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06-12-2006, 04:26 PM
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Can they put Ribeiro on left wing?

Second line left winger?

Obtain a center for the second line and have them all play with Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Ryder

Ribeiro _______ Kovalev

Perrezhogin Plekanic ________

Murray Bonk Begin

Zednik and Bulis will be gone.

(Just having fun here. This has probably been beaten to death)

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06-12-2006, 04:33 PM
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whatever team picks him up after montreal do the right thing(and let him walk) can do whatever they want with him as far as im concerned. maybe have him play only wehen they need to draw penaltys or get a bad call go their way

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They tried him on LW two seasons ago, when Perreault was still our "official" second line center. Ribeiro game doesn't translate very well on the wings, specially his lack of speed and weak shot.

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Ribeiro is too soft to play on the wings and it doesnt't fit in his game imo.He is at his best at the center position where he can use his vision to create plays.Other than that , he doesn't have a lot going for him.

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They can put him whereever they want. He'll still suck and be a spineless twirp.

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Originally Posted by Brett38
Second line left winger?

Obtain a center for the second line and have them all play with Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Ryder

Ribeiro _______ Kovalev

Perrezhogin Plekanic ________

Murray Bonk Begin

Zednik and Bulis will be gone.

(Just having fun here. This has probably been beaten to death)

Conversation between new Habs 2nd line center(N2LC) and Ribero after one week and the beginning of a new game.

N2LC: Ribs....I want you positioned in a area where you can be most effective on for our line.

Ribero: Sure..Where do you want me, between the circles so you can feed me the puck for a one timer?

N2LC: No

Ribero: In front of the net to deflect the puck when you shoot?

N2LC: No

Ribero Down low for the cycle?

N2LC: No

Ribero: Umm... where do you want me then???

N2LC: The Parking Lot!

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They tried him on LW two seasons ago, when Perreault was still our "official" second line center. Ribeiro game doesn't translate very well on the wings, specially his lack of speed and weak shot.

Well, get rid of him!!! They need something more than Ribeiro!

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They can put him whereever they want. He'll still suck and be a spineless twirp.
I hope you are still referring to hockey.

I understand bashing Ribs is what all the cool kids are doing these days and I like to fit in as much as anybody but when just mentionning his name gets a slew of personnal attacks I think this is getting a bit far.

To answer the OP's question. No.

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I hope you are still referring to hockey.
I was referring to his play on the ice. Personally I'd let him walk this summer if nothing is available in the trade market.

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Second line left winger?

Obtain a center for the second line and have them all play with Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Ryder

Ribeiro _______ Kovalev

Perrezhogin Plekanic ________

Murray Bonk Begin

Zednik and Bulis will be gone.

(Just having fun here. This has probably been beaten to death)

The simple answer is 'no'. On any of the top four teams this season (ie. the ones that made the conference finals), can anybody name one forward that is as one-dimensional and ineffective as Ribeiro? Moving him to the wing eliminates his face-offs as a problem but it does nothing to solve the problem of finish and grit that this team must address in order to win. IMHO, I do not believe the Habs should waste another second trying to figure out where to put one dimensional players who will never be on a winning team, and should instead focus immediately on finding a replacement.

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The simple answer is 'no'. On any of the top four teams this season (ie. the ones that made the conference finals), can anybody name one forward that is as one-dimensional and ineffective as Ribeiro? Moving him to the wing eliminates his face-offs as a problem but it does nothing to solve the problem of finish and grit that this team must address in order to win. IMHO, I do not believe the Habs should waste another second trying to figure out where to put one dimensional players who will never be on a winning team, and should instead focus immediately on finding a replacement.
Murray is just as one-dimensional. So is Komisarek.

As for one-dimensional offense, or "Ribeiro"-type players, Ray Whitney and Sergei Samsonov come to mind. One of them will win the Cup this year.

It's a lame argument anyway. There's no blueprint for winning. You can't say a team will never win because a certain guy is on it. Be more creative. Stephan Lebeau, Denis Savard, Gilbert Dionne and Gary frickin' Leeman were on the team last time they won a Cup. You need different guys who do different things. The offensive PP guy is just as important (if not moreso) than the grinder-Begin guy.

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Ribeiro is a center. He doesn't mesh well with the wings on the Habs but maybe he can be more successful on another team. He has his skills, but hockey is a fast, hard-hitting game, not a skills competition. Otherwise, Corey Locke might be playing here as well as Ribeiro.

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He's just not good along the boards and doesn't have the transition game down pat to play wing.

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He will be gone next year. I never liked the guy but I wish him the best with his new team ( I hope a west conference team cuz i know the guy can score big goal against us ).

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06-12-2006, 09:18 PM
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Ribeiro will help this team most by playing for someone else.

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A big fat No

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Murray is just as one-dimensional. So is Komisarek.

As for one-dimensional offense, or "Ribeiro"-type players, Ray Whitney and Sergei Samsonov come to mind. One of them will win the Cup this year.

It's a lame argument anyway. There's no blueprint for winning. You can't say a team will never win because a certain guy is on it. Be more creative. Stephan Lebeau, Denis Savard, Gilbert Dionne and Gary frickin' Leeman were on the team last time they won a Cup. You need different guys who do different things. The offensive PP guy is just as important (if not moreso) than the grinder-Begin guy.

You missed two thirds of my quote. I said "FORWARD that is one dimensional and INEFFECTIVE"...

-Komisarek is not a forward.
-Samsonov is a very effective player.
-Murray is a gritty, defensive-forward (already combined 3 elements there and I would take him over Ribeiro).
-Whitney is a two-way forward who had 55 pts in 63 games this year with an even +/- rating. He is also a proven 15 year veteran who has leadership qualities and adds experience. That's hardly 1-dimensional.
1993:
-Lebeau was effective.
-Savard was effective.
-Dionne was very effective.
-Leeman was effecive.

I don't think it's fair to say my argument is poor, certainly not based on what was presented back there, anyway. There is not 'A' blueprint for winning. Nowhere did I suggest a singular. But there are certain things you need to win and certain things you can't win if you have. You need effective players, consistent players who are gritty and talented. You also need great goaltending. You cannot have one-dimensional, small, ineffective floating forwards like Ribeiro. I am not implying that ther are not other related issues or that he is the only one, but he will never play on a cup winning team...write it down. Neither will Mark Streit.


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Originally Posted by Brett38
Second line left winger?

Obtain a center for the second line and have them all play with Kovalev

Higgins Koivu Ryder

Ribeiro _______ Kovalev

Perrezhogin Plekanic ________

Murray Bonk Begin

Zednik and Bulis will be gone.

(Just having fun here. This has probably been beaten to death)
Ribiero can be a power play specialist. Thats about it.

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You missed two thirds of my quote. I said "FORWARD that is one dimensional and INEFFECTIVE"...

-Komisarek is not a forward.
-Samsonov is a very effective player.
-Murray is a gritty, defensive-forward (already combined 3 elements there and I would take him over Ribeiro).
-Whitney is a two-way forward who had 55 pts in 63 games this year with an even +/- rating. He is also a proven 15 year veteran who has leadership qualities and adds experience. That's hardly 1-dimensional.
1993:
-Lebeau was effective.
-Savard was effective.
-Dionne was very effective.
-Leeman was effecive.

I don't think it's fair to say my argument is poor, certainly not based on what was presented back there, anyway. There is not 'A' blueprint for winning. Nowhere did I suggest a singular. But there are certain things you need to win and certain things you can't win if you have. You need effective players, consistent players who are gritty and talented. You also need great goaltending. You cannot have one-dimensional, small, ineffective floating forwards like Ribeiro. I am not implying that ther are not other related issues or that he is the only one, but he will never play on a cup winning team...write it down. Neither will Mark Streit.
Savard was bagged. Lebeau was a bum. Agreed all could skate except lebeau. Ribiero is a Lebeau clone.

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Can they put Ribeiro on left wing?
Instead, can't they put him on waivers and be done with it ??
If we can't trade him by the draft, I say don't even qualify him. IF Bob can get a 4th round pick for him, great ! if not, just dump him off and move on !

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No, Ribeiro must go he;s not the type of player we need at this time.

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Savard was bagged. Lebeau was a bum. Agreed all could skate except lebeau. Ribiero is a Lebeau clone.
Lebeau had alot more grit than Ribs.....until Mikey scores 30 goals and 80 pts. in a season and shows you his ring, your flattering little mike.

No he can not play the wing, watch him in the corner or on the wall he's like a little girl at a Stephen King movie.

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Savard was bagged. Lebeau was a bum. Agreed all could skate except lebeau. Ribiero is a Lebeau clone.
Any way you cut it, Lebeau was an effective hockey player. He could put the puck in the net in big games (1993: ie. vs Islanders in 2OT, Game 5 against LA to make it 3-1). Riberio is not effective. He has rarely shown up for a big game in his life - never been the game-breaker - he showed up for two playoff games in his life, one against Boston in 2004 and one game against Carolina this year. That's not a big-game player. I think it's pretty forceful that many posters and commentators even forcasted his disappearing act this year, and we were 100% correct.

He is very talented but he just doesn't get the job done. Bad in the defensive end, not effective offensively, poor along the boards and horrible in the face-off circle. Yes he's got great hands, but there's more to hockey than that.


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Any way you cut it, Lebeau was an effective hockey player. He could put the puck in the net in big games (1993: ie. vs Islanders in 2OT, Game 5 against LA to make it 3-1). Riberio is not effective. He has rarely shown up for a big game in his life - never been the game-breaker - he showed up for two playoff games in his life, one against Boston in 2004 and one game against Carolina this year. That's not a big-game player. I think it's pretty forceful that many posters and commentators even forcasted his disappearing act this year, and we were 100% correct.

He is very talented but he just doesn't get the job done. Bad in the defensive end, not effective offensively, poor along the boards and horrible in the face-off circle. Yes he's got great hands, but there's more to hockey than that.

He is as good as gone. I hope I don't eat crow!

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Savard was bagged. Lebeau was a bum. Agreed all could skate except lebeau. Ribiero is a Lebeau clone.
Lebeau was one of the fastest guys on those early 90s teams. Only guy i can remember faster was Russ Courtnall. Saying Lebeau couldn't skate is not correct.

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