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11-05-2003, 10:25 AM
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otehr w/ no talent that shouldnt be (or have been) in the league if Webb shouldnt:

Domi
Simpson
Probert
McSorely
Oliwa
McCarthy (Sandy)

guess what, theyre called goons! theyre meant to keep youre good players from getting their heads taken off! not to mention, if youre going by points, then a lot of 3rd and 4th line role players shouldnt be in this league either. congrats, now, according to that logic, about 1/2 the nhl shouldnt be in the league.
Webb is not a goon. He is not now or ever was/is a heavyweight fighter, like some of the players mentioned.

In addition to that for instance; take Domi; in EACH of his last three seasons; he has had more points than Webb has in his entire career.

As someone pointed out, Wade Belak (whos is a heavyweight btw) is a more prolific scorer than Webb and Belak is NOT an NHL player by any means.

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11-05-2003, 10:27 AM
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Those players are goons (with Domi not so much anymore), Webb is a useless waste of space who doesnt contribute anything except injuries and cheap shots
1) he's not a cheap shot artist.
2) if his hitting doesnt contribute anything, then fighting shouldnt be considered contributions, hence the goons are useless wastes of space.

hitting is part of the gaem, just becasue thats all he does, doesnt mean he's useless. i dont think he would be around for the nhl as long as he has if he was useless.

face it, we all like hitting, its one of the reasons the game is exciting. every team has hitters, and when there is a big hit we all cheer. it adds momentum to the team and makes the fans happy. do you not cheer whenever a player on your team lays out an opposing player? if it puts a smile on your face, or makes you yell, then he's not useless.

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11-05-2003, 10:29 AM
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Webb is not a goon. He is not now or ever was/is a heavyweight fighter, like some of the players mentioned.

In addition to that for instance; take Domi; in EACH of his last three seasons; he has had more points than Webb has in his entire career.

As someone pointed out, Wade Belak (whos is a heavyweight btw) is a more prolific scorer than Webb and Belak is NOT an NHL player by any means.
i know web is not a goon. the point is just becasue people dont score doesnt mean they are useless whihc many seem to be hung up on. how many points is a 4th liner supposed to put up in today'a nhl? Domi, unlike many players, has shifted his game, so he is the rare exception.

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11-05-2003, 11:26 AM
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Who cares if Webb isn't talented if he doesn't play on your favorite team? Forth line players usually aren't expected to put up points. Webb hits clean. Tucker and Marchment are more talented, but are two of the dirtiest players in the NHL. Nolan and Domi are also known to be dirty, so Nolan is just a hypocrite.

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11-05-2003, 11:31 AM
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Who cares if Webb isn't talented if he doesn't play on your favorite team? Forth line players usually aren't expected to put up points. Webb hits clean. Tucker and Marchment are more talented, but are two of the dirtiest players in the NHL. Nolan and Domi are also known to be dirty, so Nolan is just a hypocrite.
Webb is barely a fourth line player and Tucker is known to be a dirty player to people who don't know much about Tucker and just blindly hate the Leafs.

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11-05-2003, 11:40 AM
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Webb is barely a fourth line player and Tucker is known to be a dirty player to people who don't know much about Tucker and just blindly hate the Leafs.
same can be said for any other player on any other team. so why are people taking shots at Webb? it would be hypocritical wouldnt it? how do we know people jsut blindy hate the Pens or isles so they dont know much about Webb so they make stuff up?

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Who cares if Webb isn't talented if he doesn't play on your favorite team? Forth line players usually aren't expected to put up points. Webb hits clean. Tucker and Marchment are more talented, but are two of the dirtiest players in the NHL. Nolan and Domi are also known to be dirty, so Nolan is just a hypocrite.
the difference being that Webb will turtle when challenged for being dirty...the rest don't.

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11-05-2003, 11:42 AM
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how do we know people jsut blindy hate the Pens or isles so they dont know much about Webb so they make stuff up?
how could you hate those lovable losers?

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11-05-2003, 11:57 AM
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bah, this discussion is no good...they are all cheap in their own unique way...except maybe domi, other than a couple incidents.

Webb- Runs around looking for hits,
Marchment - no need to discuss, we've all seen him in action
Tucker - jumps when he hits people
Nolan - puts elbows up when he gets hit...ended Jeff Beukaboom's career

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11-05-2003, 01:41 PM
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the difference being that Webb will turtle when challenged for being dirty...the rest don't.
in the last 5 years, Webb has fought:
Paul Laus X2, Kelly Chase, Louie Debrusk, Luke Richardson, Scott Stevens, Ian Laperriere, Craig Berube X2, Darren McCarty, Gino Odjick, Sylvain Blouin, Dale Purinton, Darcy Hordichuk X2, Darius Kasparaitis, Colin White, Michael Rupp, Joey Tetarenko, Brad May, Brad Brown, Ryan VandenBussche, Mike Wilson, Nolan Pratt, Kevin Sawyer, Grant Marshall, Lyle Odelein, Reed Low,
Rob Ray, Steve Staios, Owen Nolan

Well Webb is untalented (besides hitting, which is a talent), he is a high energy player, a good pest, and a value to a team. And while he has turtled and hid before (which is part of what a pest does) he has backed up his hits in the past.

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11-05-2003, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Raider Zero
otehr w/ no talent that shouldnt be (or have been) in the league if Webb shouldnt:

Domi
Simpson
Probert
McSorely
Oliwa
McCarthy (Sandy)

guess what, theyre called goons! theyre meant to keep youre good players from getting their heads taken off! not to mention, if youre going by points, then a lot of 3rd and 4th line role players shouldnt be in this league either. congrats, now, according to that logic, about 1/2 the nhl shouldnt be in the league.
Even Todd Simpson the defenseman has twice as many goals and almost 4 times the points. You know why? He will actually handle the puck Webb avoids it like the plague 'cause he probably couldn't have the puck on his stick and skate at the same time. He also know it would make him a legal target for a check, and that would take guts something he isn't exactly known for.

You insult those goons by including Webb in there.

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11-05-2003, 03:10 PM
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damn, people really hate Webb. but im willing to be those that hate him are mad cause he checked one of their players in the past and just cant deal with it. i'm willing to bet they even like players like him who hit all the time. he's in the league and theres nothing you can do to change it. you want to hate him, fine, but dont be dumb and say he is useless and brings nothing.

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11-05-2003, 04:20 PM
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damn, people really hate Webb. but im willing to be those that hate him are mad cause he checked one of their players in the past and just cant deal with it. i'm willing to bet they even like players like him who hit all the time. he's in the league and theres nothing you can do to change it. you want to hate him, fine, but dont be dumb and say he is useless and brings nothing.
He brings something, disgrace to the game.

I'd be embarrassed to have him on my team.

Heck all Leaf fans are embarrassed by Belak and he's twice the player, though that is saying nothing.

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11-05-2003, 04:30 PM
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yeah, well, i like hitting, it gives momentum to the team and gets the crowd into the game. isles fans liked him, and Pens fans like him so far. you can say he's a disgrace all you want, but if it makes the game more exciting im all for it.

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