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05-05-2006, 03:22 PM
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Carbo loves Koivu, wants Markov to be more involved.

Villeneuve is interviewing Carbo right now and Guy said that he loves Koivu and he has a huge impact on the team. He also said that he wants all Habs to play like Koivu and his contract is justified. However, he didn't seem to like Markov that much. He said that Andrei speaks english a little better than 4 years ago, but could de better effort to learn the language and wants him to be more into the team.


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That doesn't sound like he doesn't like Markov, more like he wants him more involved (which is a good idea).

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I think you speculate too much and should change your title.

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I think you speculate too much and should change your title.
i view this as an excellent thing carbo knows markov is going to be involved and IS one of the backbones of this team for years, so carbo wants to build a tight community within the locker room of our "for sure" players.

carbo wants markov to be more involved

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You know, last night they were talking on 110%(yes I know) about trading Markov if and only if we sign a guy like Chara or Redden in order to get the top line foward we desperetly need since Markov is the one that has the best value. I tought it was the stupidiest thing I've heard. But after thinking about it, it made more and more sence. Now the chances of MTL to sign Chara or Redden are slim, Markov being traded is slim but it could happen. But I would trade Souray if we sing Chara since we would lack too much speed if not (We would look like Philly) and Markov by singing Redden since we would lack too much toughness and physsical aspect + size.

What you guys think of this?

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Villeneuve and friends pretty much want to run Markov out of town, it's getting pathetic. The way he asked the question to Guy was to set up a negative answer. But Gui then added at the end of his answer, ''Zubov is the same way, and he's one of the best D's out there.''

3-11-1 without Markov this year. 39-20-8 with Markov in the lineup. That's all I am going to say.

The ONLY way ANY thought of trading Markov should be considered is if we do sign a Chara/Redden and we can get a stud center for Markov.

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You know, last night they were talking on 110%(yes I know) about trading Markov if and only if we sign a guy like Chara or Redden in order to get the top line foward we desperetly need since Markov is the one that has the best value. I tought it was the stupidiest thing I've heard. But after thinking about it, it made more and more sence. Now the chances of MTL to sign Chara or Redden are slim, Markov being traded is slim but it could happen. But I would trade Souray if we sing Chara since we would lack too much speed if not (We would look like Philly) and Markov by singing Redden since we would lack too much toughness and physsical aspect + size.

What you guys think of this?
those guys at 110% sure sound like idiots,

markov is not getting traded, just becuase carbo said "he should make a greater effort" is being critical, carbo is trying to motivate to get the team to gel.

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those guys at 110% sure sound like idiots,

markov is not getting traded, just becuase carbo said "he should make a greater effort" is being critical, carbo is trying to motivate to get the team to gel.
Like said. If we sing Redden and can get a stud 1st liner in return, you would not do it?

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Markov is top 15 d-man in the NHL and makes under 2M$. Geting another top d-man would only makes us competitive. Getting another top d-man and getting rid of Markow will actually create a bigger hole to fill ; an affordable reliable d-man.

It's the same reasoning people have with Koivu. We should get a better center and trade him but then we will need a better center again.

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Like said. If we sing Redden and can get a stud 1st liner in return, you would not do it?
i see where your comming from

but no i wouldnt i'd look to improve our franchise involving markov within it.

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Like said. If we sing Redden and can get a stud 1st liner in return, you would not do it?
Your first instinct was right, it would be the stupidest thing you could do. It would be a Mike Milbury move. Like trading Luongo so you can get Dipietro. There are no guarantees Redden will be any good, while we know exactly what Markov can do. When you have grown players, you keep them.

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Your first instinct was right, it would be the stupidest thing you could do. It would be a Mike Milbury move. Like trading Luongo so you can get Dipietro. There are no guarantees Redden will be any good, while we know exactly what Markov can do. When you have grown players, you keep them.
Exactly. Why in hell would you trade Markov. He's the closest thing to a superstar that system have groomed in the past 20 years.

He's a Habs. Hopefully for a long long time.

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How trading the only great puck moving d-men we have will permit us to have better transition between d-men and forwards.....Sorry don't get it.

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How trading the only great puck moving d-men we have will permit us to have better transition between d-men and forwards.....Sorry don't get it.
It's the reverse knowledge we use on hfboards to hypothetically improve the team.

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It's a motivation thing, everybody knows that Markov can play better than last season. In the playoffs he didn't even did a bodycheck. 0 in 6 games. Markov can hit, but he don't do it. If Carbo can motivate Markov to throw some hit he will only be a better player.

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Markov is top 15 d-man in the NHL and makes under 2M$. Geting another top d-man would only makes us competitive. Getting another top d-man and getting rid of Markow will actually create a bigger hole to fill ; an affordable reliable d-man.

It's the same reasoning people have with Koivu. We should get a better center and trade him but then we will need a better center again.
Spoken like a true prodigy!

Markov didn't play too well in the playoffs because he was clearly not 100% physically.

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I love both of them.

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It was more of an issue of how he isn't very close with the team... He doesn't share opinions, he doesn't speak a lot etc. That's what Yvon Pedenault was saying, anyway. He's a very reserved guy and it would be better (and probably make him an even better player) if he was more open his teammates. Yvon even speculated that Markov doesn't trust anyone and that the Markov family still has the Soviet Union in the back of their heads.

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It was more of an issue of how he isn't very close with the team... He doesn't share opinions, he doesn't speak a lot etc. That's what Yvon Pedenault was saying, anyway. He's a very reserved guy and it would be better (and probably make him an even better player) if he was more open his teammates. Yvon even speculated that Markov doesn't trust anyone and that the Markov family still has the Soviet Union in the back of their heads.


When did he say that?

Quite funny if it's true.

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I love both of them.

Can we stop with the Brokeback Mountains comments ? First, the thread title, now this one. It's not soccer here.

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So the boobies on 11% are making waves again?

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When did he say that?

Quite funny if it's true.

During the Sports 30 magazine at 6 (not sure if he repeated it in the actual sports 30 at 6:30/later edition).

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Frankly I like Markov, he has talent but they`ve been ringing our ears for years that we have to be patient, he as the potential to be a superstar defenseman etc...Personaly I think it`s Malakhov all over again. Above average but no quite amongst the elite, lack of character, sort-of a loner personality....

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Trading Markov?

He's the new whipping boy for the french media I guess, because everyone outside of Montreal wouldn't even consider such a thing. The guy played 66 games this year, and i can honestly say that he was our best defensman for about 60 of those games, even when Markov isn't playing at 100% (like in the playoffs) he's still better and more steady than anyone we have.

We have a tendency to think the grass is greener on the other side, that's not always the case.

Comparing him to Malakhov is ridiculous as well IMO, while Markov is a reserved person, I never question his dedication to the team or his willingness to do his part. I'm happy Carbonneau brought up the Zubov 'comparison', that tells me they realize just how good he is, and how great he can be.

When Montreal improves the talent around guys like Kovalev, Koivu, Markov...they'll all be that much better for it.

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Frankly I like Markov, he has talent but they`ve been ringing our ears for years that we have to be patient, he as the potential to be a superstar defenseman etc...Personaly I think it`s Malakhov all over again. Above average but no quite amongst the elite, lack of character, sort-of a loner personality....
He cant be Malakhov, he's already had a season better then any of Malakhov. Seriously, sometimes its ridiculous, one little comment and suddenly we forget everything Markov did. The guy has been easily a top 15 defensemen this year, if thats not elite ntohing is. The record without him speaks for itself. He's our MVP and our franchise player, one of the only guys who's been improving by giant leaps every year. Lack of character? Please.

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