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06-07-2006, 03:48 PM
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Ron Hainsey? Beauchemin?

How did the Habs lose Hainsey? (I forget!).
Was it waivers? Free agency?
If so, it was the Columbus Blue Jackets, right?
We didn't get anything back, right?
And...
How did we lose Beauchemin? (was it waivers, as well?). And, what team did he go to prior to the Ducks? Or, was it the Ducks only right after his brief stay with the Canadiens.
Let's just say, we have Bouillon and J-P Coté instead of Beauchemin. Can't keep 'em all, although I wished we could! .
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Thanks in advance for your info . Merci pour l'info .

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The lost Hainsey this year by weaver and beauchemin too (2 year ago ?? im not sure) and we have sign JP Coter by free agensy

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Hainsey :
29-Nov-05: Claimed off waivers from the Montreal Canadiens.
Beauchemin:
14-Sep-04: Columbus Blue Jackets claimed off waivers Franois Beauchemin from the Montreal Canadiens.

They will claim Coté this year .

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06-07-2006, 04:08 PM
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Hainsey because of the idiotic must-go-back-on-waivers-if-making-75K-or-more-in-the-minors-and-you-get-called-up rule they abolished a few months ago deeming it unfair for minor league veterans.

Beauchemin was lost on waivers because Doug McLean is a snake and the only GM who made waiver claims on the eve of the lockout (Habs wanted Beauchemin in Hamilton for the lockout). I've heard (OK, it was from Michel Bergeron on CKAC about 2 weeks ago) that Gainey had talked to every GM and they basically gave Bob their word they would not claim Beauchemin and McLean obviously was the only one who decided to break his word. This is a MICHEL BERGERON story so put what you want in it.

I'm not sure Cote gets claimed if he does end up going on the waiver wire next fall. Beauchemin had good AHL offensive numbers and Hainsey had the first round pick pedigree going for them, Cote has neither. The Habs are more than due for some good luck on the waiver wire, if a Jason Pominville can go unclaimed, JP Cote should go unclaimed...

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06-07-2006, 04:17 PM
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McLean is a known snake, but it doenst matter as he's close to the worst GM in the league.

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Beauchemin was lost on waivers because Doug McLean is a snake and the only GM who made waiver claims on the eve of the lockout (Habs wanted Beauchemin in Hamilton for the lockout). I've heard (OK, it was from Michel Bergeron on CKAC about 2 weeks ago) that Gainey had talked to every GM and they basically gave Bob their word they would not claim Beauchemin and McLean obviously was the only one who decided to break his word. This is a MICHEL BERGERON story so put what you want in it.

I can remember an article or something back around when that happened where Gainey said that he was surprised when Beauchemin got claimed because he had shopped him around the league before waiving him, and nobody said they were interested. Anyone else remember that? It would make more sense to me than the stuff Bergeron said.

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Hainsey because of the idiotic must-go-back-on-waivers-if-making-75K-or-more-in-the-minors-and-you-get-called-up rule they abolished a few months ago deeming it unfair for minor league veterans.
What? Really, they flushed that rule?

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What? Really, they flushed that rule?
Yep. This was from HF in early Febuary and I read it in THN as well...

"Got my issue of Hockey News today and in the "Hockey World in Brief" section it says Larry Landon, Ted Saskin, and Bill Daly met and that Landon, head of the Professional Hockey Players Association thinks the waiver rule requiring players who make more than 75,000 in the minors to go through re-entry waivers is against US labor laws. Said there was a "tentative agreement" reached in a few areas."

So they took it out.

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Yep. This was from HF in early Febuary and I read it in THN as well...

"Got my issue of Hockey News today and in the "Hockey World in Brief" section it says Larry Landon, Ted Saskin, and Bill Daly met and that Landon, head of the Professional Hockey Players Association thinks the waiver rule requiring players who make more than 75,000 in the minors to go through re-entry waivers is against US labor laws. Said there was a "tentative agreement" reached in a few areas."

So they took it out.
Damn, they should have took it out before

but still

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McLean is a known snake, but it doenst matter as he's close to the worst GM in the league.

A stupid one like you said... so he goes to pick up Beauchemin and trade him in a trade with Anaheim who were so happy to dump overpaid, underachieving, I couldn't care less anymore Fedorov !

Right after the trade, Anaheim started to fare much better !

And snake McLean will slide on the floor for a long time with Fedorov.

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Hainsey :
29-Nov-05: Claimed off waivers from the Montreal Canadiens.
Beauchemin:
14-Sep-04: Columbus Blue Jackets claimed off waivers Franois Beauchemin from the Montreal Canadiens.

They will claim Coté this year .
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I can remember an article or something back around when that happened where Gainey said that he was surprised when Beauchemin got claimed because he had shopped him around the league before waiving him, and nobody said they were interested. Anyone else remember that? It would make more sense to me than the stuff Bergeron said.
It makes no sense to me: Beauchemin played for Seracuse during the lockout..... so he had to be waived to play in the AHL, meaning Gainey didn't want Beauchemin.

Still, as mentioned in an other thread about Beauchemin, I remember I was one of the only ones being pist by that lost........ a lot of posters were typing: career AHLer or 7th D-man........... playing with Niedermayer helps but still, he will have a nice career.

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It makes no sense to me: Beauchemin played for Seracuse during the lockout..... so he had to be waived to play in the AHL, meaning Gainey didn't want Beauchemin.

Still, as mentioned in an other thread about Beauchemin, I remember I was one of the only ones being pist by that lost........ a lot of posters were typing: career AHLer or 7th D-man........... playing with Niedermayer helps but still, he will have a nice career.
I was upset by it too. I remember the choice came down to keeping Hainsey or Beachemin and I knew we made the wrong one. Saw both of them in Hamilton and it was obvious to me that Hollywood Ron did not have what it takes.

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It makes no sense to me: Beauchemin played for Seracuse during the lockout..... so he had to be waived to play in the AHL, meaning Gainey didn't want Beauchemin.
Incorrect. There was a loophole that Gainey must not have been aware of that allowed players to sign with an AHL team during the lockout. Columbus picked up Beauchemin off of waivers and then Syracuse signed him to an AHL contract (See the link below). It's the same way that Begin ended up playing for Hamilton. Gainey made a mistake. He should have waited until the lockout started and then had Hamilton sign Beauchemin to a contract.

http://www.syracusecrunch.com/press/...play&pr_id=905

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I'm not really familiar with why people call Hainsey: Hollywood Ron...is he an a-hole or something? I've heard that term a lot.

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I'm not really familiar with why people call Hainsey: Hollywood Ron...is he an a-hole or something? I've heard that term a lot.
....basically.

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