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06-29-2006, 01:38 PM
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Yes. And you should be Matt29. Change it.

If I do that, will I get "the fists of fury that is Brad Chartrand"?

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If I do that, will I get "the fists of fury that is Brad Chartrand"?
Only until we trade you to dump salary.

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I think that O'Sullivan and Kopitar jerseys would be safe investments, whereas Frolov and Brown jerseys might not be .

Regardless, I'd recommend waiting until late August or September before purchasing. It's not too bright to buy a jersey right now when that player may get traded this Summer, and there's little occasion to wear it, anyways. Also, Tubby makes a good point about not being sure which number the rookies will have.
<looks in closet> let's see, I've got a Deadmarsh, Palffy, Robitaille, Frolov and Visnovsky.

I don't think I'll be buying any new jerseys for a while...

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06-29-2006, 03:19 PM
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<looks in closet> let's see, I've got a Deadmarsh, Palffy, Robitaille, Frolov and Visnovsky.

I don't think I'll be buying any new jerseys for a while...
Heh. Well, you buy enough of them that you'll always have a current King in your closet, and they're more of souvenirs, anyways. Those who need to be more careful are the ones who buy a jersey only once every blue moon and want to get maximum use out if it.

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06-29-2006, 06:31 PM
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<looks in closet> let's see, I've got a Deadmarsh, Palffy, Robitaille, Frolov and Visnovsky.

I don't think I'll be buying any new jerseys for a while...

With that track record maybe you should buy Avery and Sopel jerseys

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06-30-2006, 12:18 AM
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Found this article on PaddyO. Good read. The kid has heart & soul and apparently went through hell and back and came out on top.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/whoselifeisit/story.html

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06-30-2006, 12:27 AM
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<looks in closet> let's see, I've got a Deadmarsh, Palffy, Robitaille, Frolov and Visnovsky.

I don't think I'll be buying any new jerseys for a while...
Now I don't feel so bad. We've got signed jerseys from Robitaille, Demitra, Deadmarsh, Palffy, Sykora (Devils not Ducks) and Brodeur. Also have Slovak national jersey signed by Palffy, Demitra & Visnovsky.

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06-30-2006, 01:38 AM
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<looks in closet> let's see, I've got a Deadmarsh, Palffy, Robitaille, Frolov and Visnovsky.

I don't think I'll be buying any new jerseys for a while...
Ha, I get my Boucher jersey and a few months later he bolts to Dallas.

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06-30-2006, 02:37 AM
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Now I don't feel so bad. We've got signed jerseys from Robitaille, Demitra, Deadmarsh, Palffy, Sykora (Devils not Ducks) and Brodeur. Also have Slovak national jersey signed by Palffy, Demitra & Visnovsky.
Does this mean Visnovsky is next to go?

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Found this article on PaddyO. Good read. The kid has heart & soul and apparently went through hell and back and came out on top.
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/whoselifeisit/story.html
Excellent read.

The guy's guy my respect, 100%. Especially the part about "breaking the cycle" and just b/c he went through it doesn't mean he's going to put his kids through it.

He'll be fine. Can't wait to see him in a Kings uniform!!!!

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06-30-2006, 08:56 PM
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Does this mean Visnovsky is next to go?
While in the new NHL, no one is untouchable... That would be a resounding NO.

I did call the winner of the SCF didn't I? Even if in the earlier rounds, picking the Ducks, et al coincided with those teams bowing out in the playoffs...
Perhaps I SHOULD switch allegiances to the team down south. If the pundits are correct, then Anaheim would tank. Hmmmm.. perhaps those who insinuated that I am a jinx are onto something....

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I don't think that Frolov is terribly lazy, but I am in favor of trading him if the right deal came along. Same thing with Demitra. This team has one or two untouchables, if that.
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07-04-2006, 07:35 PM
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Patrick O'Sullivan

Some people here have been casting doubts on O'Sullivan making the Kings out of training camp... that he could use another year in the AHL. I was doing some research earlier...

Eric Staal
Born Oct 29, 1984
Age 16 - 2000-01 Peterborough Petes OHL 63gms 19g 30a 49pts - 0.777PPG
Age 17 - 2001-02 Peterborough Petes OHL 56gms 23g 39a 62pts - 1.107PPG
Age 18 - 2002-03 Peterborough Petes OHL 66gms 39g 59a 98pts - 1.48PPG
Age 19 - 2003-04 Carolina Hurricanes NHL 81gms 11g 20a 31pts - 0.383PPG
Age 20 - 2004-05 Lowell Lock Monsters AHL 77gms 26g 51a 77pts - 1.000PPG
Age 21 - 2005-06 Carolina Hurricanes NHL 82gms 45g 55a 100pts - 1.220PPG

Patrick O'Sullivan
Born Feb 1, 1985
Age 16 - 2001-02 Mississauga Ice Dogs OHL 68gms 34g 58a 92pts - 1.353PPG
Age 17 - 2002-03 Mississauga Ice Dogs OHL 56gms 40g 41a 81pts - 1.446PPG
Age 18 - 2003-04 Mississauga Ice Dogs OHL 53gms 43g 39a 82pts - 1.547PPG
Age 19 - 2004-05 Mississauga Ice Dogs OHL 57gms 31g 59a 90pts - 1.579PPG
Age 20 - 2005-06 Houston Aeros AHL 78gms 47g 46a 93pts - 1.192PPG

The key numbers to compare are the points-per-game at each age. O'Sullivan had significantly better numbers at the same ages and in the same leagues than Staal did, year after year, and, now, he's the same age as Eric was at this point last year. Understand that I'm not suggesting that he will be as good or better than Staal. I'm simply posing the following question...

Upon seeing these numbers, do you still think that O'Sullivan really has a snowball's chance of going back to the AHL?


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07-04-2006, 07:40 PM
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Upon seeing these numbers, do you still think that O'Sullivan really has a snowball's chance of going back to the AHL?
Is he going to be subject to waivers? I didn't think so. Thus the answer remains yes, there's a chance. (See Cammalleri, Michael)...

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O'Sullivan is ready. We have not signed one top 6 forward except maybe McCauley. I don't know why people would think O'Sullivan will go back to the AHL. Would you have sent Cammalleri back to the AHL last season where he tore up the league during the lockout? The answer is no because he had nothing left to prove at that level. Its the same with O'Sullivan. The kid had 47 goals. He is ready for the NHL.

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07-04-2006, 07:51 PM
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Is he going to be subject to waivers? I didn't think so. Thus the answer remains yes, there's a chance. (See Cammalleri, Michael)...
I know that you're holding out hope of seeing him in Manchester, but do you really want him to be held back? O'Sullivan can't be compared to Cammalleri. The two have had very different paths to the NHL. O'Sullivan is much further ahead than Cammalleri was at the same age. His path is almost identical to Staal's, hence my comparison.

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O'Sullivan is ready. We have not signed one top 6 forward except maybe McCauley. I don't know why people would think O'Sullivan will go back to the AHL. Would you have sent Cammalleri back to the AHL last season where he tore up the league during the lockout? The answer is no because he had nothing left to prove at that level. Its the same with O'Sullivan. The kid had 47 goals. He is ready for the NHL.
He might be ready, time will tell. The Kings will probably give him a shot in the top 6. If he performs well good for everyone. If he struggles, the AHL remains an option for him to continue his development...

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I know that you're holding out hope of seeing him in Manchester, but do you really want him to be held back? O'Sullivan can't be compared to Cammalleri. The two have had very different paths to the NHL. O'Sullivan is much further ahead than Cammalleri was at the same age. His path is almost identical to Staal's, hence my comparison.
I'm NOT holding out hope of seeing him in Manchester. I haven't even renewed my tickets for this season, but nice try. Please don't suggest you know what I'm thinking and have selfish motives because I don't agree with you...

I'm not suggesting that he be held back...

Just pointing out that he hasn't played an NHL game yet and as such, it's a stretch to say that there isn't a chance he'd be sent to the AHL....

Cammalleri's first trip to Manchester = 20-pts in 13-games
Cammalleri's second trip to Manchester = 39-pts in 41-games

Staal went directly into the NHL from Juniors for a season then to the AHL during the lockout. Much different than O'Sullivan going to the AHL directly from the Juniors...


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IMO McAuley is a perfect 3rd liner, not even close to being a 2nd liner. The only top 6 forwards we have are Frolov, Conroy, Cammalleri. That's it. Better hope Kopitar and O'Sullivan are given a chance to show they are on that level. And hope that Brown turns the offensive corner this year (which I think he will eventually turn, but will it be this year???).

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And hope that Brown turns the offensive corner this year (which I think he will eventually turn, but will it be this year???).
if he learns how to play in front of the net, then sure he should score more goals....

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if he learns how to play in front of the net, then sure he should score more goals....
I think he knows how I just don't think its the way murray was playing him

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I think he knows how I just don't think its the way murray was playing him
from what i saw last season, the coaches were trying everything in their power to get Brown playing in front of the net...he just looked very lost whenever he got their...seemed like Brown was often being individually worked with at practices on tip-ins, etc at the net, but he just wasnt getting it down....i remember one game he played pretty effectively at the net, and that was against TOR where he buried a couple goals in close...but other than that, he just seemed like he didnt want to nor know how to play that style of game

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o my mistake, i thought most of his goals last season were from the front of the net type of plays.

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Staal went directly into the NHL from Juniors for a season then to the AHL during the lockout. Much different than O'Sullivan going to the AHL directly from the Juniors...
Yet the result wasn't much different. Staal managed "only" a PPG in his rookie AHL season, whereas O'Sullivan managed almost 1.2PPG. Of course, Staal's AHL year was the lockout year, so he was playing against slightly better players, but O'Sullivan didn't already have a year of pro hockey (in the NHL, no less) under his belt, so I think that it evens out.

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