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05-30-2006, 10:18 PM
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What if Koivu retired...

This is a "what if" thread, out of curiosity...

If Koivu's vision is not back by training camp and he has to retire and you are Bob Gainey, what would you do? Where would you start looking for a replacement and who would you name captain??

I say let's try to trade for a Brendan Morrison or Robert Lang, or sign Arnott at the risk of overpaying, keep Ribeiro and hope for him to get back to old form and let the players choose the next captain, which might turn out to be Begin or Rivet.

Kostsitsyn - Ribeiro - Kovalev
Higgins - Lang/Morrison/Arnott - Ryder
Perezhogin - Plekanec - Rookie (Lapierre??)
Murray - Bonk - Begin

Humm... I wonder if a lineup like this would go far??

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I'd rather not talk about it.

Saku will come back, and lead us to a Cup someday

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05-31-2006, 12:17 AM
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I'd rather not talk about it.

Saku will come back, and lead us to a Cup someday
And that someday could be next year.

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And that someday could be next year.
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Is that a "prediction"?

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Is that a "prediction"?
No, it's an uncontestable fact.

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05-31-2006, 08:46 AM
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If Koivu retired we'd be picking top 5 next year. Especially with that line up you propose, Ribs showed nothing when Saku went down and to put him in the no.1 position would be a nightmare.

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05-31-2006, 08:56 AM
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If Koivu retired we'd be picking top 5 next year. Especially with that line up you propose, Ribs showed nothing when Saku went down and to put him in the no.1 position would be a nightmare.
A-freakin'-men.

Incidentally, I can't see any of Arnott, Lang or Morrison playing second fiddle to Ribeiro and sadly none of those 4 provides the leadership that Koivu does.

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Then we should try to bring Lecavalier to MTL

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A-freakin'-men.

Incidentally, I can't see any of Arnott, Lang or Morrison playing second fiddle to Ribeiro and sadly none of those 4 provides the leadership that Koivu does.
That's the point, and I don't believe in such a lineup either... But how can we replace Koivu in one summer? I can't see how... And since Koivu is gone, Ribeiro has to stay, which isn't good at all

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Then we should try to bring Lecavalier to MTL
Even if Koivu doesn't retire we should get Vinny...

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Even if Koivu doesn't retire we should get Vinny...
Drop Vinny...he's not that amazing frig. I wanted him for a while but I still don't think he's exploded yet.

Yes I know he won a Stanley Cup, T.Henry won a World Cup, and didn't come into his own until a few years later, so even so, Vinny could get better, will it be so?

Is Vinny even available?

He must be hitting himself on his head for signing that contract, cuz look at what Richards makes...he shoulda just came over to MTL...he wanted to be the Franchise...ain't so no more...

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We'd get a special compensation pick either Crosby or Ovechkin.

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Then we should try to bring Lecavalier to MTL
Exactly.

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Even if Koivu doesn't retire we should get Vinny...
Even better.

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No, it's an uncontestable fact.
Yes, agreed, it is a fact, but next year???
Not likely...

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we will have to be active on UFA if Koivu retire ..

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I'd rather not talk about it.

Saku will come back, and lead us to a Cup someday
maybe a cup of coffee, not stanley

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we will have to be active on UFA if Koivu retire ..
We should still be active on the UFA/trade market even if he doesn't retire imo.

Saku is injury prone and Ribs is not exactly the replacement we need in case something happens.We need an insurance policy

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What if Koivu retired...

it will be the end of one of the sadest era of the Hbas ; sad , because the addition of bad injuries , bad trades , bad draft choices and bad decisions .

What kind of team we would have had , if Houle didn't trade Turgeon for Corson ? what if they have drafted Gagné , and not Chouinard ? what if Saku would have had a less injured career ?

It would be a sad day , but i would take it as the end of a bad chapter . Sure , we would have to find a replacement to play his role , but i don't see it as something impossible ; Saku isn't a big scorer or a big pointer , and we have now plenty players that can play the his defensive game .

But how to replace his desire and his heart ? That is the difficult part .

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maybe a cup of coffee, not stanley
a troll I see...go to ur troll board.

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What if Koivu retired...

it will be the end of one of the sadest era of the Hbas ; sad , because the addition of bad injuries , bad trades , bad draft choices and bad decisions .

What kind of team we would have had , if Houle didn't trade Turgeon for Corson ? what if they have drafted Gagné , and not Chouinard ? what if Saku would have had a less injured career ?

It would be a sad day , but i would take it as the end of a bad chapter . Sure , we would have to find a replacement to play his role , but i don't see it as something impossible ; Saku isn't a big scorer or a big pointer , and we have now plenty players that can play the his defensive game .

But how to replace his desire and his heart ? That is the difficult part .
Agreed. Basically it'd be the the end of an era that had so much hope but that was undercut by well reality.

It would also end the ridiculous language debate on his captaincy (just tonight I was watching face a face and both idiots were going crazy over the fact that he said bonjour on PJ Stock's show) though I wonder if it ended today; was it a sucessful captaincy? Can Montreal accept a non-french speaking, european captain?

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Well that's the spirit

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Since his huge contract, every time i hear the name Koivu, i just keep thinking about the fact we won't have a no.1 center for the next 3 years, godamn he's overpaid, and that good for nothing NTC

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Since his huge contract, every time i hear the name Koivu, i just keep thinking about the fact we won't have a no.1 center for the next 3 years, godamn he's overpaid, and that good for nothing NTC

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