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05-21-2006, 05:39 PM
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This isn't related to the question at hand, but wow, I had no idea that Damphousse played for Edmonton at one point. The more you know!
Corson was part of the package that went to Edmonton from Montreal.

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Damphousse may have been the only player to have led three different teams (Toronto, Edmonton, Montreal) in scoring in three consecutive seasons.
Damphousse missed leading the Sharks in scoring by a few points several times. Pierre Turgeon led four different franchises in scoring (Buffalo, Isles, Habs, Blues). Anyone else? Who else has led three? Wayne Gretzky... um...

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Selanne (Winnipeg, Anahiem, San Jose)-I think he lead San Jose a season or two, I may be wrong.

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Selanne (Winnipeg, Anahiem, San Jose)-I think he lead San Jose a season or two, I may be wrong.
You are correct, sir. Who else?

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05-21-2006, 09:18 PM
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Damphousse missed leading the Sharks in scoring by a few points several times. Pierre Turgeon led four different franchises in scoring (Buffalo, Isles, Habs, Blues). Anyone else? Who else has led three? Wayne Gretzky... um...
What was unique about Damphousse was that he did it with three different teams in three consecutive seasons: his last year with the Leafs, his only year in Edmonton and his first year in Montreal. He played multiple years in Montreal, so it wouldn't have mattered what position he finished in scoring with San Jose. Unless it can be shown that Turgeon, Gretzky, Selanne or anybody else played for three different teams in three consecutive seasons and led them in scoring, it's immaterial.

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05-22-2006, 12:39 AM
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The full list:

That's up through 2004. Not sure if this year added anyone else to the list. The guys who have made significant contributions to both teams includes Lorne Chabot, Dick Duff, Frank Mahovlich, Jacques Plante, Vincent Damphousse, and Shayne Corson.

If you include executives, you can add Dick Irvin, Frank Selke, Ken Dryden, Serge Savard, Pat Burns, probably others...
Like Mahovlich and Duff, Bert Olmstead was part of championship teams in Toronto and Montreal. I would say this was a significant contribution. His numbers were declining by time he was in Toronto but still had an impact.

Who else managed to win Cups in both organizations?

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Add to that list the man, the myth, the legend:

Marius Czerkawski
He was also waived by both teams. That has to be some kind of record (beign waived by both Leafs and Habs).

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05-22-2006, 08:37 AM
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Like Mahovlich and Duff, Bert Olmstead was part of championship teams in Toronto and Montreal. I would say this was a significant contribution.
You are correct, sir. I initially forgot about him when I threw together that paragraph. Dirty Bertie was indeed a significant player for both franchises (franchii?).

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What was unique about Damphousse was that he did it with three different teams in three consecutive seasons
Yes, yes, already got that. Have moved on to the next question of guys who have led three different franchises in scoring, period.

Add Jeremy Roenick to the list.

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Like Mahovlich and Duff, Bert Olmstead was part of championship teams in Toronto and Montreal. I would say this was a significant contribution. His numbers were declining by time he was in Toronto but still had an impact.

Who else managed to win Cups in both organizations?
Well, obviously no one in the NHL in the last 38 years can be on the list!

I'm sure SOMEONE will take the time to figure this out for me!

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05-22-2006, 05:15 PM
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Well, obviously no one in the NHL in the last 38 years can be on the list!

I'm sure SOMEONE will take the time to figure this out for me!
Among coaches, Dick Irvin is the only one, I believe. Toronto in 1931(?) and Montreal in '44, '46 and '53.

Irvin's Maple Leaf teams of the thirties were the most snakebit team, losing in the finals seven times, which might be a record for a coach. They were easily the best team of the decade, but they only won one Cup. Still, it was a mistake to let him go. He revitalised the Canadiens franchise, and along with Frank Selke (another former Leaf executive) paved the way for the dynasties to come.

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you guys are missing somebody quite obvious. Jaromir Jagr.

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