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06-06-2006, 11:43 AM
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My Thoughts on FA's for 2006-2007

My thoughts on some of our FA choices:

Defensemen:

Wade Redden: all-around solid in every area of the game. I like this guy more than Chara for the Rangers mainly because he will come cheaper, and I think his game doesnít run the risk of slowing down in later years of the contract the way Charaís game potentially could. For 6-6.5 million a year I would definitely sign him.

Zdeno Chara: at first I really wanted this guy, but 1 stellar D-man at $8 million a year isnít going to get us the cup. That having been said I donít want him tying up that kind of money which we may desperately need in the coming years.

Pavel Kubina: eh. Doesnít get me that excited and with all the talk about him his price is going to be inflated. I think there are some under the radar guys who are cheaper and not too much of a drop-off talent-wise.

Ed Jovanovski: has a big impact on games but is sometimes caught out of position. Would be expensive and hasnít played a full season since 2001-2002. What else is there to say, everyone already has their opinion on him.

Nic Havelid: solid and underrated in my opinion. With all these other big name FA defensemen I hope we go after this guy. Heís a clear top 4 defenseman, only made $1.2M last year, and while that price is sure to go up, Heís at least worth Roszivalís salary and is better. The downside is that heís 33 and anything more than a 2-year contract wouldnít be so great.

Filip Kuba: had a bit of a down year. Made about $1.7M last year. Has some pretty good offensive ability, and could QB our PP better than anyone we have right now (aside from Bozo, but Iím assuming heís gone). That alone could be a good enough reason to sign him. Heís 29, not old but not that young.

Danny Markov: my only concern with him is if he will play enough games. Heís a good puck mover AND can play physically, something we could use on our backline. However heís only played more than 60 games 3 times in 7 seasons, he made about $2.4M last season, and heís 29. I would reluctantly pass.

Willie Mitchell: pretty decent defensive defenseman. Good size and still pretty mobile. Lots of teams will probably be after him, therefore his price tag could be over $3M. That having been said I wouldnít be upset if we signed him for 2 years.

Joe Corvo: solid offense, not much D, not really physical. 3rd pairing offensive specialist on a team with decent defensemen. No interest, we already have Pock.

Cory Cross: just kidding.

Forwards:

Sergei Samsonov: will generate a lot of interest after this yearís playoffs. To be honest I would take him but only if we resign only 1 of Straka/Sykora. His injury history is pretty similar to Strakaís. Would be a good fit on Jagrís left side as he can finish, but if we resign both S&S then Prucha is pushed down which is ridiculous.

Jamie Langenbrunner-feisty winger with some offense. Could add some much needed grit. I wouldnít mind singing him for the 3rd line RW spot, other than that, rather not.

Marc Savard: gonna be too expensive, and not good defensively. Not really the type of guy the Rangers seem to want. Pass.

Doug Weight: probably will resign in St. Louis. I donít really think heís necessary for this team.

Petr Sykora: I would take Sykora back. He wants to be here, has a rocket of a shot and he can finish. Faded a little at the end of last season but has shown in the past he can perform in the playoffs.

Martin Straka: probably the toughest decision, but ultimately I think I would let him go. Heís a very hard worker, and a good set up guy, but Jagr could use a guy who can finish on his left side. Plus he will probably never have another season where he plays as many games as he did this past season.

Martin Rucinsky: everyone writes him off, but Iíd rather keep him than Straka. He can play the left side on any of the top 3 lines and isnít a liability defensively. Wouldnít be a bad move to sign him for the 2nd line with the potential of Rucinsky-Immonen-Sykora.

What I hope for:

Samsonov-Nylander-Jagr
Prucha-Immonen-Sykora
Dawes/Ward-Betts/Helminen/Dubinsky-Langenbrunner
Ortmeyer-Helminen/Moore-Hollweg/Hossa

Staal-Havelid
Tyutin-Kasparaitis
Malik-Rachunek

The last 2 lines I think are a toss up depending on who impresses out of camp. Still think weíre weak up the middle, and Nylanderís contract I see as a problem because heís not really a 1st line center but if you put him on the 2nd then thereís no place for Immonen. Not saying Immonen has the rights to the 2nd line spot but he at least deserves a shot.

On D, Staal is probably the only one who is ready to make the jump. Staal, Pock, and Rachunek can fight it out for the 2 open spots.

These are just my thoughts.

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What about Jason Arnott? Of all available forwards I think that he fits this team best.

As for Straka, I believe he must be brought back.

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I we let go of Straka I'd rather see

Prucha-Nylander-Jagr
Dawes-Savard/Immonen-Sykora
Hollweg-Betts-Ward
Moore-Helminen-Ortmeyer

as for defense I don't really know but a pair of Redden and a rookie (Staal), Kaspar, Tyutin and maybe Malik and Pock or maybe Baranka?

Remember that it is about rebuilding

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no to arnott

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06-06-2006, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Entrancemperium
I we let go of Straka I'd rather see

Prucha-Nylander-Jagr
Dawes-Savard/Immonen-Sykora
Hollweg-Betts-Ward
Moore-Helminen-Ortmeyer

as for defense I don't really know but a pair of Redden and a rookie (Staal), Kaspar, Tyutin and maybe Malik and Pock or maybe Baranka?

Remember that it is about rebuilding
It's about rebuilding but you can't just hand players spots. Dawes can't be given the 2nd line spot, he has to earn it. If Dawes ended up playing really well then the vet you sign for the left side becomes expendable, which would be a bonus. But the left side above looks pretty weak to me, and if Prucha gets hurt then you are screwed.

Redden would be nice but with all the suitors out there I don't think we get him without paying at least 7M. In that case I pass and would take a solid D man in Havelid.

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What about Jason Arnott? Of all available forwards I think that he fits this team best.

As for Straka, I believe he must be brought back.
I don't see Arnott as a solution for any of the Rangers problems. Immonen is not going to center the 3rd line. He needs to be with guys who can score and then we will see what he can do. If we have Nylander and Arnott as our top 2 centers, there is no room for him and to be honest another year in the AHL is useless for him. He needs to either prove he can make the 2nd line or be dealt.

And why must Straka be brought back? He's a good player but he can't finish, and since Nylander is already signed there is already a setup guy on each of the top two lines. Consider this:

Straka-Nylander-Jagr or Straka-Immonen-Sykora

Either way you have two setup guys on each line. Jagr doesn't need another year of playing with two guys who just pass back to him and are only good for slightly more than 20 goals. Since Nylander is already in the middle, he needs a scorer on the left side, a la Samsonov or Prucha.

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We arnott going to get Arnott.

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id rather have savard like someone said up there. NO to arnott

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It's about rebuilding but you can't just hand players spots. Dawes can't be given the 2nd line spot, he has to earn it. If Dawes ended up playing really well then the vet you sign for the left side becomes expendable, which would be a bonus. But the left side above looks pretty weak to me, and if Prucha gets hurt then you are screwed.

Redden would be nice but with all the suitors out there I don't think we get him without paying at least 7M. In that case I pass and would take a solid D man in Havelid.
I agree with you, I just kinda figured Dawes could snag a spot at camp but we'll have to see.

Hmm if in weak you mean size wise I agree with you but skill wise I like it with Dawes and Prucha and Hollweg is a good bodychecker as for Moore hmm I'm not sure he should be with the rangers next year any thoughts?

One thing I am certain of is that I definately want to see a third line of Hollweg, Betts and Ward

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The thing with Nylander and Straka is that they aren't really 1st line players but they are getting 1st line points for 2nd line money. You can certainly upgrade those spots but you won't get that much of an increase in production. To get technical, you will get diminishing returns on your money. I would like to see more of our prospects with maybe 1 FA forward that can upgrade the offense to bring some balance to our scoring.

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The thing with Nylander and Straka is that they aren't really 1st line players but they are getting 1st line points for 2nd line money. You can certainly upgrade those spots but you won't get that much of an increase in production. To get technical, you will get diminishing returns on your money. I would like to see more of our prospects with maybe 1 FA forward that can upgrade the offense to bring some balance to our scoring.
I agree about the 1st line points for 2nd line money, but we don't have any cap issues, so money's not a problem as long as we don't strike a 3-4 year deal. Also I think that the major major reason they even got 1st line points was due to playing with Jagr. Last year was Nylander's 1st year in his career over 70 points. How many assists did they get on his seeing-eye shots? Nylander averages 18 goals a season over his career, that's not exactly first line numbers even. I don't mean to rag on these guys, they are good solid players, but not first liners.

Samsonov was my 1 FA forward to upgrade the offense. And I think he would increase production; playing with Jagr certainly increased Nylander's and Straka's production. He's got a ton of speed which is something we could use. Sykora I would keep, and maaaaaaaybe Langenbrunner for the 3rd line. Mainly because he is a workhorse and will provide spark for the 3rd line and increase the competition for spots.

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I we let go of Straka I'd rather see

Prucha-Nylander-Jagr
Dawes-Savard/Immonen-Sykora
Hollweg-Betts-Ward
Moore-Helminen-Ortmeyer

as for defense I don't really know but a pair of Redden and a rookie (Staal), Kaspar, Tyutin and maybe Malik and Pock or maybe Baranka?

Remember that it is about rebuilding
It's not bad. Have to agree with the remark about Dawes though he might be ready for it. I don't have a big problem with either Straka or Rucinsky though and actually think that Rucinsky wouldn't be bad on the 3rd line. Sykora can be soft too. He did not finish strong. As for the bottom lines I'd put Orts with Betts and Hollweg. Helminen-Ward-Moore/Hossa. One thing about it is it's a small lineup and not very physical.

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I agree about the 1st line points for 2nd line money, but we don't have any cap issues, so money's not a problem as long as we don't strike a 3-4 year deal. Also I think that the major major reason they even got 1st line points was due to playing with Jagr. Last year was Nylander's 1st year in his career over 70 points. How many assists did they get on his seeing-eye shots? Nylander averages 18 goals a season over his career, that's not exactly first line numbers even. I don't mean to rag on these guys, they are good solid players, but not first liners.

Samsonov was my 1 FA forward to upgrade the offense. And I think he would increase production; playing with Jagr certainly increased Nylander's and Straka's production. He's got a ton of speed which is something we could use. Sykora I would keep, and maaaaaaaybe Langenbrunner for the 3rd line. Mainly because he is a workhorse and will provide spark for the 3rd line and increase the competition for spots.
Yeah, I was kind of inferring that Nyls and Straka are getting 1st line points simply because of Jagr. Basically anyone would be getting those points the way he played this year. No doubt other players will get more points than Nylander and Straka in that situation but the question is how much more and for how much more money? I think it is agruable that Samsonov will do better, but if he costs twice as much as Straka but only gets 15 more points is it worth it?

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