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11-07-2003, 10:51 PM
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Post your top 10 / 2004

mine would be:
1- Ovechkin : Complete package +++ !!
2- Schremp : Pure talent !
3- Olesz : good all around player .
4- Malkin : Big skilled guy !
5- Barker : franchise defenseman?...
6- Pineault: Big rough guy, future power forward?..
7- Tukonen: Big fast guy with skill !
8- Dubnyk: Big goalie with tremendous ability!
9- Wolski: Another big guy with speed .. i still have some doubt about him .. still a good player tough!
10-McGrath: 1st line potential !

so post yours !

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11-08-2003, 12:25 AM
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Here you go:

1. Alexander Ovechkin—LW--Dynamo 6’02/195 - great overall talent... Top-noch player...
2. Robbie Schremp--C—Mississauga 6’00/195 - great offensive instincts... star in the making...
3. Evgeny Malkin—C—Mettal. Meg 6’02/176 - big frame and great skills... first line forward...
4. Cam Barker--D—Medicine Hat 6’03/212 - big and mobile with good sense... a future no.1 d-man...
5. Rostislav Olesz--F—HC Vitkovice 6’02/200 - big forward with solid skills... a good 2nd liner...
6. Wojtek Wolski--F—Brampton 6’03/185 - big and raw... has good puckskills... 1st liner...
7. Jakub Šindel—F—HC Slavia Praha 6’00/154 - small in stature but highly skilled... 1st line scorer...
8. Adam Pineault--Forward—NTDP U18 6’02/180 - good size and attitude... 2nd line power forward...
9. Lauri Tukonen--C—Ahmat Finland 6’02/194 - good size and puck skills... 1st liner...
10. Marek Schwarz—G—HC Sparta Praha 6’00/170 - small but very quick... franchise goalie...

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11-09-2003, 05:31 AM
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1. Alexander Ovechkin Franchise player, Joe Thorton times Two almost.
2. Cam Barker I see so much upside here. He's still raw so he probally wont go so high. But I just love the potential. I've seen him play quite a bit as well.
3. Rostislav Olesz, He's a toned down version of Ovechkin, He just gives it his all and he has good skill.
4. Evgeny Malkin Doesnt check alot, But he goes to the net hard as anyone, Has the size, and alot of skill. Could be #2
5. Robbie Schremp Skill would have him alone behind Ovechkin, But I dont like this trade me stuff.
6. Lauri Tukonen Underated player, Speedy finisher, Every team can use one.
7. Devan Dubnyk I like Schwarz but I dont see him doing things I've seen Dubnyk do. He could be the Fleury of the draft, I had Fleury ranked 6th last year on my top 30 at this time, Dubnyk could go higher.
8. Adam Pineault I've seen him and O'Neil play the most, He reminds me of Brendan Shanahan. Bold claim I know but he has alot of upside, at the least he's a the modern Scott Thorton.
9. Evan McGrath Another forward with big upside, Could be a scoring threat
10. Wes O'Neil Solid as they come, not many weakneses, He's a 2nd line guy.

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11-09-2003, 06:49 AM
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How about a top 30? I'd contribute but I don't know enough about the potentials and i wanted to see if you guys could help inform me....it would be fun to play with..........

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11-09-2003, 06:57 AM
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Legend i'll definitly post mine tonight or tomorow. Top 30's are usually 10 minute posts so i'll do that at a better time.

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thanks!!!!
I look forward to the reading..........

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11-09-2003, 07:15 AM
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1. Ovechkin
2. Schremp
3. Malkin
4. Olesz
5. Barker
6. Tukonen
7. Pineault
8. Wolski
9. McGrath
10. O'Neil

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11-09-2003, 07:20 AM
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1.Ovechkin
2.Wolski
3.O,Neill
4.Barker
5.Dubnyk
6.Olesz
7.Malkin
8.Schremp
9.Schwarz
10.Tukonen

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11-09-2003, 08:41 AM
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I do a top 30 before the season, Witch you'll be seeing now, I do a top 30 in Mid December so you can ask for that one legend and i'll pm it to you, I'll try to remember. Obviosly I do a final ranking at the end of the season. I'm a bit bias in my opinions on players, Here was my top 10 for 2003 before draft day.
1. Fleury 2. Zherdev 3. Horton 4. Michalek 5. Kastisyn 6. Couborn 7. Staal 8. Praise 9. Brown 10. Vanek

It's easy to see that the scouts didnt agree with me. I have seen all these players play on the list below, I'm a big fan of drafts, Thats my favroite day of the summer by far. I get all tapes from a family friend who is retired and lives just south of Thunder Bay. He travles and he's a big fan of Hockey as well, I have been doing these list since 2000, My biggest draft day victory I think was ranking Jeff Woywitka at 13th even though he was picked ver ylate in the first round by the Flyers...anywho...Heres my top 30 ranking of the moment.

1. Alexander "the Franchise" Ovechkin F 6-2/200 Moscow
No explination needed really, The guy has it all. I see him as the Russian Version of Joe Thorton and then some. He has it all! When it's all said and done he wont score as much as Ilya but I think he well mean more to his team.

2. Cam Barker D 6-3/210 Winnipeg He impresses me every time I recieve a tape of this guy. He's huge, he can play nasty, he has it all. He's a bit of a project. A team with a good devolopment system could crank out a dominant player here. He's a powerplay quaterback. I wouldnt want to be a goalie with his shot coming at me from the points. Offensivly gifted as Pitkanen and better on defense.

3. Rostislav Olesz F 6-2/205 Ostrava Not as talented as last years Czech star Michalek, but he does it all. He's going to be a 70 point getter in the NHL, He reminds me of Owen Nolan alot just with more speed. He goes to the net hard. He sticks up for teamates. Only have seen him play two times but he is a stud in the making.

4. Evgeni Malkin F 6-3/205 n/a He's big, he's talented, He played as well as Ovechkin in the U18 tournament. He's very skilled, he's a huge kid whose not completely filled out yet. He crashes the net as hard as anyone, He has all the skill to make him fancy, but thats not his game. He rather go threw you then around you. His offensive awareness is uncany. He doesnt hit much though. I wish he was more of a take it to the guy like Bertuzzi.

5. Rob Schremp F 6-0/200 Fulton Reminds me of Jason Spezza. Not as big but more talented I think. The kid has all the tools to be the go to guy on most NHL teams when he hits his prime. I dont like the Pre Madana crap though at all. I didnt like Spezza when he did it and I dont like it now. Although he'll get it together. I wouldnt be suprised to see him have another great season and be #2-4. He's the most pure skilled player in the draft. He doesnt pass it much, like Zherdev a puck hog, He'll get out of that once he touches the NHL believe me. He'll sign with his team after draft day and we'll be seeing him 2004-2005 season. He's very good.

6. Lauri Tukonen F 6-2/195 Hyvinkaa Out of all the players going for there status in the first round, Lauri plays in the toughest league. The closest thing to the NHL IMO in Europe. He is incredibly fast, Finish Flash fast. He is a fisher as well. He's got a nice fram, great balance. He excels at everything with the puck. Defense is starting to come around. If he drops out of the top 5 a steal IMO. He's going to be a slow coming prospect, but definitly underated.

7. Devan Dubnyk G 6-5/180 Regina The top goalie of the draft for me. He is huge, He's like Shean Burke, When he's on you basically can put a 0 on the scoreboard for the other team. He's a bit inconsitant. Lets in the easy goal against easier compition. I look forward to seeing him at the Worlds. Like Jiggy the only way you'll score on Dubnyk most of the time is if you get him moving. A goalie whose a bit raw but his upside is just so high. He's already dang good, he covers most of the net. Best goalie in the draft.

8. Adam Pineault F 6-3/200 Holyoke The Powerforward of the draft. He plays the powerforward game. Now lets make one thing clear, He's not as good as Horton,Bernier,Jessiman and Stewart. I see Pineault being a 2nd liner on a ok team. He's a sure fire pick though. He's going to be a guy who plays very well away from the puck and uses his frame to hit and put in around 50 points a year in the NHL. Watch Scott Thorton of the Sharks on one of his good days and thats what I see in Adam. I've seen Adam the most out of any prospect in the draft. To me he's a solid 2nd liner who well contribute points, but wont be a go to guy.

9. Evan McGrath F 6-1/180 Oakville solid size, He's not as big as Wolski. He's either going to make it or break it. He's a home run kind of pick. Although he works hard, good on his skates, so he could be a safe pick actually. But the reason a team well take him is becuase the kid can score. He has 1st line potential. Has great vision, Good on his skates, a hard shot thats realativly accurate. Good tape to tape passes. He reminds me of Jeff Friesen before the Devils made him into a defensive player.

10. Wes O'Neill D 6-3/200 Essex Big, Talented, Physical. Like Barker he does it all. He's not very offensive but he can make the play definitly. A good year could put him much higher then 10. He's just a tad risky. He has a temper problem. Takes dumb penalts...some times trys to go for the home run pass when it's not there and it cost him. But he's huge, He's talented, good skating ability, he likes to play physical...Complete package. Like Barker, still raw project.

11. Wojtek Wolski F 6-3/200 Zabze Could be the steal of the first round, A big and mean player, He has the skill to put in points in the NHL. Not very quick on his feet. He needs to work on that aspect. He can be lazy. But he has it all. Either you love him or you dont. I only have two taped games of him, One he dominated, the other he was non exsistant sp?

12. Kevin Mailhiot F 6-1/185 Granby

13. Drew Stafford F 6-2/200 Faribault

14. Ladislav Smid D 6-1/190 N/A

15. Jakub Sindel F 6-0/170 Prague

16. Marek Schwarz G 6-0/175 n/a

17. Johannes Salmonsson F 6-3/180 Uppsala

18. Konstantin Makarov F 5-11/195 Magnitogorsk

19. Mark Fistric D 6-3/220 Edmonton

20. Cory Schneider G 6-2/195 Marblehead

21. Andrej Meszaros D 6-2/190 n/a

22. Richard Demen-Willaume D 6-4/195 Asa

23. Mike Card D 6-1/195 Penticton

24. Roman Wick F 6-1/185 n/a

25. Kyle Chipchura F 6-1/195 Vimy

26. Enver Lisin F 6-1/180 n/a

27. Joe Barnes F 6-3/190 Winnipeg

28. Nikolai Lemtyugov F 6-1/175 n/a

29.lukas Kaspar F 6-2/190 N?A

30 Ryan Garlock

Steal of draft Dmitri ****ikov F 5-9/175 n/a

Solid 2nd rounder who could be the next Bergeron, Eric Hunter. Gotta get going. Feal free to ask questions about the guys I didnt detail, Or i'll just detail them all later.

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Thanks alot X-SHARKIE
I'm impressed.....it sounds like this draft is full of size in the early rounds.......or that's the impression that i get.........might be a good year for the Habs to finish is the bottom 10 if not 5.....don't get me wrong but the habs are one or two big players away from having a development system that can create a good team for years to come.....

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Based on what I've seen and the scouting reports I've gotten:

1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Evgeni Malkin
3. Cam Barker
4. Rostislav Olesz
5. Marek Schwarz
6. Robbie Schremp
7. Wojtek Wolski
8. Lauri Tukonen
9. Jakub Sindel
10. Devan Dubnyk

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1. Alexander Ovechkin
2. Rostislav Olesz
3. Evgeny Malkin
4. Rob Schremp
5. Cam Barker
6. Jakub Sindel
7. Wojtech Wolski
8. Evan McGrath
9. Lauri Tukonen
10. Adam Pineault ( Might not opt-in )

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Honorable Mention : Wes O'Neil ( Might not opt-in )

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heres my USA rankings, most of you won't agree with some of them, I honestly think Schneider is better than Montoya although most dont. My prediction is T.J. Hensick will go pretty high even though a lot of the current rankings don't think so! I think Schremp will go top 3, Pineault top 10. Some of these players might not even opt in like Auffrey and Kolarik. Booth probably will be higher than I am saying.

Rank Name Pos Current Team HT/WT Citizenship

1 Robbie Schremp C London 6-0/200 USA
2 Adam Pineault RW Boston College 6-3/200 USA
3 Drew Stafford C North Dakota 6-2/200 USA
4 Cory Schneider G Phillips-Andover 6-2/195 USA
5 T.J. Hensick C Michigan 5-9/180 USA
6 Alvaro Montoya G Michigan 6-1/190 USA
7 David Booth LW Michigan State 6-1/210 USA
8 Kyle Koziara D Cushing Academy 6-5/205 USA
9 Chad Kolarik C USNTDP-18 5-10/165 USA
10 Matt Auffrey LW USNTDP-18 6-2/190 USA
11 Robbie Earl LW Wisconsin 5-11/185 USA
12 Brian McGuirk LW Governor Dummer 6-0/180 USA
13 Paul Baier D Deerfield Academy 6-4/200 USA
14 Joe Fallon G Cedar Rapids 6-3/185 USA

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As a Pens fan, I want Tukonen if we can't get Ovechkin.

It'd sure be nice to get both though...somehow. Maybe since we're such a bad ECHL team we should get two picks.


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As a Pens fan, I want Tukonen if we can't get Ovechkin.

It'd sure be nice to get both though...somehow. Maybe since we're such a bad ECHL team we should get two picks.


myself since I see the Pens having a top 5 pick this year I would love to see them pick between these players:

Alexander Ovechkin
Rostislav Olesz
Evgeny Malkin
Robbie Schremp
Drew Stafford
Adam Pineault

Of course Ovechkin who in their right mind wouldn't want him, Olesz as well how can you dispute exciting offense with great defensive play and an add fiesty and physical touch to that, Malkin seems he would be a good fit for them as he is an offensive dynamo as well, Schremp has the skill Pittsbergh wants IMO and would be a great pick for them since he is capable at creating offense by himself but would he be the type of player that would want to play for Pits or would he demand a trade to a better team? Stafford and Pineault are both great players who are both big and can create offense on their own.

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sounds like this is gonna be a top heavy draft, with not too much after the top five.

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top 10

Alexander Ovechkin
Rostislav Olesz
Evgeny Malkin
Cam Barker
Robbie Schremp
Wojtech Wolski
Lauri Tukonen
Adam Pineault
Evan McGrath
Johannes Salmonsson

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sounds like this is gonna be a top heavy draft, with not too much after the top five.
no i like the first two rounds of this draft myself.

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Johannes Salmonsson can be left out of your list since he's out for most of the year with a serious injury. He'll most likely opt out.

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Johannes Salmonsson can be left out of your list since he's out for most of the year with a serious injury. He'll most likely opt out.
Hes actually returned.

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After Alexander Ovechkin, my personal favourites are...

1. Cam Barker
2. Johannes Salomonsson
3. Andrew Ladd
4. Wojtech Wolski
5. Carl Soderberg

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Hes actually returned.

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Wow! That's a GREAT surprise!!!


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After Alexander Ovechkin, my personal favourites are...

1. Cam Barker
2. Johannes Salomonsson
3. Andrew Ladd
4. Wojtech Wolski
5. Carl Soderberg
I would have to say mine are:

1. Rostislav Olesz
2. Cam Barker
3. Evan McGrath

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My top 10:


1. Alexander Ovechkin RW Dynamo Moscow 6-2/200 Russia

2. Rostislav Olesz C Vitkovice 6-2/205 Czech

3. Evgeni Malkin C Magnitogorsk 6-3/205 Russia

4. Robbie Schremp C London 6-0/200 USA

5. Adam Pineault C Boston College 6-3/200 USA

6. Cam Barker D Medicine Hat 6-3/210 Canada

7. Devan Dubnyk G Kamloops 6-5/190 Canada

8. Wojtek Wolski LW Brampton 6-3/200 Canada

9. Marek Schwarz G Sparta Praha 6-0/175 Czech

10. Evan McGrath C Kitchener 6-1/180 Canada

 
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