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11-05-2003, 08:03 AM
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Phoenix - Edmonton Proposal

With the rumors going around Lowe has benn talking to Phoenix how about a trade going down like:

Edmonton - Vaananen, Kolanos, Spiller
Pheonix - Comrie, Horcoff, Ferguson

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11-05-2003, 12:11 PM
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Blech.

Comrie>Kolanos (barely, IMO)
Vaananen>Ferguson and Horcoff
and then there is Spiller who is the only rookie on the roster this year.

No way will the Coyotes take on that salary anyway unless someone like Savage or Boosh is going the other way.

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11-05-2003, 12:20 PM
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With the rumors going around Lowe has benn talking to Phoenix how about a trade going down like:

Edmonton - Vaananen, Kolanos, Spiller
Pheonix - Comrie, Horcoff, Ferguson
I think this is just stupid, sorry to be so rash.

But why would the coyotes trade their best Dman and the up and coming supposed #1? Hes look great so far.

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Comrie>Kolanos (barely, IMO)
I'm fairly interested to hear your explanation as to how Comrie is just barely better than Kolanos..

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I'm fairly interested to hear your explanation as to how Comrie is just barely better than Kolanos..
Well, he's outscoring him 2-0 this season :p

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I'm fairly interested to hear your explanation as to how Comrie is just barely better than Kolanos..
On the flipside

how is a smaller, more money greedy comrie worlds better than Krys?

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Blech.

Comrie>Kolanos (barely, IMO)
Vaananen>Ferguson and Horcoff
and then there is Spiller who is the only rookie on the roster this year.

No way will the Coyotes take on that salary anyway unless someone like Savage or Boosh is going the other way.
barely? Comrie is 10 times the player Kolanos is.

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11-05-2003, 12:50 PM
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On the flipside

how is a smaller, more money greedy comrie worlds better than Krys?
The stats speak for themselves. Comrie crushes Kolanos in every department.

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11-05-2003, 12:52 PM
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hey , kolanos did get 22 points one year. Sure he is comming off a concussion which kept him out of hockey for a season, but these things are way over-blown. Just ask Paul Comrie.

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The stats speak for themselves. Comrie crushes Kolanos in every department.
You do realise hes been injured right?
And there are more things to trade value then just points

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You do realise hes been injured right?
And there are more things to trade value then just points

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I agree.. and I don't think that Kolanos is a bad player by any means. However, stats usually give you a fairly decent basis for a player.. at the moment, I (and I'm fairly certain most hockey fans) believe Comrie is miles ahead of Kolanos. It is entirely possible that Krys will develop into a great player but I don't think the two are even comparable at this point!

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11-05-2003, 01:01 PM
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You do realise hes been injured right?
And there are more things to trade value then just points

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Yes and for the games he did play he hasn't shown anything to make anyone think he's better than Comrie.

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Kolanos is no where the Comrie level. And to bring up Kolanos' injury problems is foolish as his concusion problems only diminish his value!

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With the rumors going around Lowe has benn talking to Phoenix how about a trade going down like:

Edmonton - Vaananen, Kolanos, Spiller
Pheonix - Comrie, Horcoff, Ferguson

Phoenix is unlikely to give up too much youth even with Comrie coming the other way. We're a team rebuilding that is predicted to finish dead last in the NHL not a team looking to turn the immediate season around.

Just to speculate on a Phoenix offer:
Kolanos, Boucher, Nazarov, 2nd round pick, $$ (part of Boucher's contract)

for

Comrie, Laraque.

Probably not enough in the eyes of Oiler fans but the market for 5'9" players isn't what it used to be.

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11-05-2003, 01:39 PM
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Nazarov is a downgrade from Laraque, and the Oilers have no need for Boucher. So to translate your idea...

Kolanos, 2nd

for

Comrie, Oilers pick up half of Boucher's salary.

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11-05-2003, 01:43 PM
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I agree Comrie is better than Kolanos at this point, but it's far from "worlds".

Comrie is 5'9" whereas Kolanos is 6'3", and Kolanos is a much more physical player.
More importantly, however, Kolanos is a much better two-way player. The Coyotes want players that can be effective even when they don't put points on the board. They had Briere (I know Comrie is a much better player than Briere, but for comparisons sake) who could do nothing but score, but when he wasn't scoring, he wasn't doing anything. Kolanos can do things other than score. As good of a player Comrie may be, his defensive deficiencies will prevent him from being a #1 center, whereas Kolanos has that potential.

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I agree Comrie is better than Kolanos at this point, but it's far from "worlds".

Comrie is 5'9" whereas Kolanos is 6'3", and Kolanos is a much more physical player.
More importantly, however, Kolanos is a much better two-way player. The Coyotes want players that can be effective even when they don't put points on the board. They had Briere (I know Comrie is a much better player than Briere, but for comparisons sake) who could do nothing but score, but when he wasn't scoring, he wasn't doing anything. Kolanos can do things other than score. As good of a player Comrie may be, his defensive deficiencies will prevent him from being a #1 center, whereas Kolanos has that potential.
Yzerman, Forsberg etc. all took years to get good at defence. It will be the same for Comrie.

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Kolanos is no where the Comrie level. And to bring up Kolanos' injury problems is foolish as his concusion problems only diminish his value!

Well put. Comrie is much better than Kolanos. He's proved about as much as Brendl has thus far in his career.

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Comrie's a better player right now, but I'd rather keep Kolanos. His upside is rather large and he's proven the ability to at worst be a decent two-way forward. I'm certainly not a fan of Comrie's so my opinion of his won't be balanced in the least. But the Yotes had slightly lessar version of him in Briere, and decided to part ways. The Yotes don't need a small scorer in the middle, and don't need to part with one of their most promising young forwards to do it.

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Well put. Comrie is much better than Kolanos. He's proved about as much as Brendl has thus far in his career.
You can't possibly compare Brendl to Kolanos. Aside from totally different playing style, Kolanos is just a better player. I'll choose to move on from here, because if you made a statement like that, you are either trying to start a fight,

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Yzerman, Forsberg etc. all took years to get good at defence. It will be the same for Comrie.
Fair enough, but what about someone like Kolanos, who is already good at defense?

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