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05-31-2006, 04:31 PM
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McCabe Signs with Maple Leafs

Its a 5 Year deal worth between $5.5 million US and $6 million per year. McCabe would have been an unrestricted free agent on July 1. He earned $3.458 million US last season when he was third among all NHL defencemen in goals and points.
What do you guys think about this.

I heard a guy on the Fan talking and he is right.
THey now have 10 million tied up on Kabrele and McCabe.
I think that is 2 much money to have locked up. But i guess u have to do what u have to do. Every players wants to make as much as he can!

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He also got a No Movement Clause.

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I think this puts more perspective on how much defensemen are worth in the new NHL. Redden and Chara should get $6.5 or seven million or more. Tough nut for Ottawa to crack.

On the other hand Kaberle and McCabe will be on the ice for half the game. The other four guys will handle about 15 mins each. God help 'em if there is a long term injury.


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Not only that, but neither McCabe nor Kaberle is anything better than average defensively(that's being extremely generous in McCabe's favour)...to have that much locked up in two offensive blueliners is unfortunate...I think they would have been better off keeping Kaberle and pursuing other options with their five mill.

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Corvo=McCabe

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TSN is a little more forgiving about his defensive qualities:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=987&hubname=nhl-maple_leafs

and nobody's perfect.

The number that jumps out at me from the returning players the Leafs have is Belfour @ $4 million plus. How do they say in your language...Yipes!


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TSN is a little more forgiving about his defensive qualities:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/...hl-maple_leafs

and nobody's perfect.

The number that jumps out at me from the returning players the Leafs have is Belfore @ $4 million plus. How do they say in your language...Yipes!
I think Toronto has a team option on Belfour. They will let him walk.

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The Maple Leafs have been slowly becoming the new Rangers. Ferguson needs to be canned before he completely ruins that team.

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I'd like to know how he's been a part of them becoming the Rangers when he's only had the job for one season and has a ton of cap room. The Kaberle deal was awesome, so I don't get where you're coming from.
Ferguson has had the job for three years, and I'm not a big fan of the direction that the team has gone in in that time. I should be a bit easier on him, though, since he did finally fire Quinn and hire Maurice.

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I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 8.

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I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 8.
But I'd rather have Miller, Norstrom, and Visnovsky for 10 than McCabe and Kaberle for 10.

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Too bad we're not the GM's.

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I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 8.
Well then, it is a good thing we dont have Miller and Norstrom locked up for 8 million

Norstrom = 4.25million
Miller = 2.47million
Total = 6.72 million

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Well then, it is a good thing we dont have Miller and Norstrom locked up for 8 million

Norstrom = 4.25million
Miller = 2.47million
Total = 6.72 million
I'd like to change my original statement. I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 6.72 million. That's 1.68 million dollars a goal.

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I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 6.72 million.
Would you still prefer them in 2-3 years to the players that the Kings will get with the freed up money? Price isn't the only issue.


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I'd like to change my original statement. I'd rather have McCabe and Kaberle for 10 mil than Miller and Norstrom for 6.72 million. That's 1.68 million dollars a goal.
How bout we calculate the cost of every terrible play that McCabe makes that results in a goal.

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Would you, though, prefer them in 2-3 years to the replacements that the Kings will have for Miller and Norstrom? Price isn't the only issue.
Yes. The problem with the Kings is they are paying players who do not produce. Say what you want about McCabe and Kaberle but they are putting up points, 107 points combined while only a minus 2 on a team that didn't make the playoffs. Miller and Norstrom combined for 35 points and a minus 9 for 2 guys who rarely enter the offensive zone. Mike Weaver outscored Aaron Miller.

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By that logic, Tikkanen, Corvo is more useful and deserving of money than Norstrom, which is just ridiculous. Hey, I'm with you in thinking that Norstrom's new contract is frightfully expensive, but I'd never go as far as you as to suggest that points are everything. IMO, you need to prove that you can score and defend in order to be worth more than $3M in my book.

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The Kings and Leafs both allowed the same amount of goals (270). The Leafs ended the season with 41 wins and 90 points. The Kings with 42 wins and 89 points.

Norstrom's extension is for two more seasons. Next season will be the last year on Miller's contract.

Now I think Kaberle is worth the money and the terms he was signed to, but the Leafs grossly overpaid McCabe and gave him a "no movement" clause. That is a terrible contract.

There is a reason why most Leafs fans didn't want to see McCabe back, even with the number of goals and points he accumulated.

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Yes. The problem with the Kings is they are paying players who do not produce. Say what you want about McCabe and Kaberle but they are putting up points, 107 points combined while only a minus 2 on a team that didn't make the playoffs. Miller and Norstrom combined for 35 points and a minus 9 for 2 guys who rarely enter the offensive zone. Mike Weaver outscored Aaron Miller.
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do you know what the job of a defender is?

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By that logic, Tikkanen, Corvo is more useful and deserving of money than Norstrom, which is just ridiculous. Hey, I'm with you in thinking that Norstrom's new contract is frightfully expensive, but I'd never go as far as you as to suggest that points are everything. IMO, you need to prove that you can score and defend in order to be worth more than $3M in my book.
unfortunately, its not what you think the player is worth, it's what the market that dictates what a player is worth. You can say all you want, but if you were GM of a team, you would never get anyone signed if you wouldn't be willing to pay the market value. For some strange reason, player contracts have shot up this season, so in order to accomodate, you have to open up the pocket book. I don't agree w/ the Norstrom signing, but looking at what defenders are getting paid, I don't see why he couldnt have gotten that number easily on the market.

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Not only that, but neither McCabe nor Kaberle is anything better than average defensively(that's being extremely generous in McCabe's favour)...to have that much locked up in two offensive blueliners is unfortunate...I think they would have been better off keeping Kaberle and pursuing other options with their five mill.
McCabe is average defensively. Kaberle is solid defensively.

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TSN is a little more forgiving about his defensive qualities:
of course they are. thats TSN's "home team". If McCabe were in say New York or Philly they would have no problems talking about him not really being that good defensivly. Serious overpayment IMO

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McCabe is average defensively. Kaberle is solid defensively.
ACtually, McCabe is mediocre defensively, but no one notices cause he looks good on the stats sheet

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ACtually, McCabe is mediocre defensively, but no one notices cause he looks good on the stats sheet
Mediocre and average are the same thing.

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Here's an interesting thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...16#post5648716

How much will Jovo get? Mitchell? McKee? Corvo?

...and LGK has a thread that has XM saying the Rangers are going $8 million for Chara.

What's next, Mike Weaver $1.75 million?
Jay Wells coaxed out of retirement for the League minimum?

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