moved.
Center prospect as in Toews, Staal, Backstrom... ie. keeping the pick

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06-21-2006, 09:04 AM
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Hawks stay were they are and could still get a good pick

I am not sold on the player mentioned

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I'll assume you are joking with this bit.

I don't think these two teams are great trading partners to be honest. I don't think the Rangers are in dire need of that "franchise" center the third pick might bring. We are far better off keeping Immonen, Prucha, and our own first. Not to mention a Mr Brandon Dubinsky who looks quite good as well.

Chicago fans have a lot in the prospect cupboard in terms of defense so trading that top 3 pick is foolish for them. They have a greater % of drafting a talented forward at that spot and developing their own talent.
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Actually the #1 need for NYr is a Franchise Center....

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