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Hab picks with Central Scouting Bureau analysis

i don't know if it's ok to copy-paste from another message board but i found it great analysis for our draft picks....

if it's not ok..please mods delete my thread...

thank to "stoka" for posting it on habfans.com:

DAVID FISCHER
Apple Valley • High-MN
6’ 3”, 185 lbs. Defense, shoots right
Born: February 19, 1988 in Minneapolis, Minnesota
Final Ranking: 29 • Mid-Term Ranking: 25 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: Is a strong skater with a wide base, quick
first two steps and his pivots and turns are sharp allowing him to gain
time and space ... has excellent balance, mobility and agility and can
and does skate the puck out of trouble ...has soft hands and a lot of
confidence in his skill when rushing the puck and is a very good passer
and playmaker with the ability to make a variety of passes effectively
... reads and reacts very well to the play at hand ... blocks shots
and plays in all game situations ... makes very good use of his body
when protecting the puck ... finishes his checks, steps up in the
offensive zone and at his own blue line eliminating his opponents ...
has an abrasive edge to his game, is very tenacious in the one-on-one
battles for loose pucks and has been double shifted often and has
paced himself wisely while conserving his strength and stamina ...
comes to play and is the team captain ... was the recipient of the Mr.
Hockey award given annually to a Minnesota high school hockey
player ... will attend the University of Minnesota in the fall of 2006.

Personal Profile: Nicknames include Fosho, Fishdaddy and Fish
...hometown is Apple Valley, Minnesota ... favorite NHL team is the
Minnesota Wild ... favorite player is Ottawa’s Daniel Alfredsson ...
wears jersey #9 because “it’s a good number” ... says that his father
has been very supportive and had the most influence on his career –
“We knew I could be a strong player and he gave me plenty of
encouragement but never pushed me too far” ... has developed his
own style of play ... outside of sports, Fischer most admires his father
for taking care of their family and having a great attitude ... most
memorable hockey game played was Holy Angels, Section Semis in
2006 because “we won!” ... most memorable hockey game watched
was the overtime National Championship game at the Xcel Energy
Center between U. of Minnesota and Maine ... favorites include:
Family Guy, Seinfeld (TV shows), Ocean’s Eleven (movie), Kevin Spacey
(actor) and O.A.R., Jurassic 5 or Steely Dan (musicians) ... if he could
have dinner with any three people would invite Bill Gates, Jessica
Simpson and Yogi Berra.

BEN MAXWELL
Kootenay • WHL
6’ 0”, 177 lbs. Center, shoots left
Born: March 30, 1988 in North Vancouver, British Columbia
Final Ranking: 44 • Mid-Term Ranking: 42 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: Has quick acceleration with a strong stride
and good overall speed ... uses quick bursts to hit holes and break
free of traffic ... skates well backwards and plays the point on the
power-play where he picked up a lot of points ... a deft puckhandler
who passes the puck very well through congested areas – makes
good decisions with the puck and moves it quickly and smart ... has
sharp hockey sense and good vision on the ice ... Kootenay’s 1st pick,
2nd overall in the 2003 WHL Bantam Draft ... was a member of Team
Pacific for the 2005 Under-17 World Hockey Challenge and a member
of Team Canada for the 2005 Under-18 Junior World Cup ...
selected to the 2006 Top Prospects Game in Ottawa where he won
the 60’ and 150’ dash in the skills competition.

Personal Profile: Nickname is Maxy ... favorite team is the Vancouver
Canucks ...favorite player is Calgary’s Jarome Iginla ... wears jersey
number 16 because “good players wear it (Linden, LaFontaine)” ...
says that the support and confidence of his parents throughout his
minor hockey days has been the greatest influence on his career ...
patterns his game after Iginla because he is a well-rounded player ...
outside of sports he most admires his father because he has “great
people skills socially and in business” ... most memorable hockey
game played was winning the gold medal game in the Under-18
tournament in the Czech Republic against the hometown Czechs ...
most memorable hockey game watched was Game 6 of the 1994
Stanley Cup Finals when the Canucks beat the Rangers 4-1 ...
favorites include: Family Guy (TV show), Top Gun (movie), Jim Carrey
& Jessica Alba (actors) and Nickelback (band) ... if he could have dinner
with any three people, they would be: Wayne Gretzky – “best
hockey player,” Jessica Alba – “great style,” and Ronaldinho – “a soccer
player from Brazil who I like.”

MATHIEU CARLE
Acadie-Bathurst • QMJHL
6’ 0”, 206 lbs. Defense, shoots right
Born: September 30, 1987 in Gatineau, Quebec
Final Ranking: 52 • Mid-Term Ranking: 51 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: Is a good skater with good lateral movement
and leg strength, who has good on-ice vision allowing him to
move puck quickly to the open man ... carries the puck with confidence
and will support the attack ... his puck skills and hockey sense
are good ... possesses a good, accurate slap shot from the point and
makes good use of it by getting the puck through to the net on the
power-play ... while not a punishing hitter, he finishes his checks ...
logs a lot of ice time and is used in all game situations ... an honest
competitor who is not flashy but very steady ... has good anticipation
... Acadie-Bathurst’s first selection in the 2004 QMJHL draft, 14th
overall ... was selected to play in the 2006 Top Prospects Game in
Ottawa ... also selected to play for the 2005 QMJHL All-Star Team for
the Canada-Russia Hockey Challenge ... was a member of Team
Quebec for the 2004 Under-17 World Hockey Challenge.

Personal Profile: Nickname is Mate... favorite team is the Montreal
Canadiens and favorite player is Canadiens’ defenseman Andrei
Markov ... wears jersey #77 because his junior team gave it to him...
says that his parents, especially his father, have had the most influence
on his career so far because “in hard times he is always there to
cheer me up” ... patterns his game after Andrei Markov for his good
vision and good shot ... outside of sports he most admires his father
for “working so hard for my family” ... most memorable hockey
game played was the Canada vs. Russia game ... most memorable
hockey game watched was the 1980 Miracle on ice because of the
American team, “the way they played was just incredible” ... favorite
movie is Remember the Titans ... if he could invite any three people
to dinner they would be Raymond Bourque, Bobby Orr and Paul
Coffey because “they are all-star defensemen and all members of the
Hall of Fame.”

RYAN WHITE
Calgary • WHL
5’11”, 200 lbs. Center, shoots right
Born: March 17, 1988 in Brandon, Manitoba
Final Ranking: 27 • Mid-Term Ranking: 22 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: Is a very solid skater with tremendous balance
who is hard to knock off the puck ... strength on his skates
enables him to win most battles for possession in all areas of the ice
and he displays good agility in tight quarters ... possesses a heavy
wrist shot which he gets off quickly and has a good feel for the game
moving the puck well with his linemates for give and go plays ... sees
the ice well and is strong on face-offs ... a competitive player who
likes to be out there when the game is on the line – he pays the price
to score a goal and will sacrifice his body to block shots ... plays a
physical game – finishes his checks with authority in all areas of the
ice and sticks up for teammates when need be ... plays every game
with grit ... Calgary’s 4th round pick, 69th overall in the WHL Bantam
Draft ... was a member of Team West for the 2005 Under-17 World
Hockey Challenge ... played in the 2006 CHL Top Prospects Game in
Ottawa.

Personal Profile: Nickname is Whitey ... favorite team is the Detroit
Red Wings ... favorite player is Red Wings’ Steve Yzerman ... wears
number 25 because it was given to him ... says his parents have had
the most influence on his career because they “always supported me,
drove me to the rink, and were always there for me” ... patterns
aspects of his game after Steve Yzerman, but says “I am my own
player” ... outside of sports, most admires his father because he
“worked hard so he could watch me as much as possible” ... most
memorable hockey game played was the Air Canada Cup final when
his team won 2-1 in OT ... most memorable hockey game watched
was the only NHL game he has ever been to – in Winnipeg when the
Red Wings beat the Jets 7-1 ... favorites are: Two and a Half Men (TV
show), Walk the Line (movie), Reese Witherspoon (actress) and
George Strait (musician) ... if he could have dinner with any three
people, they would be Steve Yzerman, Don Cherry and Wayne
Gretzky because they are “all great hockey minds.”

CAMERON CEPAK
Portland • WHL
6’ 1”, 170 lbs. Defense, shoots right
Born: January 12, 1988 in Huntington Beach, California
Final Ranking: 83 • Mid-Term Ranking: 73 • North American Skater

Central Scouting Report: Has good mobility and has a quick step-up
to get out of traffic ... pivots well to both sides ... has good foot
speed on his stops and starts ... angles forwards steadily to the outside
... one-on-one skills are solid though sometimes relies on his stick
for too much leverage ... handles the puck well and moves it quickly
... makes good decisions and more often than not makes the smart
play ... has good skills ... competes every night – plays with an edge
and is feisty ... has a good game attitude ... works the corners and
pins and contains players ... bangs in the corners even though at a
weight disadvantage ... keeps forwards guessing a little with his edginess
... surprises opposition with toughness ... could play agitator role
... at this point, lacks upper body strength to handle bigger forwards
in front of own goal ... missed time this season because of broken
wrist ... was Portland’s 7th pick, 123rd overall, in the 2003 WHL
Bantam draft.

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how could we got White !? damn ! he is ranked 22th NA , he is ranked higher than Fischer and went in 3rd round

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how could we got White !? damn ! he is ranked 22th NA , he is ranked higher than Fischer and went in 3rd round
I was asking myself the same question..

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how could we got White !? damn ! he is ranked 22th NA , he is ranked higher than Fischer and went in 3rd round
From an article on RDS, directly from Timmins mouth:

"Si on a pu le réclamer si tard, c'est qu'il ne s'est pas présenté en forme au camp de sélection des moins de 18 ans. Depuis, il a perdu 15 livres. Mais il possède un coeur de lion. Il ne craint pas non plus de laisser tomber les gants. C'est un joueur de la vieille école. Il pourrait être notre vol de ce repêchage."

"If we could draft him so late, it's because he wasn't in shape at the U18 selection camp. Since then, he lost 15 pounds. He still has a lion's heart. He doesn't fear dropping the gloves. He's an old-school player. He could be our steal of the draft."

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This is all from a ranking/scouting report posted by Max Giese on the prospects board a while ago. It was like his top 60 prospects or something like that, the number next to the name is how he ranked the player (overall) :

20. F Ryan White 6-0 200 WHL Calgary 72-20-33-53

Scouts Take: " His offensive production was modest this season, but if you look closer Ryan White actually lead the Calgary Hitmen in scoring this year. White is a meat and potato's player, he does all the little things right but he lacks the fancy hands to be a go to offensive player. Plays a buzz saw game, finishes every check he can and puts some oomph into his hits. Seems to be the first player in on the forecheck at all times. Excels on the cycle and is strong down low. Stable base with remarkable balance, very stocky player who makes up for his lack of height with a thick frame. Protects the puck well and is strong along the boards and in front of the oppositions net. Has a non stop motor and works hard consistently shift after shift, competes hard in traffic. Works diligently defensively and back checked hard in every game of I saw, could be an asset to the penalty kill. His best offensive asset is his shot. Has a snipers release that he can get off his stick immediately. Catches goaltenders off guard with taking little time to unload a heavy shot. Can pick up a rebound and have it to the net in a hurry. Even on his one timers his shot is always hard and he has good accuracy. Is smart about getting to open ice to let go a shot. Has a soft touch with quick hands in front and will score a lot of goals off of secondary chances. Can pick a corner in tight. Adequate play maker, is patient with the puck and doesn't mind protecting the puck while waiting for a line mate to get open. Makes quick decisions with the puck and moves it maturely. Not the biggest, nor fastest, nor the most skilled Ryan uses determination and hockey sense to be a very effective player. He scores goals that are goals at any level and that trait will translate well to the NHL. His ability to take a loose puck and get it to the net so quickly and accurately reminds me a tad of Jonathan Cheechoo. Not saying he's the next Cheech, but I like his game and he will just be a very usefull player on any line. Reminds me a little bit of March Recchi."


21. F Ben Maxwell 6-1 180 WHL Kootenay 69-28-32-60
Scouts Take: “ Ben Maxwell was seen as a potential top 10 pick before the season started as he was very impressive as a 16 year old in the Dub and at the last years U-17. Maxwell had a slow start to the season but saved the best for last with a spirited and productive stretch during the playoffs and was Canada’s best forward at the U-18's in April. Maxwell has that natural feel for the game that many of the great players today possess. Has an almost methodical approach to the game and seems to be one step ahead of the competition with his mental game. Always in the right position, the puck just seems to find him as do scoring chances. Uses that hockey sense to emerge as a gifted play making center. Has superb vision, can slow the game down at times and waits for an open man to appear. Is creative with the puck and is willing to try hard plays, but is mature enough to settle the play down at times. Very poised with the puck and looks almost lazy with the puck, but he handles it effortlessly and he can be elusive to get it from, because as soon as the defenseman decides to close in on him he seems to pass it at the last second. Has such good hands that he’ll over handle it at times looking for the perfect shot, has smooth moves with the puck. Because of his poise with the puck, hockey sense, soft hands, and exceptional play making he will be a natural fit on the power play some day. Skating is a bit hit and miss, for someone his size he shouldn’t have an issue with his foot speed and first few steps, however he does. Likely that’s because he’s so lanky and needs to bulk up, that would make him more explosive, his stride is fine and his a smooth with a solid top end, average at getting to the outside. Has a great release on his shot, really snaps it off his stick, his shot is also fairly accurate, it’s more of a quick than powerful shot, and he’s still more of a play maker than scorer. Shows good two way upside, was strong defensively in the games that I’ve seen, he came down low to help the defenseman, used his poise with the puck to make the first pass to aide the breakout, and provides a nice outlet for his teammates to pass to. Maxwell has been knocked for his lackadaisical play, and has been called out for his perimeter game, not really a fan of traffic. He is effective enough though, and with some added strength maybe he would show more willingness to get his nose dirty. I like him enough as he is though to take him in the first round. He really saved his stock in my opinion with a gutsy playoff performance for the Kootenay Ice than a strong U-18's”

From that description, Maxwell really reminds me of Ribeiro. (which is a good thing in some ways and a bad in some other ways)



28. D David Fischer 6-3 185 USHS Apple Valley 25-8-30-38

Scouts Take: "The best Minnesota High School defenseman available in the draft and was named the states Mr. Hockey, the same award that Brian Lee (9th overall in 2005) won. I saw him play a few times for Apple Valley High School in Minnesota and I saw him up close at a Mid-Western evaluation camp at the Shattuck Prep School campus. His poise with the puck is amazing and you simply cannot coach that. He never panics in the face of pressure and can by himself time with his long reach and soft touch before finding an open player to make the pass to. Keeps his head up, digests the play while seeing the ice easily and distributes the puck exceptionally well. Seems to be elusive with the puck as no one could catch him and no one could stop him from making a pass. Not a flashy skater with great speed, but he's quick enough and he's agile in close so he never appears sluggish and I never saw him struggle wi th speed off the rush while playing defensively. He is smart positionally and handles most situations well. Uses his long reach mostly but he shows mean streak and can get down right nasty, some times taking uncharacteristically bad penalties or loosing position looking for the big hit. Is active in front of his own net and plays with an edge in front his crease. Could add bulk as he struggles to move bigger opponets from the front of the net and he will need to be stronger at the next level. I would like him to be more assertive offensively has he has immense offensive gifts but seems more contempt to just distribute to the puck to his line mates and allow them to make the play. However, showed he can take his game to another level by really coming hard late in the game trying to make a difference. Great vision of the ice and moves the puck very well and has a mean streak, along with his frame make him a sought after prospect in this draft and should go in the bottom half of the first round but could rise because of his upside."


From the description : Looks like a more offensive version of Sheldon Souray

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Wow, didn't even noticed Carle was in his top 60 :

52. D Mathieu Carle 6-0 210 QMJHL Titan 67-18-51-69
Scouts Take: “ Carle was highly regarded early in the season, then seemingly fell of the face of the earth, but from my viewing’s it wasn’t because he was playing any worse as the year progressed. Mathieu is a great puck moving defenseman who passes the puck crisply as anyone. Carle has been knocked for his conditioning and some say he’s got some flab under the hood. Still he has that natural strength and plays like a rock. I don’t see that as a concern at all. Carle is physical in his own end and is good at separating his man from the puck. Has the ability to find a man with his head down coming through the neutral zone, and he loves to step up on his man, than lays him out hard. Solid positionally in his own end, but he does struggle with speed off the rush. Needs to improve his acceleration and top end speed, not a slow skater but appears sluggish and lacks quickness in all directions. Superb vision and passing skills, passes the puck crisply tape to tape, especially impressive making the first pass out of the zone, moves it with poise and is very accurate. Patient and careful about jumping into the play but is effective. Has a solid shot from the point, not great but fine. I like him more than the fellow Q defenseman Joe Ryan. He needs to improve his skating and conditioning but he has high hockey IQ and impressive natural ability.

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I cant wait to see how those picks turn out. I'm really optimistic.

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White was the guy I was hoping would still be around when our 2nd round pick would come up. He seems like a heart & soul energy line guy in the Begin and Lapierre mould.

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White was the guy I was hoping would still be around when our 2nd round pick would come up. He seems like a heart & soul energy line guy in the Begin and Lapierre mould.

Same.. when I got back from work and I saw his name, I was jumping (in my head) of glee.

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Fisher seems to have it all. Maxwell has speed and finesse, white grit and shot, cepak another chelios under the radar Californian and Val a sleeper.


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White was the guy I was hoping would still be around when our 2nd round pick would come up. He seems like a heart & soul energy line guy in the Begin and Lapierre mould.
My cousin in cowtown claims that he has a good quick shot and skates better than advertised.

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how could we got White !? damn ! he is ranked 22th NA , he is ranked higher than Fischer and went in 3rd round
Hope he turns out better than Duncan Milroy.

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Hope he turns out better than Duncan Milroy.
Well Milroy was and is a perimeter player, White doesn't know what perimeter means....He will turn out better....

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Wow .. its look like a very good draft ..

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Wow .. its look like a very good draft ..
You could read the CSB blurbs about any player and decide it was a pretty good draft, of course. They definitely oversell the public opinions. And because there was such a lack of consensus between picks 15-100 this year, you'll also find quite a few teams who picked guys in the 2nd or 3rd rounds who were rated as potential 1st rounders elsewhere. So we're far from being in a unique position.

That said, I do agree that it was a good draft, because we addressed the problem with organisational depth at D, and because we picked a couple of forwards who were good value where they were taken.

Even if Maxwell turns out to be another Milroy and White another Ferland, I don't think it will ever be possible to argue very much against taking them with those picks.

Maxwell went about where I thought he'd go, and like Milroy in his day, it gives us good reason to be excited because they are both fairly visible players in the draft, easy to identify with and be happy with in the 2nd round. There will almost certainly be some better players taken after him, whether he busts or not, but good luck identifying who they are right now. It's a reasonably "safe" pick, either way.

White was of course a very good pick where he was taken. I'm not sure we had to invest two picks in taking him, but I won't complain too much. I'm hoping he one day becomes another Mike Keane style player. But again, even if he does become another Ferland instead, you won't ever be able to say it was a bad idea to take him at that point in the draft.

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