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11-04-2003, 03:45 PM
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Seems like the line Torres is on is flying all the time, and Horcoff is like a big wet blanket no matter who they pair him with. Sometimes, life is unfair, but that Sarno goal gets him another game.

I can see Horcoff sitting a game this trip. He needs to score a goal.

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11-04-2003, 03:57 PM
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Dvo needs a cheapie empty netter...

He is so snake bitten.

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11-04-2003, 04:18 PM
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Good to see Torres dust off the old knuckles

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11-04-2003, 04:33 PM
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Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I have to work and then drive home, I completely miss the first period. Manage to get the PFV connected just as the highlights begin at the start of the 1st period break. Sarno just hit the post and Salmelainen has great deflection. Now Tommy is coming up big.

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11-04-2003, 04:37 PM
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4-2 souray

Canadiens still on the pp...
Oilers NEED to kill it

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11-04-2003, 04:49 PM
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That Souray guy is driving me crazy !

Talked in the 2nd intermission about growing up in Edmonton and scores 2 against the Oilers and firing 9 shots on the net - WOW.
He would be a excellent dman for Edmonton

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11-04-2003, 04:51 PM
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especially since he wears #44 and always gets injured.....

Nonetheless, he's a good player

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11-04-2003, 04:58 PM
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TOM-MY TOM-MY TOM-MY TOM-MY

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11-04-2003, 05:00 PM
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Sounds like Tommy played quite well, nice to see. That obsessive dogging always works, first for Chad Isbister, then for Tommy.

How bout Peter Sarno? Guy's got talent, and now he might have the confidence. I really wish they woulda given him a shot right at the start of the year, and maybe now he'll get a real chance. Way to go Pete!

Shawn Horcoff is like a big anchor, every line he plays on gets weighed down.

Only negative tonight was that the Oilers only managed 17 shots, but that can be forgiven, at least they got it done. Against a better team though, we'd have been in trouble in the 3rd. Outshot 12-2....yuck. I hate that automatic 4-minute rule, always have.

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11-04-2003, 05:02 PM
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We Win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Cross and Pisani prove their worth with goals and Tommy comes up big. What a pleasure it is to have our youthful depth contribute in a big way.

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11-04-2003, 05:02 PM
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Game over
4-2

Sounds like Tommy came up big....Oilers were outshot by quite a bit

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11-04-2003, 05:03 PM
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Pretty good game. Almost didn't see it. 2 hour blackout in my neighbourhood.

Man o man, Sarno looks great. What is it with the OIlers and hitting goal posts this year. Salo was awesome.

Too many penalties in the end but they were more unfortunate than undisiplined. Can say I missed Laraque or Chimera. I hope MacT rides the Isbister-Sarno-Salmo line.

Hope they have the same perfomance in Ottawa on Thursday.

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11-04-2003, 05:10 PM
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Game over
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Sounds like Tommy came up big....Oilers were outshot by quite a bit
I think that whoever was keeping the shot count might have been a little biased. Plus 3 or 4 goalposts and a crossbar or two, plus those french Canadien goaljudge eyes.

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11-04-2003, 05:43 PM
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They played a pretty good road game.. Sarno actually looked pretty good out there with Isbister and Salmaleinen. I still have to question why big Izzy doesn't get any PP time.. he looked pretty good again today in limited minutes and I'm just waiting till he finally gets a chance to score with the man advantage! :mad:

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11-04-2003, 05:45 PM
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After 60 Minutes

Well, after 60 minutes...and a nice win to start the road trip...

First off, I really like what the Oilers did with the PPV, but they need some better coordination on the cameras, and preferrably a new color guy. Why don't they just use the Rod and Morley feed or something!!!

The Good:
Tommy Salo - Kept us in this game at all the critical times. Probably his best game of the year, when you factor in the timing of the big saves he did make.

Mike York - All this guy cost us was Tom Poti? What a player.

Jason Smith - Great communicator on the backline all night. The PPV has better audio, and you can hear some of the shouts and stuff from the ice surface. All night long he was a general back there...good captain night. Absolutely DESTROYED Zednik near the end of the game...best hit of the year.

Craig MacTavish - Nice job finding the Torres-York-Dvo line some solid time together, those guys have some great chemistry. Liked the 4th line, liked that he went back to the RPM line and put them out every time the team needed to be calmed down. Good job getting the team prepared for this one.

The Bad:
Not much, other than some tough battles in our zone, where we missed a few chances to get it out.

Also, it would have been nice if the Oilers played a little more physical - but I think they were concerned with playing smart, not running around trying to break people.

The Ugly:
Shawn Horcoff - Here's where I eat crow. I was going on at the beginning of the season about how Horc should get a shot between Smyth and Hemmer. Well. He did. Man...that line did nothing all night because of his ineptitude. Wet blanket, anchor, etc...all fitting. Time for a seat Shawn...where did last seasons Horcoff go

Great game overall...fun to watch.

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11-04-2003, 05:51 PM
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Caught the PFV. Overall the Oilers played a solid game. On the plus side, Tommy Salo came up with a strong road game and victory. This was crucial given the timing as the first in a long road sked. Very strong play again with the Torres, York, Dvorak line. They have been dynamite together. Dvorak is such a strong skater and two way talent. Torres - goal and fight. Cory Cross was strong again. Kudos to Peter Sarno, it is always great to see a player get his first NHL goal. Sarno also shared his excitement post-game about realizing this lifelong goal. Well done! Finally, Pisani played probably his best game of the year. Skated well, played with grit, and scored. Good effort.

On the minus side, Shawn Horcoff looks brutual and as a past poster described an 'anchor.' He just looks lost out there. Weak on the puck and turns it over way to much. Brewer continues to struggle, over handles the puck, bad decision making. He's trying to do too much.

This is a great confidence builder for the club. Tough road schedule but it gets off on a good footing.

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11-04-2003, 06:51 PM
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Voters on PPV voted Cory Cross player of the game apparently.

I didn't get to veiw the game. Can someone tell me WHO was it carrying Cory Cross tonight?

snicker....

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11-04-2003, 07:40 PM
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I think the key tonight was that the Oilers didn't let up any real 5 star chances...

Yeah, there was the giveaway, but that puck could have easily been deflected into the corner or something (it wasn't, but anyways).

Can't do much on 5 on 3's... other than staying out of the box.

But tonight there wasn't that guy left all alone on the door step for an easy goal... even the bigger saves Salo had to make (from the replays I have seen), the player shooting didn't have nearly the same amount of time or space the Oilers had previously been giving guys.

The Oilers gave up a lot of shots, but IMO, alot of them sounded like they were easily handled, and they let Salo get into the game, while the players worried about what their jobs were. No more trying to block a point shot from a bad angle, leaving your man open.

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11-05-2003, 01:42 AM
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The Oilers gave up a lot of shots, but IMO, alot of them sounded like they were easily handled, and they let Salo get into the game, while the players worried about what their jobs were. No more trying to block a point shot from a bad angle, leaving your man open.
Alot of these came in the 3rd period. Like you said, can't do a whole lot 5-3. I think Edm led in SOG after the 2nd.

Salo was especially huge when the Oilers was on the PP and MAB coughed up the puck. I hope this game was a confience builder for Salo.

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11-05-2003, 06:02 AM
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I saw the Montreal feed from Sportsnet Peter or Pierre Lobardias and John Druce. was druce ever on the Habs?

Man alive if Dvorak ever gets one the floodgates are gonna open he was flying on every shift, that line looked great keep them together I thought York and Torres really benefited from Dvorak's play. the #1 line was pretty innefctice I don't like Horcoff with Smyth and Hemsky to me Reasoner is the best center we have right now and I think he should be givin a shot. Yes I know the RPM line is playing well but woudn't it be better to try to jumpstart Hemmer and Smyth? Besides the way Moreau is playing right now you could put anyone with him he has been a force. Salo's best performance in a while and the 2 young guys didn't seem out of place at all.

Tony Salmo really impressed me with the way he goes into traffic to make plays, on the Sarno play he went right to th front of the net tipped a puck to Sarno and then he made a great play knocking a puck down from mid air right to Isbister who got a break away out of it.

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11-05-2003, 06:11 AM
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The Ugly:
Shawn Horcoff - Here's where I eat crow. I was going on at the beginning of the season about how Horc should get a shot between Smyth and Hemmer. Well. He did. Man...that line did nothing all night because of his ineptitude. Wet blanket, anchor, etc...all fitting. Time for a seat Shawn...where did last seasons Horcoff go

Great game overall...fun to watch.
Maybe I didn't see correctly, but didn't he look a bit slow getting to the puck on Souray's first goal? It just seemed like floated towards the puck or he got scared that he was going to get nailed. I don't know I've seen the play a few times but it just seemed like he wasn't aggressive enough. Plus, he tipped it as well.

Oh well, the goal was meaningless.

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11-05-2003, 07:26 AM
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Maybe I didn't see correctly, but didn't he look a bit slow getting to the puck on Souray's first goal? It just seemed like floated towards the puck or he got scared that he was going to get nailed. I don't know I've seen the play a few times but it just seemed like he wasn't aggressive enough. Plus, he tipped it as well.

Oh well, the goal was meaningless.

And, the most amazing stat of the game:

Sheldon Souray scores 2 goals, pushing him up to 5 on the season - Good enough to lead the Habs!

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11-05-2003, 08:07 AM
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The Ugly:
Shawn Horcoff - Here's where I eat crow. I was going on at the beginning of the season about how Horc should get a shot between Smyth and Hemmer. Well. He did. Man...that line did nothing all night because of his ineptitude. Wet blanket, anchor, etc...all fitting. Time for a seat Shawn...where did last seasons Horcoff go
he's still there. this IS the same horcoff... i really don't understand why everyone jumped on the horcoff bandwagon. was it because he wasn't the worst player in the playoffs? he sure as hell wasn't good. maybe because he played a decent game against denmark playing for team canada?

this guy is NOT (i repeat NOT) a top 2 center. and he never will be.

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11-05-2003, 08:15 AM
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this guy is NOT (i repeat NOT) a top 2 center. and he never will be.
VERY well said ...i had SOME...little hope for him but that disappeared the first home game in the pre-season...Shawniel Clearcoff take a seat in the press box please and thank you...

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11-05-2003, 12:55 PM
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he's still there. this IS the same horcoff... i really don't understand why everyone jumped on the horcoff bandwagon. was it because he wasn't the worst player in the playoffs? he sure as hell wasn't good. maybe because he played a decent game against denmark playing for team canada?

this guy is NOT (i repeat NOT) a top 2 center. and he never will be.

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I feel like that guy from Independence Day, who was that again, Dennis Quaid?

"I been sayin it, ain't I been sayin it, how long have I been sayin it".

Horcoff is a 4th line hockey player...and that's why we trade him+ to Buffalo while he's still overrated, and get ourselves Tim Connolly. QUICK! Before the scouts see!

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