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05-08-2006, 11:24 AM
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Extensive Flyers FA wish list by position

This was my best attempt at a list taylor made for the Flyers and their needs this offseason. That is why I only hand picked a few guys at center, and let a guy like Chara off the list. Please feel free to give an input and argue as you must.

I will sticky this when it falls down to page 2, that way people can look back at this when considering offseason plans/ideas.



Defense
(We will need to sign AT LEAST 1 top four defensemen, and possibly two guys in the top 6, and a 7th D. The obvious objective here is to get more mobile, and better on the PP.)

Niklas Lidstrom D 36 - Best of the best, will stay in Detroit or retire to Sweden imo.
Wade Redden D 29 - Should be our top target in FA.
Marek Zidlicky D 29 - RE-SIGNED BY NASHVILLE 5/8
Bryan McCabe D 31 - Intriguing, likely to stay in Toronto though.
Ed Jovanovski D 30 - I fear he will cost too much, love his game though.
Kenny Jonsson D 32 - Very underrated player likely coming back to the NHL.
Jaroslav Spacek D 32 - Really boosted Edmonton's PP.
Joe Corvo D 29 - Younger FA, up and comer.
Frantisek Kaberle D 32 - The defintion of solid.
Niclas Havelid D 33 - See Kaberle
Danny Markov D 30 If not for constanr injuries would be higher. Shouldn't have left.
Pavel Kubina D 29 - Not a big fan. Inconsistent, not overly mobile.
Nolan Baumgartner D 30 - One year wonder? If not, good second pair guy/PP Specialist.
Brian Leetch D 38 - Third pair/PP specialist guy only, and on the cheap as well.
Karlis Skrastins D 32 - Rock steady guy who hasn't missed game in 4 seasons.
Tom Poti D 29 - Soft and inconsistent, can skate and play the PP though.
Mark Eaton D 29 - Very decent all around third pair guy.
Radoslav Suchy D 30 - See Eaton
Andrei Zyuzin D 28 - Sea Eaton


Wing
(We need a skilled winger to play along with Umberger and Carter. Other than that we should be fine at wing, although adding another guy who is fast and score about 15 goals for the third line wouldn't be a bad idea is possible.)

Patrik Elias LW 30 - Pipe Dream
Maxim Afinogenov RW 27 - Hate him, but he'd be great with Umberger and Carter
Sergei Samsonov LW 27 - Inconsistent but would also go very nicely with the kids.
Jean-Pierre Dumont RW 28 - Consistent 20+ goal guy with speed. Hate him too.
Petr Sykora RW 32 - Very fast, good hands, getting older though.
Anson Carter RW 32 - Pure goal scorer with speed who bounced back nicely this year.
Jamie Langenbrunner RW 31 - Fast, gritty, solid. I love the way he plays the game.
Mark Parrish RW 29 - Consistent 25 goal scorer.
Brendan Shanahan LW 37 - I love Shanny but he is too old. Probably stays in Detroit.
Martin Straka LW/C 35 - Too old, but a nice playmaker. Health concerns as well.
Teemu Selanne RW 36 - I don't expect him to duplicate this season, and he'll stay a Duck.
Jochen Hecht LW 29 - Nice player. Can't stay healthy though or he'd be higher on the list.
Geoff Sanderson LW 34 - Speedy, can score goals, getting up there though.
Peter Bondra RW 38 - Too old, but he'd be nice on the PP.
Jeff Friesen LW 30 - Could be had cheap. Fast as hell, needs to regain his scoring touch.
Jan Bulis LW/C 26 - Young FA. Fast, good for 15-20 goals.
Radek Dvorak RW 29 - Poor year. Solid player though. Reunite him with Nedved maybe.
Martin Rucinsky LW 35 - very good player, old and injury prone though.
Chris Clark RW 30 - 15 goals, 100 PIMS, grit, desire, hard work. Love this guy.
Jarkko Ruttu LW 31 - One of the biggest ****** in the league, which we could use.
Ville Nieminen LW 29 - See Ruttu.


Center
(There is no need here. I REALLY like the players on this list though, so I have to thrown them in there. Sillinger could play RW, and I think McCauley played wing in the past)

Marc Savard C 29 - An absolute stud in his prime.
David Legwand C 26 - Young FA. IF he can stay healthy, will have a break out year.
Mike Sillinger C/RW 35 - Old, but fast and specializes on draws and the PK.
Alyn McCauley C 29 - Selke type forward coming off a bad season. Could be had cheap.


Goalie
(Assuming Esche is traded, (which I think will happen) we will need a backup goalie for Antero Niittymaki. It would have to be someone 100% ok with being a backup, and ok with a salary in the 450-650K range.)

Chris Osgood G 33 - Might be the perfect guy to backup Frank.
Johan Hedberg G 33 - has embraced the role of backup well. Probably stays in Dallas.
John Grahame G 31 - if he accepts that he is a backup, he'd be good in this role.
Brent Johnson G 29 - Very solid season, wants to stay in Washington though.
Brian Boucher G 29 - I can really this happening.
Mike Dunham G 34 - Getting old, bad year, injury prone. Probably pass.
Curtis Joseph G 39 - Will want starters money and job, will probably get it, not here though.


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05-08-2006, 01:19 PM
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Agree with a lot of the list. Only guy missing is Parrish on the wing. He could be a good fit, although I'd like a real speedster at RW. On D, Redden should be the target, while Spacek, Kaberle, Skrastins, and Havelid are all more likely guys that would fit in nicely. A 7th d-man might not be a bad idea. I don't think a center is necessary now, but a 3rd/4th line type who plays good D and wins faceoffs could be if Primeau is in fact done. We definitely need (at least) one top 4 d-man, one scoring winger (preferably RW for Umberger and Carter), and possibly a backup goaltender.

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Shoot, I forgot about Parrish. Not the speedster I'd like to get in here, but he'd definitly be somehwere in my top 10 at wing.
I'll have to edit that later on tonight.

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as far as goalies go i'd love to bring back boucher...def not a starter, but a cheap backup it would be awesome

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as far as goalies go i'd love to bring back boucher...def not a starter, but a cheap backup it would be awesome
I wouldn't mind Boosh back as our #2. I wonder if he has any hard feelings about the way he left town. It would be funny that we would probably trade Esche and then sign Boucher, since we traded them vice versa and picked up Handzus in the process.

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dependant on price, for D i look at 1 or 2 of: Kaberle, Havelid, or Skrastkins.

for wing, i look at 2 of: Parrish, Dumont, Sykora, Samsonov, or Langenbrunner.

Sillinger is an interesting player. If he plays wing i would take a hard look at him too.

I think for some reason Ed Belfour might be a good backup for Nitty

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dependant on price, for D i look at 1 or 2 of: Kaberle, Havelid, or Skrastkins.

for wing, i look at 2 of: Parrish, Dumont, Sykora, Samsonov, or Langenbrunner.

Sillinger is an interesting player. If he plays wing i would take a hard look at him too.

I think for some reason Ed Belfour might be a good backup for Nitty
Belfour is an odd character... he would certainly help from the experience stand point if we move one of the goalies before the season (which sounds unlikely), but could he really operate as a backup? i don't know.

Samsonov would be a coup for the wing... i bet he stays in Edmonton though, believe i saw/heard a quote where he was discussing how well he meshed w/ that club.

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Belfour is an odd character... he would certainly help from the experience stand point if we move one of the goalies before the season (which sounds unlikely), but could he really operate as a backup? i don't know.

Samsonov would be a coup for the wing... i bet he stays in Edmonton though, believe i saw/heard a quote where he was discussing how well he meshed w/ that club.
yeah i think samsonov is likely to stay an oiler as well

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The Oil would be nuts to let him go and Sammy's a player who'll play where he wants to play/feels comfortable, rather than where the dollar signs are. There were rumours he'd sign back at Boston under new management because that was where he genuinely wanted to be but he's rapidly clicked in Edmonton and it's a good fit for him, he likes it there, they like him there, and I doubt they'll part ways any time soon.

Then that absolute steal of a trade will become an even better one.

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dependant on price, for D i look at 1 or 2 of: Kaberle, Havelid, or Skrastkins.

for wing, i look at 2 of: Parrish, Dumont, Sykora, Samsonov, or Langenbrunner.

Sillinger is an interesting player. If he plays wing i would take a hard look at him too.

I think for some reason Ed Belfour might be a good backup for Nitty
sillinger plays right wing aswell as center if i recall correctly

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nice post man. can you add other FA (Chara etc. when you sticky it? Thanks)

Iagree that Maxim Afinagenov would be AWESOME with Umberger and Carter. I think that would be a perfect fit. I think we would have tons of scoring from that line. I think Buffalo may have to let him go as well, thats the problem with haveing 4 lines that can all score, you eventually have to keep them under contract...sorry Buffalo

I also like the idea of Osgood, he is a great player with cup experience that will help nitty a lot i think. But is there any Vet finnish goalie that we could get? Either way i think we are keeping Esche till thedeadline then trading him and allowing storr to be back up and play maybe a game or two.

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nice post man. can you add other FA (Chara etc. when you sticky it? Thanks)

Iagree that Maxim Afinagenov would be AWESOME with Umberger and Carter. I think that would be a perfect fit. I think we would have tons of scoring from that line. I think Buffalo may have to let him go as well, thats the problem with haveing 4 lines that can all score, you eventually have to keep them under contract...sorry Buffalo

I also like the idea of Osgood, he is a great player with cup experience that will help nitty a lot i think. But is there any Vet finnish goalie that we could get? Either way i think we are keeping Esche till thedeadline then trading him and allowing storr to be back up and play maybe a game or two.
I agree. Carter needs someone that carries the puck, makes 300 moves, pulls the defense towards him and then dishes the puck off to Carter for that nasty shot. Umberger will do the dirty work in the corner or pick up the rebound from Carter. I just dont see Buffalo letting him go though and even worse, I dont see Clarke ever signing a guy like him.

I do not think Parrish fits at all. He is a good goal scorer, but he gets garbage goals. If we did sign him, I put him on the 3rd line with 1st or 2nd powerplay duty. he is not overly fast and not very skilled. This team needs guys that can skate down the ice and put the puck past the goalie.

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nice post man. can you add other FA (Chara etc. when you sticky it? Thanks)


But is there any Vet finnish goalie that we could get? Either way i think we are keeping Esche till thedeadline then trading him and allowing storr to be back up and play maybe a game or two.
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I like the list. I would like to go after Kaberle, Skrastins, and/or Havelid, guys who fill the 3-4 role. They are all solid but unassuming guys that would not be too expensive.

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CNNSI.com reported under the rumors section that the Flyers are likely going to target Wade Redden once free agency starts. I think we've got more money to play with than what they're letting on. That would be an absolute steal if that were the case.

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CNNSI.com reported under the rumors section that the Flyers are likely going to target Wade Redden once free agency starts. I think we've got more money to play with than what they're letting on. That would be an absolute steal if that were the case.
I'm starting to wonder if they don't package up Zeus and Esche after all. It frees up roughly 3 million dollars in cap space and gets us better draft position.

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I'm starting to wonder if they don't package up Zeus and Esche after all. It frees up roughly 3 million dollars in cap space and gets us better draft position.
I was reading Clarke's season ending comments on the Philadelphia Flyers page and I know that he mentioned that he would be looking at dealing someone from a poisiton of strength to help strengthen another position on the team that is weak. I take a look at our position of strength and it's center. The only player on the team who I could see being traded from our center core is Handzus.

With that being said, I'm wondering if there is any sort of paper work that will need to be done on the league end because if they deal Handzus at the draft, he wouldn't have recovered from his shoulder surgery by then and he could actually nix the deal if he wanted to because he is injured.

Anyways, I'm also thinking that we'll see several veteran players be sent on their way or offered retirement bonuses so to say. The fact that Kapanen's shoulder is still giving him problems reminds of the final days of Tim Kerr and maybe it's time we say goodbye to Sami as well and use Dimitriakos in Kap's position. I'd also like to see a final decision be made on Primeau. The fact that he had a setback yet again in his comeback attempt from a concussion right at the start of the playoffs isn't a good sign at all. Maybe someone will have a heart to heart with him and convince him to retire and not end up like Lindros, a shell of his former self.

Anyways, yeah, I'm really thinking that Redden will be the guy they target in Free Agency and I'm sure Wade's agent knows that and will really try to push hard on the market to start a huge bidding war for Wade's services.

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I was reading Clarke's season ending comments on the Philadelphia Flyers page and I know that he mentioned that he would be looking at dealing someone from a poisiton of strength to help strengthen another position on the team that is weak. I take a look at our position of strength and it's center. The only player on the team who I could see being traded from our center core is Handzus.

With that being said, I'm wondering if there is any sort of paper work that will need to be done on the league end because if they deal Handzus at the draft, he wouldn't have recovered from his shoulder surgery by then and he could actually nix the deal if he wanted to because he is injured.

Anyways, I'm also thinking that we'll see several veteran players be sent on their way or offered retirement bonuses so to say. The fact that Kapanen's shoulder is still giving him problems reminds of the final days of Tim Kerr and maybe it's time we say goodbye to Sami as well and use Dimitriakos in Kap's position. I'd also like to see a final decision be made on Primeau. The fact that he had a setback yet again in his comeback attempt from a concussion right at the start of the playoffs isn't a good sign at all. Maybe someone will have a heart to heart with him and convince him to retire and not end up like Lindros, a shell of his former self.

Anyways, yeah, I'm really thinking that Redden will be the guy they target in Free Agency and I'm sure Wade's agent knows that and will really try to push hard on the market to start a huge bidding war for Wade's services.
if primeau retires before too late, we might be able to hold onto handzus as wed free up 3m and a roster spot up the middle. as much as i love keith that would be ideal imo if we are chasing a guy like redden and still want to add a good winger or two.

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As I argued at the beginning of the year, I dont think we should trade Handzus, unless a cant say no deal comes up. He was another one that played injured this year. And with Handzus, the fact that he even missed one game should tell you how injured he was. He can fill in if Forsberg isnt ready at the beginning of the season and I would keep him as the heir to Primeau in the shut down role. That way Richards can be used in a more offensive role cause he is a great playmaker when played with the right type of players.

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CNNSI.com reported under the rumors section that the Flyers are likely going to target Wade Redden once free agency starts. I think we've got more money to play with than what they're letting on. That would be an absolute steal if that were the case.
to buy out hatcher would we have to pay off half of every year left on his contract? or just a precentage of the total?? i think if its cheap enough then we have to do it. hatcher for redden would be a great move, we would have one of the best d corps with a few more moves after that

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to buy out hatcher would we have to pay off half of every year left on his contract? or just a precentage of the total?? i think if its cheap enough then we have to do it. hatcher for redden would be a great move, we would have one of the best d corps with a few more moves after that
Even if you buy him out, the contract still counts against the cap. That grace period was a one time deal.

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I am still very hesitant to trade Handzus. If he gets traded, we cant rely on Primeau to stay healthy, who is our shut down guy? Richards will end up being put in a shut down role and I think he is better then that.

If we get Redden out of the deal I cant really argue but I hate to see him go.

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