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05-02-2006, 08:02 PM
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Turco would be a huge upgrade over Auld or Cloutier.
I don't know.

Given the teams they were on, Auld has similar numbers to Turco this season:
Auld: 67 GP, 33 W, 26 L, 6 OTL, 2.94 GAA, 1749 SVS, 902 SV%, 0 SO
Turco: 68 GP, 41 W, 19 L, 5 OTL, 2.55 GAA, 1458 SVS, 898 Sv%, 3 SO

In the 03/04 season (Cloutier vs. Turco)
Cloutier: 60 GP, 33 W, 21 L, 6 T, 2 OT, 2.27 GAA, 1402 SVS, 914 SV%, 5 SO
Turco: 73 GP, 37 W, 21 L, 13 T, 0 OTL, 1.98 GAA, 1504 SVS, 913 SV%, 9 SO

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05-02-2006, 08:17 PM
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Turco can move the puck and that does help afree flowing offense. Should Dallas get rid of him, I will miss that part ofhis game.

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05-02-2006, 08:29 PM
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Turco would definitely be an upgrade over Cloutier and/or Auld, but is he worth the risk of taking on his contract? Methinks not. Not to mention he's just as big of a question mark in the playoffs as Cloutier/Auld are.

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05-02-2006, 08:30 PM
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Turco choked in the playoff.

so it wouldnt work for a team looking for a playoff goalie ...like Vancouver...

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05-02-2006, 08:34 PM
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Roloson would also be a good option for the Leafs.
Roloson staying in emdonton

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05-02-2006, 08:37 PM
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It will be hard to replace Ed Belfour's playoff play. If Turco can't do it, Auld definitely can't.

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05-03-2006, 02:14 AM
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Canucks will not inquire in Turco. Plus with a new system intact, Canucks will like to see Aulds true force.

Anyways, if we were looking for a goalie, J.S Gigure, will be on top of the list. Turco will be no diffrent then Cloutier when it comes to playoffs. If there is one for VAncouver.

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05-03-2006, 10:41 AM
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I don't know.

Given the teams they were on, Auld has similar numbers to Turco this season:
Auld: 67 GP, 33 W, 26 L, 6 OTL, 2.94 GAA, 1749 SVS, 902 SV%, 0 SO
Turco: 68 GP, 41 W, 19 L, 5 OTL, 2.55 GAA, 1458 SVS, 898 Sv%, 3 SO

In the 03/04 season (Cloutier vs. Turco)
Cloutier: 60 GP, 33 W, 21 L, 6 T, 2 OT, 2.27 GAA, 1402 SVS, 914 SV%, 5 SO
Turco: 73 GP, 37 W, 21 L, 13 T, 0 OTL, 1.98 GAA, 1504 SVS, 913 SV%, 9 SO
Still looks like a big upgrade to me. The only stat that Turco is behind Auld in is SV%. Everything else is certainly in Turco's favour. As far as Turco vs Cloutier in the 03/04 season, Turco again has much better stats particularily in the GAA, SO and ties department.

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05-03-2006, 10:49 AM
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To Tampa Bay:

Marty Turco, 3rd round pick

To Dallas:

Frederik Modin, 2nd round pick
I read a proposal elsewhere (Buccigross on ESPN, maybe?) that suggested a sign-and-trade TB/Dallas deal: Brad Richards for Turco.

I think if Dallas adds in a decent roster player to give Tampa a bit of depth, this would be something I'd consider if I was Jay Feaster.

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There is no reason to trade Turco during the offseason. His value is at its lowest right now. If he jumps out of the gates to a hot start at the begining of the season you trade him then, when his value is at its highest.

Also, you can't trade him in conference.

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05-03-2006, 12:54 PM
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There is no reason to trade Turco during the offseason. His value is at its lowest right now. If he jumps out of the gates to a hot start at the begining of the season you trade him then, when his value is at its highest.

Also, you can't trade him in conference.
His NTC kicks in July 1.

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05-03-2006, 01:04 PM
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Heika the well connected writer for Dallas suggests Turco can be dealt by July 1. Supposibly TB(St. Louis), Van(bertuzzi) Chi(Khabi) and Tor(Tucker+) may be interested. Hedberg could be resigned possibly. Not sure any scenario is a good one for the stars although a Tucker + a prime pick/Prospect and getting Khabi fora fin or two in adump may work. Stars supposibly fear a merry go round at goalie. Detroit is in the same position but Howard may be fairly close in goal IMO.

He also suggests Guerin may be kept as they are not too tight on the cap and they would have ton of flexibility in 07-08 if they kept him and that Arnott is likly gone.
Its going to be an interesting market for goalies in the offseason. All signs point to the Oilers locking up Roloson, and Biron, Nabakov, and now possibly Turco available, and Legace and Huet hitting the open market. My guess is that Dallas is married to Turco as its doubtful they would get a fair return. With the teams that need goaltending (Detroit, LA, Phoenix if cujo retires, St. Louis, Tampa, Toronto and Atlanta (maybe))

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Turco choked in the playoff.

so it wouldnt work for a team looking for a playoff goalie ...like Vancouver...
The rub is that Turco would have likely gotten them into the playoffs this year.

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05-03-2006, 01:18 PM
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The rub is that Turco would have likely gotten them into the playoffs this year.
The same could be said for Cloutier if he wasn't injured.

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Any interest on the Stars part for Marc Denis?

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I read a proposal elsewhere (Buccigross on ESPN, maybe?) that suggested a sign-and-trade TB/Dallas deal: Brad Richards for Turco.

I think if Dallas adds in a decent roster player to give Tampa a bit of depth, this would be something I'd consider if I was Jay Feaster.
Conn Smythe winner for perennial playoff underachiever? Why on earth would Jay Feaster consider trading a young star for a young flop?

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Conn Smythe winner for perennial playoff underachiever? Why on earth would Jay Feaster consider trading a young star for a young flop?
Because he can't afford to keep said Conn Smythe winner due to his RFA status and his team's cap situation

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Because he can't afford to keep said Conn Smythe winner due to his RFA status and his team's cap situation
He could do better than that.

Reminds me of StLouis unloading Turek.

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He could do better than that.

Reminds me of StLouis unloading Turek.
Who?

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05-03-2006, 03:05 PM
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I read a proposal elsewhere (Buccigross on ESPN, maybe?) that suggested a sign-and-trade TB/Dallas deal: Brad Richards for Turco.

I think if Dallas adds in a decent roster player to give Tampa a bit of depth, this would be something I'd consider if I was Jay Feaster.
Guys Dallas could lose: Klemm signed for one year at 1.1 , Ninimaa (take him plz), I would not be suprised if Kaps or Miets would be available either just to change the chemistry

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Turco and Jokinen
4
Luongo

Luongo is a much better goalie than Turco and the Panthers already dont want to pay Luongo the type of money that Turco is getting.

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- Trade Turco for StLouis or Richards or Datsiuk
- Then sign Huet
- Buyout the Guerin's contract
- Then sign Elias (hard I know) or Weight.


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Still looks like a big upgrade to me. The only stat that Turco is behind Auld in is SV%. Everything else is certainly in Turco's favour. As far as Turco vs Cloutier in the 03/04 season, Turco again has much better stats particularily in the GAA, SO and ties department.
The difference between Turco & Auld's stats is that SV% is about the best stat that indicates how good a goalie is. Wins and goals against are good indicators of what kind of team a goalie is on. However, no matter where a goalie is they should have a good SV% in order to be considered "good." Luongo is on a horrible Florida team and sports a poor 2.97 GAA, but does that make him a bad goalie? No, he is insanely good because he has a solid 914 SV% on a bad team.

Basically, Turco isn't that big of an upgrade over Auld/Cloutier.

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05-05-2006, 04:18 PM
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So Turco doesn't carry the Stars to a playoff win and now he's terrible and should be unloaded as soon as possible? What a joke. That writer makes Chicken Little look like a cautious optimist. (And, yes, I realize Turco lost in the playoffs before, but let's not get carried away with the scape-goating.)
If you follow that writer's logic, the Rangers should get rid of Lundqvist because he's clearly terrible, too. And Kiprusoff must have just been a one-year wonder, because the Flames lost in the first round. And screw regular season success - it doesn't mean anything. Wow, the people who picked the Vezina candidates must be pretty embarrassed now, not to mention the Team Canada people who picked Turco. I'm sure they all realize now that all three of those guys have no talent because their teams lost in the first round.
And, of course, the best yet - bring in Khabby. Chicago was TERRIBLE this year, but he won a Cup so he couldn't have been to blame in any way. Plus he makes more money so that's attractive, too. Or maybe even Osgood?!? Yeah, he's defininitely an upgrade on Turco.

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- Trade Turco for StLouis or Richards or Datsiuk
- Then sign Huet
- Buyout the Guerin's contract
- Then sign Elias (hard I know) or Weight.

Huet aint going anywhere(hopefully), both parties said theres no reason for him not to come back. Last time they said that was for Kovalev.

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