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06-21-2006, 10:50 PM
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Rangers 2006 Draft Preview

HF has posted the 2006 Rangers' Draft Preview. I am sure that there will be some disagreements, both as to the draft needs, as well as player I picked at 21 (Michael Grabner). The whole HF mock draft will be posted shortly, so you will be able to see whom I had to choose from, but frankly, I think if the Rangers can get Grabner at 21, its a steal. Feedback and disagreement are appreciated, as always.

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I could live with Grabner at #21.

Though, as a pick, RW is not the best area to improve when we have Prucha, Dawes, Cliche, Jessiman in our system already.


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Actually, Leslie, you pretty much hit the nail on the head, in regards to the assessment. The need for a #1 center has long been obvious, along with additional added skill up front.

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I could live with Grabner at #21.

Though, as a pick, RW is not the best area to improve when we have Prucha, Dawes, Cliche, Jessiman in our system already.

I dont want Grabner. We got alot of smaller players. We need a few big guys who can play.

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Get me Fiala/Forney/Popov/Kulemin or Mitera and I'll be one happy camper.

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take the best player available, if that's grabner then so be it.

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I dont want Grabner. We got alot of smaller players. We need a few big guys who can play.
dawes, prucha....i cant recall another.

IMO, size dosnt matter anymore. Its all speed when considering scoring forwards. If this guy can put the puck in the net, then ill take him

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out of curiousity, can someone tell me the differance between grabner and a marc-andre cliche?

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dawes, prucha....i cant recall another.

IMO, size dosnt matter anymore. Its all speed when considering scoring forwards. If this guy can put the puck in the net, then ill take him
the canes have no defensemen under 6'0 and he is also their lightest at 190, they have only 5 fowards under 6'0 but only 3 players under 190, i tend to believe size and weight still matter, especially in the playoffs where physical play becomes very important in a series and wearing down the other team

i dont want us to just draft players with size, but its clear we need some size on our roster and i think it would be smart if we stayed away from smaller players, just my opinion

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dawes, prucha....i cant recall another.

IMO, size dosnt matter anymore. Its all speed when considering scoring forwards. If this guy can put the puck in the net, then ill take him

and that is until some 6'3 dman knocks him down and gets hurt. We cant have too many small players. We got size but they dont play big, Poti is one, im glad he is gone. I just named 6 Dawes, Prucha, Helminen, D.Moore, Hollweg, Straka. Hollweg is our smallest forward and biggest hitter. How strange is that.

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I could live with Grabner at #21.

Though, as a pick, RW is not the best area to improve when we have Prucha, Dawes, Cliche, Jessiman in our system already.
Don't think it really hurts.

Prucha I think will play the left side, same with Dawes, Jessiman is far from a sure thing and Cliche is at least a year away.

BPA.

Do you go with a guy who you feel might turn into a 25-30 goal NHL'er but who plays a position you aren't dieing to fill or do you go with a guy who isn't as good who plays a position you do need to fill?

Think it all comes down to getting assets.

Even if they don't play for you, they'd have value when trying to get the right mix.

If it take a team full of wingers to get the depth to make trades, so be it. So long as it gets that depth.

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out of curiousity, can someone tell me the differance between grabner and a marc-andre cliche?
Cliche is more of an all-around offensive forward IMO.

Grabner is a sniper. I expect his strength to be in scoring goals, not in making plays.

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and that is until some 6'3 dman knocks him down and gets hurt. We cant have too many small players. We got size but they dont play big, Poti is one, im glad he is gone. I just named 6 Dawes, Prucha, Helminen, D.Moore, Hollweg, Straka. Hollweg is our smallest forward and biggest hitter. How strange is that.
what does this have to do with who we draft? whoever we get at 21 isn't gonna sniff the garden for 3 years, doesn't solve the current line up's size problem.

i don't like drafting for need, chances are that needs will change by the time those draft picks hit the big time.

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Cliche is more of an all-around offensive forward IMO.

Grabner is a sniper. I expect his strength to be in scoring goals, not in making plays.
thanks edge.

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dawes, prucha....i cant recall another.

IMO, size dosnt matter anymore. Its all speed when considering scoring forwards. If this guy can put the puck in the net, then ill take him
You still need a few big guys, and i think Rangers is in need of a big power forward. We also need to choose a north American player. To many euros isnít good, especially in the postseason.

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Hollweg is our smallest forward and biggest hitter. How strange is that.
this is the second time (that I've seen) you've said that, and no it's not strange at all. Hollweg is just a good hitter. he's better than a lot of the guys in the league that are bigger than him

if a big talented forward who skates real well is available when the rangers pick, then sure I'd take him. if not, then I don't think the rangers should reach for some guy just because he's big. If grabner is the most talented guy available at #21, then you take him.

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You still need a few big guys, and i think Rangers is in need of a big power forward. We also need to choose a north American player. To many euros isnít good, especially in the postseason.
chris stewart baby! I swear, if he's still available at 21 and we don't take him, im throwing my tv out the window.

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chris stewart baby! I swear, if he's still available at 21 and we don't take him, im throwing my tv out the window.
No way he makes it to #21, we'd have to trade up.

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You still need a few big guys, and i think Rangers is in need of a big power forward. We also need to choose a north American player. To many euros isnít good, especially in the postseason.

we need some euros that can hit, Kasper is one and Nieminen was one but lets hope we get Kubina. We need physical players, I dont care where they come from Europe, North America or wherever as long as they are physical and can play.

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Improbable as it is, I'd like to see the Rangers trade up and select Peter Mueller.

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Don't think it really hurts.

Prucha I think will play the left side, same with Dawes, Jessiman is far from a sure thing and Cliche is at least a year away.

BPA.

Do you go with a guy who you feel might turn into a 25-30 goal NHL'er but who plays a position you aren't dieing to fill or do you go with a guy who isn't as good who plays a position you do need to fill?

Think it all comes down to getting assets.

Even if they don't play for you, they'd have value when trying to get the right mix.

If it take a team full of wingers to get the depth to make trades, so be it. So long as it gets that depth.
I agree. It's irrelevant what kind of roster we have now. By the time this prospect makes the NHL our roster will be much different. His success could initiate a trade on the NHL roster that will fill a weakness elsewhere. Take the BPA. I like Grabner but believe he will be picked before we pick.

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Improbable as it is, I'd like to see the Rangers trade up and select Peter Mueller.
I knew there was something I liked about you ...

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chris stewart baby! I swear, if he's still available at 21 and we don't take him, im throwing my tv out the window.
what kind of T.V.? and what is your address again?

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Improbable as it is, I'd like to see the Rangers trade up and select Peter Mueller.
I don't think this is improbable if he gets past the first 8 teams.

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Improbable as it is, I'd like to see the Rangers trade up and select Peter Mueller.
As the draft gets closer it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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