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05-19-2006, 02:39 AM
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Thoughts on these UFAs...

lw Bulis mtl 30ish 6'2" 208 73gp-20g-20a
+(tsn)Has a strong lower body and is difficult to knock off the puck. Is defensively responsible, skates well and complements scoring forwards well.
-Needs to use his shot more. Must improve his consistency. The jury is still out on whether he can score enough to be a top-six forward.

*I would like to see O'Sullivan get a lot of playing time opposite of Gaborik. But if that doesn't happen and there's no Elias signing, this might not be a bad fit. He's Czeck, so you might have the Friend for Gaborik (FFG) factor.

rw/lw V. Kozlov nj 32 6'5" 235 69-12-13/ 74-22-34(2002/03)
+Has great vision on the ice, imposing size and impressive imagination. Loves to handle the puck and does so with skill and finesse. Is very good when he lines up on either wing.
-Must improve his ability to score goals in order to keep defenders honest. Is still looking for a level of consistency in the NHL. Does not look good when playing the pivot.

*Do you think he could play w/ Gaborik? If not, he still might look good on a depth line.

c Rucchin nyr 35 6'2" 211 72-13-23 +6 / 82-20-38(2002/03)
+Anticipates the play well. A great face-off man and terrific two-way forward, he excels in penalty-killing situations. Has smart passing skills. Is a born leader and an inspirational teammate.
-Should never be counted on as a major goal-scoring threat. Doesn't have a lot of natural ability so he needs to work extra hard night after night. Appears to be on the decline, in terms of production.

*I was a big fan when he was in Anaheim. Does anybody know if he has anything left in the tank? He would be a nice faceoff specialist and bring some veteran leadership and savvy. A Chouinard replacement perhaps? He could center a 3rd or 4th line, freeing up Koivu and Walz for top line duty.

c Halpern was 31 6'0" 198 70-11-33 -8 / 79-19-27(2003/04)
+Is a diligent worker. Plays a solid defensive game and excels on the penalty kill. Has an improving scoring touch. Can fill in on the wing if needed.
-Doesn't own a huge offensive upside. Tends to rile up the opposition too much with questionable tactics.

*Checking line center to free up Walz. I'm not sure if the Caps will let him go. He is one of the few NHLers out of the DC area.

c Hrdina cbj 31 6'0" 205 75-10-23 -8 / 79-24-33(2001-02)
+ Is a very smart hockey player, solid on face-offs and in penalty-killing situations. Does all the little things very well and is a sound playmaker.
-Has not shown a lot of upside as a goal-scorer at the NHL level, mainly because he doesn't shoot the puck enough. Also plays a very soft game.

*3rd/4th liner, frees up Walz/Koivu

c/w M. Sillinger stl/nas 35 5'11" 196 79-32-31 -17
+Possesses good two-way instincts and playmaking ability. Does anything asked of him. Excels on face-offs and can line up at all three forward positions.
-Struggles in the goal-scoring department, and is much more suited to playing on a checking line than as a top-six forward.

*I think we could really use a guy like this. He put up 1st line center numbers this year, but I don't think his game would gel very well with Gaborik. Nice center or wing for the 2nd or 4th line.

c M. Peca edm 33 5'11" 190 71-9-14 -4 / 76-11-29 +17(2003/04)
+Is one of the best open-ice hitters in the game, a gifted penalty-killer and face-off man. Has excellent leadership ability and always has his game-face on. Adds quality offense in a support role.
-Tends to lose his composure at times, due to repercussions stemming from his devastating hits. Isn't a natural goal-scorer and must work extra hard for his points. His kamikaze approach leads to a multitude of injuries.

*I know, I know. Overrated. Overpaid. But the whole league knows it and he's an UFA now. If he could be had for a reasonable price, I don't think it's that bad of a fit. He has good speed and would bring a non-Boogeyman physical presence. Might even be able to switch between a checking line/1st line center role with Walz. A versatile fit for our line shuffling system. Flame away.

c/w O. Kvasha phx 28 6'5" 230 64-13-19 +5 / 81-15-36(2003/04)
+Possesses a huge frame and good speed for such a big man. Has outstanding puck-handling skills and decent scoring potential.
-Lacks the desire and drive needed to become a better performer. Has always displayed questionable work ethic. Disappears for lengthy stretches during the 82-game season.

c/lw McCauley sj 29 5'11" 200 76-12-14 -3 / 82-20-27 +23(2003/04)
+Is blessed with superb vision. Can put the biscuit right on the tape and creates a lot of opportunities for his linemates. Also owns tremendous desire and defensive savvy.
-Lacks confidence in the offensive zone. Isn't very big or much of a physical presence. May not score enough for the second line.

*Don't know much about him, but he sounds like our type of player. Put up some respectable numbers before the strike. Seems like a good candidate for the checking line if we decide Walz is our best option for a #1 center.

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if Peca comes at a resonable price I would like him, he would make a great role playing center, but we would still need a dynamic first line center. a center combo of ?-Koivuu-Walz-Peca is a solid cahracter filled bunch with great defensive responsibility and some ability to score. But again first line center is still a must and only a Brad Richards would fill it properly(I can dream)

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lw Bulis mtl 30ish 6'2" 208 73gp-20g-20a
+(tsn)Has a strong lower body and is difficult to knock off the puck. Is defensively responsible, skates well and complements scoring forwards well.
-Needs to use his shot more. Must improve his consistency. The jury is still out on whether he can score enough to be a top-six forward.

*I would like to see O'Sullivan get a lot of playing time opposite of Gaborik. But if that doesn't happen and there's no Elias signing, this might not be a bad fit. He's Czeck, so you might have the Friend for Gaborik (FFG) factor.
What would be the difference between Bulis and Marc Chouinard? He'll be more expensive than Chouinard and would do about the same. Langenbrunner or Elias would be dramatically better. Parrish and/or Sillinger would be better role players for what we need.

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rw/lw V. Kozlov nj 32 6'5" 235 69-12-13/ 74-22-34(2002/03)
+Has great vision on the ice, imposing size and impressive imagination. Loves to handle the puck and does so with skill and finesse. Is very good when he lines up on either wing.
-Must improve his ability to score goals in order to keep defenders honest. Is still looking for a level of consistency in the NHL. Does not look good when playing the pivot.

*Do you think he could play w/ Gaborik? If not, he still might look good on a depth line.
Same comment Kozlov as about Chouinard. If we want a big, guy who doesn't throw his weight around and doesn't score much, why pay more?

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c Rucchin nyr 35 6'2" 211 72-13-23 +6 / 82-20-38(2002/03)
+Anticipates the play well. A great face-off man and terrific two-way forward, he excels in penalty-killing situations. Has smart passing skills. Is a born leader and an inspirational teammate.
-Should never be counted on as a major goal-scoring threat. Doesn't have a lot of natural ability so he needs to work extra hard night after night. Appears to be on the decline, in terms of production.

*I was a big fan when he was in Anaheim. Does anybody know if he has anything left in the tank? He would be a nice faceoff specialist and bring some veteran leadership and savvy. A Chouinard replacement perhaps? He could center a 3rd or 4th line, freeing up Koivu and Walz for top line duty.
I think that Rucchin is done. He's just not a good skater, never was and is getting slower. Chouinard skates much better than he does.

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c Halpern was 31 6'0" 198 70-11-33 -8 / 79-19-27(2003/04)
+Is a diligent worker. Plays a solid defensive game and excels on the penalty kill. Has an improving scoring touch. Can fill in on the wing if needed.
-Doesn't own a huge offensive upside. Tends to rile up the opposition too much with questionable tactics.

*Checking line center to free up Walz. I'm not sure if the Caps will let him go. He is one of the few NHLers out of the DC area.
Halpern is alright, nuthin special. Journeyman.

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c Hrdina cbj 31 6'0" 205 75-10-23 -8 / 79-24-33(2001-02)
+ Is a very smart hockey player, solid on face-offs and in penalty-killing situations. Does all the little things very well and is a sound playmaker.
-Has not shown a lot of upside as a goal-scorer at the NHL level, mainly because he doesn't shoot the puck enough. Also plays a very soft game.

*3rd/4th liner, frees up Walz/Koivu
I'm not impressed with Hrdina. Supplies nothing that Chouinard wouldn't.

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c/w M. Sillinger stl/nas 35 5'11" 196 79-32-31 -17
+Possesses good two-way instincts and playmaking ability. Does anything asked of him. Excels on face-offs and can line up at all three forward positions.
-Struggles in the goal-scoring department, and is much more suited to playing on a checking line than as a top-six forward.

*I think we could really use a guy like this. He put up 1st line center numbers this year, but I don't think his game would gel very well with Gaborik. Nice center or wing for the 2nd or 4th line.
I like Sillinger. He'd provide grit and determination and (as I said on another post) plays bigger than Chouinard does. Better face-off man than Chouinard.

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c M. Peca edm 33 5'11" 190 71-9-14 -4 / 76-11-29 +17(2003/04)
+Is one of the best open-ice hitters in the game, a gifted penalty-killer and face-off man. Has excellent leadership ability and always has his game-face on. Adds quality offense in a support role.
-Tends to lose his composure at times, due to repercussions stemming from his devastating hits. Isn't a natural goal-scorer and must work extra hard for his points. His kamikaze approach leads to a multitude of injuries.

*I know, I know. Overrated. Overpaid. But the whole league knows it and he's an UFA now. If he could be had for a reasonable price, I don't think it's that bad of a fit. He has good speed and would bring a non-Boogeyman physical presence. Might even be able to switch between a checking line/1st line center role with Walz. A versatile fit for our line shuffling system. Flame away.
This move would draw a lot of attention and criticism. He would provide that physical edge we lack, but he just doesn't produce enough. We've already got Walz who we all love here in MN plus he's awfully expensive for what we'd get. Walz is not a 1st line center. He's awesome at what he does. Watching the Oilers dominate in the face-off circle I have to confess that Peca's the main reason they completely dominated SJ in face-offs. I'd rather have Sillinger than Peca, but wouldn't object if the Peckster arrived. I just don't see Risebrough going after Peca.

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c/w O. Kvasha phx 28 6'5" 230 64-13-19 +5 / 81-15-36(2003/04)
+Possesses a huge frame and good speed for such a big man. Has outstanding puck-handling skills and decent scoring potential.
-Lacks the desire and drive needed to become a better performer. Has always displayed questionable work ethic. Disappears for lengthy stretches during the 82-game season.
He wouldn't last a week of training camp under Lemaire.

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[B]c/lw McCauley sj 29 5'11" 200 76-12-14 -3 / 82-20-27 +23(2003/04)
+Is blessed with superb vision. Can put the biscuit right on the tape and creates a lot of opportunities for his linemates. Also owns tremendous desire and defensive savvy.
-Lacks confidence in the offensive zone. Isn't very big or much of a physical presence. May not score enough for the second line.

*Don't know much about him, but he sounds like our type of player. Put up some respectable numbers before the strike. Seems like a good candidate for the checking line if we decide Walz is our best option for a #1 center.
We can fill any role that we'd use McCauley with Foy. Voloshenko might be better as they're about the same size and Voloshenko will hopefully provide some scoring. McCauley is going to cost more than he'd be worth.

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Generally, other than Sillinger or Peca, none of these guys provide anything that we need. The Wild are only a few players away from making the playoffs. I'm worried that Risebrough will fill our need for a gritty, tough as nails role player and for a scorer with not very tough, low scoring journeymen. DR has been dropping hints that he may splash for some solid players. Here's the UFAs I'd like to see:

Mark Parrish - will score from in front of net. Has mentioned he'd like to play in MN.

Patrick Elias - FAST and can score. We'd have an awesome top line with Elias, Rolston and Gaborik.

Jamie Langenbrunner - FAST, decent points producer and great playmaker. We'd then have Bouchard and Langenbrunner to play setup men.

Petr Sykora - FAST and decent point producer. Good hands, good vision. A dramatic upgrade from Dupuis.

Mike Sillinger - would provide grit, physical play, a bit of scoring and face-off wins we need.

Jason Arnott - big, mean and can score. He's willing to play in front of the net and is defensively sound. Knows Lemaire and would adapt quickly to system.

Anson Carter - Fast, gritty and (arguably) has the best hair in hockey. Might play well with Mikko Koivu and Foy on the third line.

Mike Peca - would provide grit, physical play and face-off wins we need.

Marc Savard - would be the genuine 1st line scoring center we need. Great in the face-off circle. He might not like playing for Lemaire -- he's been known to complain about working hard.

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I definitely agree on Parrish/Langenbrunner. I didn't include them because they've been talked about to death. Of the two, I think Parrish is more likely and also fills a glaring need.

This post is about trying to get a take on some of the role players that might be available. The big concern that I have about this offseason is that we don't have a natural center for Gaborik to play with. When you look at the list of UFAs, I do not see an answer. Savard isn't a good fit for our system and will prob. be overpaid. Arnott makes some sense, but will also be expensive. I think we will get the biggest bang for our FA $ by going after an elite d-man. The market is flooded with them.

Elias would be fantastic. But if we spend big money on D, he's not realistic, and would still leave a hole at center. Outside of Arnott, I don't see a lot of answers. In fact, Walz and Koivu start to look pretty good. And yes, Chouinard's 30 points looks pretty respectable for a 3rd/4th line role too.

It's not all doom and gloom. We still have White and Rolston. I like White, but the idea of him as #1 center makes me squirm. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rolston play a vast majority of the season at left wing? Or am I overstating it?

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Rucchin wasn't good on face offs for us this year at all. Betts was our #1 guy.

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outside of that, did he still have any tread left on the tire? Or can't you get rid of him fast enough?

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i love Halpern and McCauley.

not sure if we really need Halperns, but McCauley would be a great addition. that is, if the price is right.

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I definitely agree on Parrish/Langenbrunner. I didn't include them because they've been talked about to death. Of the two, I think Parrish is more likely and also fills a glaring need.
... and I've been been among the ones ...

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This post is about trying to get a take on some of the role players that might be available. The big concern that I have about this offseason is that we don't have a natural center for Gaborik to play with. When you look at the list of UFAs, I do not see an answer. Savard isn't a good fit for our system and will prob. be overpaid. Arnott makes some sense, but will also be expensive. I think we will get the biggest bang for our FA $ by going after an elite d-man. The market is flooded with them.
Well ... I think Sillinger and Peca would fill the face-off man role we need. Right now we have nobody to win face-offs so that Gaborik, Rolston and Foster can score on set plays. Watching Peca operate this (and previous) playoffs shows the need we have.

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Elias would be fantastic. But if we spend big money on D, he's not realistic, and would still leave a hole at center. Outside of Arnott, I don't see a lot of answers. In fact, Walz and Koivu start to look pretty good. And yes, Chouinard's 30 points looks pretty respectable for a 3rd/4th line role too.

It's not all doom and gloom. We still have White and Rolston. I like White, but the idea of him as #1 center makes me squirm. And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Rolston play a vast majority of the season at left wing? Or am I overstating it?
Have faith and find some hope, laddy. I think we're just a few role players away. I would just hate to pay 2M for a 3rd line player to play with Walz and Vielleux when someone like Foy or Weinhandl would do the job just fine. I think we just need a few pieces:

1st pairing UFA Defenseman

Face-off man -- Chouinard probably isn't it. Sillinger or Peca would be great short term solutions and give a chance for a prospect to appear.

Partner for Gabbie and Rolston - This is where we spend some big money.

Goal mouth scorer (or really a foil for Bouchard) - most likely to be Parrish.

Also keep in mind that we're around 12-15M under the cap. We've got loads of room to go before we start getting close. And by my calculations that includes Gabbie getting 6-7M this summer.

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McCauley would be a good fit for the Wild.

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McCauley would be a good fit for the Wild.
Why?

Alyn McCauley
5'11"
200 lbs.
12G, 14A, 26pts
+/- -3
105 shots

Sounds like Foy, Irmen, Bailey or [fill in the blank] could post 20ish points and stay about even on the plus-minus.

Is there something I've missed about Alyn?

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McCauley woudl be a steal... who performs in big games on top lines... see the playoffs a few years back? He ROCKED. I think Gaborik might evne help him get out of his offensive shell.

Halpern is great too... very underrated in my books, but i'd rather mccauley. Ask on the leafs board what we think of him


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I like Halprin and i think he would be a good addition.

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Peca

Like his ol' self in the playoffs. It has, however, been a long time since he was a top regular season performer

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I like Halprin and i think he would be a good addition.
Why Halpern?

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I'd like to see a Chouinard replacement. When I'm cranky I say he's slow of foot and clumsy with the puck. Hands of stone and can't catch a pass that isn't slow and soft. Just when I'm cranky, though. When not asked to do too much I like him on the team.

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Why Halpern?

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I too think McCauley would be a good addition, I think he was a Selke finalist in 04-05...He would be a fine successor to Walz when he retires, which I would imagine will be after the next season-


It is also very plausible imo that we resign Dupuis and move him into our 4th line center role, and eventually into our shutdown role...I thought he was very effective in that role the last few weeks of the season.

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