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05-31-2006, 09:00 AM
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Rangers set to offer Chara $8m according to Ottawa Sun

http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Sena...07255-sun.html

Seems like they want to come out of the gate strong ...awfull lot of $ for one guy though

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http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Sena...07255-sun.html

Seems like they want to come out of the gate strong ...awfull lot of $ for one guy though
You have to look at who wrote the article!!! Garrioch is a moron!! Does anything he write actually come true??

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bruce's job is to sell newspapers, so he goes to the old hand and says NYR will throw money at another UFA.
yet it wasn't NYR who spent big dollars on UFA last year right ?

Craig Patrick and the Penguins did
The Bruins did
The icelanders did
the Devils did
the fly boyz did

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05-31-2006, 09:30 AM
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Chara is one of the few players in this year's UFA corps, who is worth breaking the bank for. You know that Maloney is craving to get one of his former draft picks (Chara & Redden) back into the fold.

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$8mm...

is probably about what it will take to get Chara. Is he worth it? Well, if the cap goes up, the Rangers can afford it, and someone like him is needed.

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I have no problems with that deal, especially since we're getting rid of a few salaries from last season.

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The only thing Garrioch is good at is contract stuff, so he's not a complete joke. He's usually right on when it comes to Ottawa contract situations, so he could be onto something here with Chara.

I think someone will toss the money at Chara, but who it is I don't know. I don't think it will be Ottawa.

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Chara is one of the few players in this year's UFA corps, who is worth breaking the bank for. You know that Maloney is craving to get one of his former draft picks (Chara & Redden) back into the fold.
Don Maloney wasn't the GM when the Islanders drafted Zdeno Chara.Maloney was a pro scout with the Sharks by then

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I find it hard to believe the Rangers will toss $8 million per for Zdeno Chara

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I find it hard to believe the Rangers will toss $8 million per for Zdeno Chara
Why?

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Don Maloney wasn't the GM when the Islanders drafted Zdeno Chara.Maloney was a pro scout with the Sharks by then
There was a report earlier in year that linked both Redden and Chara as Maloney products.

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There was a report earlier in year that linked both Redden and Chara as Maloney products.
Redden is, but was traded for Bryan Berard. As for Chara, I'm pretty sure he was after the Maloney regime.

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For the Rangers to be able to sign Chara away from the Sens, the Rangers have to satisfy two conditions for it to happen, and one is out of their control more then likely:

1.)Chara has to WANT to leave Ottawa
2.)The Rangers have to throw more money at him then Ottawa is able to. (This will probably have to be in the 7-8 million range)

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There was a report earlier in year that linked both Redden and Chara as Maloney products.
The report was wrong.Mike Milbury was the Isles GM during the 1996 draft.Don Maloney had been fired during the 1995-96 season and was replaced by Milbury who Maloney had hired as head coach

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For the Rangers to be able to sign Chara away from the Sens, the Rangers have to satisfy two conditions for it to happen, and one is out of their control more then likely:

1.)Chara has to WANT to leave Ottawa
2.)The Rangers have to throw more money at him then Ottawa is able to. (This will probably have to be in the 7-8 million range)
You really think Chara's not going to want big money when he knows he's worth it? The Rangers are an up and coming team that's going to offer him the highest dollar. What more motivation to leave do you need? They could realistically win a cup within the next 5 years with the way they're going.

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Why?
$8 million?When did Chara become the best defenseman in the NHL?Where are his Norris Trohpies?Hart Trophies?Cup rings?I don't see them

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What scares me is not the $8M per year this year but what happens when Our Young picks come UFA ie Lundquist, Prucha etc. Will the Rangers be in Cap Hell in 3 years because Chara got a 5 year max money contract? Would we end up losing one of our prized players?

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Will the Rangers be in Cap Hell in 3 years because Chara got a 5 year max money contract? Would we end up losing one of our prized players?
Not if you use the cap wisely, continue to develop the farm and promote from within and not go crazy with the amount of UFA contracts that are handed out. You CAN sign very good UFA's and develop your own prospects and not wind up in cap hell. Just look at the Patriots of the NFL. I understand that it is two different sports, but the theory remains the same.

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Not if you use the cap wisely, continue to develop the farm and promote from within and not go crazy with the amount of UFA contracts that are handed out. You CAN sign very good UFA's and develop your own prospects and not wind up in cap hell. Just look at the Patriots of the NFL. I understand that it is two different sports, but the theory remains the same.
You hit it dead on. That's why if we sign Chara, and maybe a center, ala Sakic or Weight as a stop-gap guy for a year or two, and another defender maybe like a McKee, and then bring up the young guys, we'd have nothing to worry about.

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$8 million?When did Chara become the best defenseman in the NHL?Where are his Norris Trohpies?Hart Trophies?Cup rings?I don't see them
It's not necessarily the accomplishments, it's moreso the market.

Remember when we terribly overpaid Bobby Holik 9 million a year? I do. Jersey said they would only give him 5, Holik got greedy. 7 came from Philly, Toronto upped it to 8, Philly and Toronto went 8.5 and we went all-in at 9, and got him.

He only got that money because he was the only decent UFA center available, and 3 teams were willing to overpay terribly for him.

Supply and demand.

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Jersey said they would only give him 5, Holik got greedy. 7 came from Philly, Toronto upped it to 8, Philly and Toronto went 8.5 and we went all-in at 9, and got him.

He only got that money because he was the only decent UFA center available, and 3 teams were willing to overpay terribly for him.

Supply and demand.
Actually, not true. The Devils offered him $8.25m/per year.

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You really think Chara's not going to want big money when he knows he's worth it? The Rangers are an up and coming team that's going to offer him the highest dollar. What more motivation to leave do you need? They could realistically win a cup within the next 5 years with the way they're going.

Ever hear of the hometown discount? If he likes it in Ottawa, a team that can win the cup NEXT year if most of the team stays together. If a player likes playing where he is he will take a million or so pay cut to stay with the team. Maybe he doesn't want to move his family? Who knows. Money doesn't drive all people.

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Ever hear of the hometown discount? If he likes it in Ottawa, a team that can win the cup NEXT year if most of the team stays together. If a player likes playing where he is he will take a million or so pay cut to stay with the team. Maybe he doesn't want to move his family? Who knows. Money doesn't drive all people.
This is a European we're talking about here, money drives about 95% of them, and in no way shape or form is that an insult towards Europeans, but it's been proven. A lot of the Europeans in the NHL are more money driven than the North Americans.

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This maybe true, but that again is a generalization. Most people anywhere would go after the money, but there still is the few people that are in it for the game and live and breathe for their teams. I want the Rangers to sign Chara as much as the next Rangers fan, I'm just saying don't think he will just based on the fact that the Rangers are willing to throw the most money at him (which probably wont be the case, there will be 1 or 2 other teams with cap space that will probably try to do the same) that he will sign with the Rangers

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Regardless of whether he is European or not (there are a lot of North Americans breaking the bank too, look at Tampa Bay), it's his first crack at a UFA contract and you can't really blame him if he wants to generate the kind of contract that should fix him up nicely for the rest of his life.

In hockey, nothing is a guarantee.

You may have to retire due to injury unexpectedly. I'm sure that's what his agent is telling him.

Chara has played in a less than competitive atmosphere with the Islanders and may wish to stay with a contender. However, the Rangers are a playoff team and I can't see any reason why he wouldn't sign here.

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