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06-19-2006, 04:58 PM
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Cap goes up (44M)

http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/206705.html

there was alot of rumor and talk about it. Now its official : cap at 44 M (+5M from last year) and floor goes up to 28 (+7M).

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So, how much will the Habs spend...I am thinking 37-40M and this will leave the so-called wiggle room at the deadline...What do you guys think???

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Now I see why they refused the initial 45M$ dollar cap.

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So, how much will the Habs spend...I am thinking 37-40M and this will leave the so-called wiggle room at the deadline...What do you guys think???
Gainey will try hard to get a star defenceman or foward with that extra money. With our young players in place, we have room to add another big salary player.

But it might not be an easy thing to do so if he can't sign any big name, that range seems to be logical...

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06-19-2006, 05:02 PM
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Goodenow did not do such a bad job after all

now that the cap is 44 millions,I hope the owners realize they did the lockout for nothing and made other useless compromises (mainly UFA status at a much earlier age) and now are left with not much in return

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06-19-2006, 05:09 PM
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now that the cap is 44 millions,I hope the owners realize they did the lockout for nothing and made other useless compromises (mainly UFA status at a much earlier age) and now are left with not much in return
It was the NHLPA who refused the 45M$ , not the owners. The owners didn't do the lockout for nothing they did it to have a cap at around 44-45M$ wich they suceeded as we speak.
Bettman did what he said he would and Goodenow resigned, guess who got the better end of the deal?

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06-19-2006, 05:11 PM
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now that the cap is 44 millions,I hope the owners realize they did the lockout for nothing and made other useless compromises (mainly UFA status at a much earlier age) and now are left with not much in return
The whole point of the strike for the owners was to get a cap tied to revenues...and that is what they got. I don't see why you say they did the lockout for nothing.

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06-19-2006, 05:15 PM
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I'm still waiting to see if "our" cap will now raise to 44M. We're still the most taxed team in the league. I believe it was Boivin during the lockout who said "our" cap figure was at around 40M.

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FWIW, Bill Daly himself said several weeks ago that the cap would be $43-44M. This is no more official than that. Same numbers. Still not official. Clearly teams have known for a very long time what number they could work towards, however. As Munchausen said, the real key for us is what our team's internal budget is going to be.

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06-19-2006, 05:23 PM
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I'm still waiting to see if "our" cap will now raise to 44M. We're still the most taxed team in the league. I believe it was Boivin during the lockout who said "our" cap figure was at around 40M.
Back in those days the dollar was very weak so we needed ~$65m CAN to maintain a $40m US cap. Now we need about ~$45m CAN for the same cap. That is a $20 millions CAN economy right there but the habs don't seem to mention it too often. Don't be surprised that we are still going to be below 40 millions next year as Gillett is trying hard to get the tax lowered. Maxing the $44 millions cap would mean he has a lot of money thus not neededing the tax cup.

Beside, the Bell Center is full every night so why bother ? I just hope he can prove me wrong.

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I'm still waiting to see if "our" cap will now raise to 44M. We're still the most taxed team in the league. I believe it was Boivin during the lockout who said "our" cap figure was at around 40M.
40M$ is good enough especially if no one can spend more than 45M$ you can be right up there. If you think your time has come you can go all in and go for 44M$ otherwise I'm happy with 40M$.

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I'd be content with a $40-42M payroll. That gives us $3-5M to play with above our current default payroll of $37M, and it leaves us with good overhead in case there are some big name guys who we want to add before the deadline, depending on who is dumping guys and how teams are poised for playoff runs.

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So, with all the RFA / UFA remains unsigned, our actual payroll is $25,096,000.00$ That means we are about 1,904M under the minimum and 18,904,000$ under the Cap. Let say Huet sign for 3M (he will probably sign for a bit less but let say 3), Bouillon 1.7M (same thing as Huet), Komisarek 1.2M, Ryder 1.75M and Higgins 1.1M we come to 10,254 IF we assume that Ribeiro, Bulis and Aebischer are gone and dont resign. Zednik is probably gone also so that add us an extra 1.9M of free cap space (12,154M).

So we have money for SURE to sign at least 1 or 2 players.

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So, with all the RFA / UFA remains unsigned, our actual payroll is $25,096,000.00$ That means we are about 1,904M under the minimum and 18,904,000$ under the Cap. Let say Huet sign for 3M (he will probably sign for a bit less but let say 3), Bouillon 1.7M (same thing as Huet), Komisarek 1.2M, Ryder 1.75M and Higgins 1.1M we come to 10,254 IF we assume that Ribeiro, Bulis and Aebischer are gone and dont resign. Zednik is probably gone also so that add us an extra 1.9M of free cap space (12,154M).

So we have money for SURE to sign at least 1 or 2 players.
I don't think we can assume that all those players will be gone. Bulis is gone and he will probably be the only one when all is said and done. Ribs might not be a favourite but he is not expensive at all and, whether people like it or not, he remains a talented player.

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Good news if used wisely

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now that the cap is 44 millions,I hope the owners realize they did the lockout for nothing and made other useless compromises (mainly UFA status at a much earlier age) and now are left with not much in return
You're quite confused. The owners got the players association to agree to a link between revenues and salaries. That's what they won.

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It was the NHLPA who refused the 45M$ , not the owners. The owners didn't do the lockout for nothing they did it to have a cap at around 44-45M$ wich they suceeded as we speak.
Bettman did what he said he would and Goodenow resigned, guess who got the better end of the deal?
That's telling it as it is. The next question is, who will spend up to the new cap?

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06-20-2006, 09:31 AM
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That's telling it as it is. The next question is, who will spend up to the new cap?
You need to ask? It will be TO, NYR, Det, Dal, Col etc. All the old culprits will be up to no good once again except this time they will be restrained due to the new CBA.

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Gainey will try hard to get a star defenceman or foward with that extra money. With our young players in place, we have room to add another big salary player.

But it might not be an easy thing to do so if he can't sign any big name, that range seems to be logical...

Yeah but every team has that extra money. I have a feeling that every UFA will be way overpaid...

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So, how much will the Habs spend...I am thinking 37-40M and this will leave the so-called wiggle room at the deadline...What do you guys think???
For another Todd Simpson?

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So, with all the RFA / UFA remains unsigned, our actual payroll is $25,096,000.00$ That means we are about 1,904M under the minimum and 18,904,000$ under the Cap. Let say Huet sign for 3M (he will probably sign for a bit less but let say 3), Bouillon 1.7M (same thing as Huet), Komisarek 1.2M, Ryder 1.75M and Higgins 1.1M we come to 10,254 IF we assume that Ribeiro, Bulis and Aebischer are gone and dont resign. Zednik is probably gone also so that add us an extra 1.9M of free cap space (12,154M).

So we have money for SURE to sign at least 1 or 2 players.
Bouillon should get no more than 1 million. There is no way that a 6th defenceman of his calibre should be getting near 1.7 million.

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So, how much will the Habs spend...I am thinking 37-40M and this will leave the so-called wiggle room at the deadline...What do you guys think???
That means giving up prospects. Buy free agents and keep developing youth

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