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05-17-2006, 10:16 AM
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My 2006 dream line

Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse
Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin


Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse:
Kostitsyn : sniper
Koivu : Play maker , vision
Latendresse: Physical play
Koivu showing his leadership playing with 2 rookies.


Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins : In your face style.
Plekanec : Great vision
Kovalev : play maker, scorer
Nice chemistry between higgins and Plekanec, all of 3 are fast skaters.

Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Perezhogin: Speed.
Ribeiro : Creativity
Ryder : Sniper
Nice chemistry with perezhogin-ribeiro and ribeiro-ryder.

Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin
Murray : Intensity
Grabovsky : Talented player with Intensity
Bégin : Intensity
Physical play by Murray and Bégin could help a small guy like Grabovsky.

Discuss!

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05-17-2006, 10:21 AM
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First and 3rd line have a glare of defensive weakness, but other than that, it's pretty good.

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your no.1 line is is rediculous. do you really beleive kost and letandresse will are

going to be point a game rookies.... not sure if pleks can put up enough points

to center kovalev, and grabovski is everything but a fourth line player....maybe

I just have a different dream

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05-17-2006, 10:53 AM
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Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse
Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin


Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse:
Kostitsyn : sniper
Koivu : Play maker , vision
Latendresse: Physical play
Koivu showing his leadership playing with 2 rookies.


Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins : In your face style.
Plekanec : Great vision
Kovalev : play maker, scorer
Nice chemistry between higgins and Plekanec, all of 3 are fast skaters.

Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Perezhogin: Speed.
Ribeiro : Creativity
Ryder : Sniper
Nice chemistry with perezhogin-ribeiro and ribeiro-ryder.

Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin
Murray : Intensity
Grabovsky : Talented player with Intensity
Bégin : Intensity
Physical play by Murray and Bégin could help a small guy like Grabovsky.

Discuss!
I do not like a few things....
Ryder is young and still improving, he has 55g in first two NHL season and I see no reason to put him on a third line. Higgins as shown good things with both Ryder and Koivu on his line and I do not think it would be a good think to break this. If we are to keep Ribeiro, I would rather go with the following...

Higgins, Koivu, Ryder
Latendresse or UFA, Ribeiro, Kovalev
Perezhogin, Plekanek, Kostsitsyn
Begin, Lapierre, Murray

Or perhaps we could trade Abiesher and our 1st for Havlat and get the following.

Higgins, Koivu, Ryder
Kostsitsyn, Riberio, Kovalev
Perezhogin, Plekanek, Havlat
Begin, Lapierre, Murray

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05-17-2006, 10:56 AM
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Is Kostsitsyn a lock to make this team next season?

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7 rookies or sophomore in this line-up out of 12 players.
9 that has 3 NHL seasons or less under their belt.

Are we rebuilding or something?

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05-17-2006, 11:20 AM
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Is Kostsitsyn a lock to make this team next season?
I don't think he's a "lock." I think he has a good chance of making the team out of camp, and even if he doesn't, will definitely see some action at some point in the year, but all of that will be decided by our off season moves, and how Andrei shows up in the Fall.

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Sounds great!....If we are going for the #1 overal pick in 2007

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Is Kostsitsyn a lock to make this team next season?
almost

The chances of kostitsyn making it this year are about as good as Kesler's chances were in 2006 for vancouver

Case in point, he needs a horrendous camp to not make the team

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Sounds great!....If we are going for the #1 overal pick in 2007
Oh so upgrading Bulis, Bonk and Sundstrom will make us a worse team...Ahhhhh I get it now.

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I never thought I'd see the day someone would include Ribeiro in a dream line-up.


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Oh so upgrading Bulis, Bonk and Sundstrom will make us a worse team...Ahhhhh I get it now.
Benching them made us a better team.

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Or perhaps we could trade Abiesher and our 1st for Havlat and get the following.

Higgins, Koivu, Ryder
Kostsitsyn, Riberio, Kovalev
Perezhogin, Plekanek, Havlat
Begin, Lapierre, Murray
1) Ottawa won't trade Havlat to Montreal
2) If, in your deam, the did, Havlat would be arguably our best player (IMO, by quite a margin)
3) Putting your best player on the third line, when you've got Ryder on the first, is just... weird managment (especially when you just acquired the said player via trade, usually you want to show you made a good deal).

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1) Ottawa won't trade Havlat to Montreal
2) If, in your deam, the did, Havlat would be arguably our best player (IMO, by quite a margin)
3) Putting your best player on the third line, when you've got Ryder on the first, is just... weird managment (especially when you just acquired the said player via trade, usually you want to show you made a good deal).
There is no such thing as a third line in today's NHL... Your 1st line is the one that works the best. The idea is to have a team where every line is a threat either from an offensive point production point of view or from a physical play point of view.

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Not much of a dreamer. But at least Pierre Dagenais wasn't included by Pierredagenais in this fantasy lineup.

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one thing's sure, with a forward line-up that looks like that, we have a hell of a budjet for defense

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Oh so upgrading Bulis, Bonk and Sundstrom will make us a worse team...Ahhhhh I get it now.
Are you crazy? Yes it will, but it wouldn't be an 'upgrade' as you put it.

3 smart defensive forwards replaced by rookies, uh, yeah, that's a recipe for success.

What a creampuff team. Might as well get rid of Begin and Murray while we're at it.

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Are you crazy? Yes it will, but it wouldn't be an 'upgrade' as you put it.

3 smart defensive forwards replaced by rookies, uh, yeah, that's a recipe for success.

What a creampuff team. Might as well get rid of Begin and Murray while we're at it.
Bulis became an "offensive" player remember? Everyone acts as though Bonk is something special defensively. He's no better than Begin or Plekanec. Our pk lines could be, Pleks - Higgins, Begin - Murray with Bonk gone. Do you honestly think Bonk has a big value to this team?

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Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse
Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin
Potentially, if the rookies play to (very high) expectations, and all these crazy new lines gel, they'll be great for scoring 3-4 goals a game.

They'll also probably cost 5-6 goals against a night.

-Who exactly plays when the Habs have a 2 goal lead?
-Who's the defensive specialist that excels in tight playoff games? -Why on earth is Ribeiro still around when Grabovsky made the team?
-Who's going to stick up for these creampuffs against games in TO when Tucker takes another run at Kovalev? Murray?

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Bulis became an "offensive" player remember? Everyone acts as though Bonk is something special defensively. He's no better than Begin or Plekanec. Our pk lines could be, Pleks - Higgins, Begin - Murray with Bonk gone. Do you honestly think Bonk has a big value to this team?
Pop quiz, hot shot: Begin gets injured. The next 3 games are against Atlanta, Toronto and Ottawa; they're all looking to push us around. Ottawa and Atlanta are just looking to run up the score. Our centers are getting pushed around all night.

What do you do?

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There is no such thing as a third line in today's NHL... Your 1st line is the one that works the best. The idea is to have a team where every line is a threat either from an offensive point production point of view or from a physical play point of view.
That's bull crap. Take a look at the team still in the playoffs, and show me one who doesn't have a defensive unit with a shutdown center. And show me one who sticks its best offensive player alone with second-par players on a (third) new-NHL line...

Anyway, you're not getting Havlat nor any non-UFA usable player from our division, so that was bull crap from the beginning.

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05-17-2006, 01:06 PM
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Pop quiz, hot shot: Begin gets injured. The next 3 games are against Atlanta, Toronto and Ottawa; they're all looking to push us around. Ottawa and Atlanta are just looking to run up the score. Our centers are getting pushed around all night.

What do you do?
You think Bonk helps us from getting pushed around? He's almost as big a sissy as Ribeiro. You go with Lapierre.

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05-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse
Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin


Kostitsyn-Koivu-Latendresse:
Kostitsyn : sniper
Koivu : Play maker , vision
Latendresse: Physical play
Koivu showing his leadership playing with 2 rookies.


Higgins-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins : In your face style.
Plekanec : Great vision
Kovalev : play maker, scorer
Nice chemistry between higgins and Plekanec, all of 3 are fast skaters.

Perezhogin-Ribeiro-Ryder
Perezhogin: Speed.
Ribeiro : Creativity
Ryder : Sniper
Nice chemistry with perezhogin-ribeiro and ribeiro-ryder.

Murray-Grabovsky-Bégin
Murray : Intensity
Grabovsky : Talented player with Intensity
Bégin : Intensity
Physical play by Murray and Bégin could help a small guy like Grabovsky.

Discuss!

You have the perfect recipe to finish in the bottom five in the Eastern Conference.

Too many unproven rookies. Grabosky, Latendresse won't be there. Kostitsyn, if he plays, will be on a fourth line. Let's bring Lang and Langerbrunner, and let the youngsters gain more experience in the minors or at junior level.

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05-17-2006, 01:22 PM
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You think Bonk helps us from getting pushed around? He's almost as big a sissy as Ribeiro. You go with Lapierre.
I agree about Bonk, he's everything but bang for the puck. Your pushing it though when you say Begin is as good defensively. Bonk is our best player for that and I'll take his GM and teammates word over yours any day. That said, gimme Lapierre any day, he's gonna be our Mike Fisher.

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Pop quiz, hot shot: Begin gets injured. The next 3 games are against Atlanta, Toronto and Ottawa; they're all looking to push us around. Ottawa and Atlanta are just looking to run up the score. Our centers are getting pushed around all night.

What do you do?

Lucky for Buffalo they have such juggernauts at center or they would have been intimidated by the intense physical play of Heatley, Alfredsson, Spezza and the like?

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05-17-2006, 01:34 PM
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Kostitsyn, if he plays, will be on a fourth line.
No chance. The "fourth line" is all but set to be Murray - Bonk - Begin. If anyone is breaking that up, it's Lapierre or Ferland. For Kostitsyn to make this team, he needs to earn a spot on one of the other three trios.

I could see a 1B line of Kostitsyn - UFA - Kovalev potentially. Plekanec and Perezhogin seemed to do well playing on the same line, so you can keep that as the "third line" with another winger should Zednik be dealt.

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