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04-08-2006, 10:25 PM
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Chris Chelios

I am writing a bio for all time history draft

Anythign you can tell me about Chris Chelios game and career in a habs uni wouldbe appreciated.

He played with you guys from

1983-84 til 89-90

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He played with you guys from

1983-84 til 89-90
Thanks for telling us. We did not know.

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Thanks for telling us. We did not know.


I need insight from good hab fans who appreciate great hockey and great players

a respone like his wont help

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Chelios played for the habs

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involved in one of the worst hab trades of all-time.

chelios for savard.

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Defensively very aware, not every fast, but smooth skater. I always felt comfortable when he was in posession of the puck. Like Guy Carbonneau, I would never worry that these guys would turn it over.

Good passer.

Nasty hitter. (on and off the ice)

Was he the one who was traded because he slept with Corey's wife?

Lived life to the fullest in Montreal.

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involved in one of the worst hab trades of all-time.

chelios for savard.

montreal wanted savard because they missed him in the draft

he was a all time great at one point in his career but sadly for the habs his great yrs were passed while chelios career was just gearing up

They were both 27 or 28 at the time of the trade

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involved in one of the worst hab trades of all-time.

chelios for savard.
Plus, Chelios was dealt (like Carbonneau, Roy, etc..) because of management issues, not a straight deal.

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04-08-2006, 10:37 PM
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Here is a fun fact for you:

Chirs Chelios' name is actually Christos K. Chelios

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Plus, Chelios was dealt (like Carbonneau, Roy, etc..) because of management issues, not a straight deal.
They also thought at the time that young Mathieu Schneider was developing even better than Chelios at the same age and that he would fill any void left by Chelios.

And p.s. to hurt Montreal even more is the fact that a 2nd rounder also went to Chicago along with Chelly for Savard.

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They also thought at the time that young Mathieu Schneider was developing even better than Chelios at the same age and that he would fill any void left by Chelios.
Right. And Svoboda was developping nicely too...

*sigh* Svoboda, Chelios, Schneider, Desjardins, Daigneault, Odelein...

Ami I dreaming, or did these guys actually play together.

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* In 2004 Chris and surfer Laird Hamilton trained with the US bobsled team, and hoped to form the first Greek bobsled team at the 2006 Winter Olympics. They weren't successful
* Grew up in Chicago, where his father, Constantine "Gus" Chelios owned a chain of Greek restaurants.
* The family moved to Poway, CA in 1977 when his father left his struggling business in Chicago to open a restaurant in the San Diego area.
* Was a Chicago Black Hawks fan during his childhood, but was more focused on football, idolizing Bears linebacker Dick Butkus.
* Active in charitable causes during his playing days in Chicago, founding Cheli's Children.
* Opened Cheli's Chil Bar restaurant in Dearborn, MI, in 2003.
* Opened second Cheli's Chili Bar restaurant in downtown Detroit, MI, in 2006.
* Older brother of former minor-leaguer Steve Chelios. Cousin of NHL player Nikos Tselios, whose father was one of Chelios' father's brothers. The family name was originally Tselios, but Gus Chelios changed his family's spelling to "Chelios."[1]

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04-08-2006, 10:43 PM
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Right. And Svoboda was developping nicely too...

*sigh* Svoboda, Chelios, Schneider, Desjardins, Daigneault, Odelein...

Ami I dreaming, or did these guys actually play together.
Schneider was just coming into the league when Chelios was traded. Svoboda was initially highly touted but not like Schneider. Schneider was expected to be even better than Chelios, which made trading him that much easier.

As for them playing together, Svoboda, Desjardins, JJ Daigneault, Odelein, Brisbois, Kevin Haller, Bryan Fogarty and rent a player Rob Ramage won the Cup in '93 together as one of the youngest defensive corp to do so.

Chelios was a stud d-man for Montreal even at his young age. He wasn't overly offensive but held his own in that regard but the thing that really set him apart was that he did all the little things very well...on top of being defensively responsible and abrasive...always playing with a bit of an edge. Don Cherry used to say that Chelios would get little bit of that 'crazy look in his eyes' when you're not exactly sure what he was capable of doing.

He had a head for the details and did so many little things like going over to change his stick to give his penalty killers extra 20 seconds of rest between whistles. Little things like that you don't really see on TV but really notice when you are there watching the game live.

Above all, he really, really loved playing the game of hockey...so much so that he played for years with torn MCL and ACL in each of his knees without getting operated for fear that he was too old to come back from such an operation...this is why he developed his upright, no-knee bend skating style. Imagine the thresh hold of pain on this guy to play like that for years! Since the operation though, this has been less noticeable.

He loved the game so much that he move from US and went up to Canadian north to play where even Canadians don't like going!!! He even changed his position from forward to defense early on his career to get more ice time once he realized that defensemen get to stay out on the ice more than forwards!!!


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Schneider was just coming into the league when Chelios was traded.

As for Svoboda, Desjardins, JJ Daigneault, Odelein, Brisbois, Kevin Haller, Bryan Fogarty and Rob Ramage won the Cup in '93 together as one of the youngest defensive corp to do so.
Wasn't svoboda traded for Haller?

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Chris Chelios D

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Has been one of the toughest defensemen to beat one-on-one throughout his career. Always plays a smart game in the defensive zone and is terrific in transition. Is still nasty but has learned to pick his spots and for the majority of his career he logged huge amounts of ice time.The more chris played the better he played. He is one of the leagues best defenceman one on one.He is indispensible on the ice.

Chelios and Ray Bourque were the premiere d-man of there time patroling the blueline. They long jockeyed as the dominant all-round defensman of there era. If Borq made beating boston tough then chelios made surviving a date with chicago an ordeal.

Chelios has great instincts, strong skating, and top drawer offensive gifts meant he could had been a Norris Trophy candidate without repeatedly bloodying his nose in the first half of his now 3 decade spanning career.

Traded to chicago for hall of famer denis savard who was on the back side of his career despite being the same age as chelios.Chris's career continue to advance and he entrenched himself as the most skilled and menacing players of his era.

He has won 3 Norris Trophys

His stint with the Chicago Blackhawks solidified Chris Chelios' standing as the most menacing skilled defenseman in the league. He was known as a player who would do anything to win, regarded by most as a player other NHL players hated playing against. Even as Chris amassed over 2,000 penalty minutes, his offensive numbers were never too far behind his gritty play. Chelios would win two more Norris trophies during while in Chicago and led the team in points during the 1995-96 season. His time in Chicago came to an end at the 1999 NHL trade deadline when he was dealt to the Detroit Red Wings for defenceman Anders Ericksson and two first-round draft picks (1999 and 2001). The move to Detroit did not yield a Red Wing three-peat, but Chelios helped Detroit win the Stanley Cup in 2002 and is back with the Wings for the 2005-06 season.

He has won 2 cups with montreal and detroit. Silver Medal at the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah.


A tireless worker and one of the most fit players in the NHL, Chelios began his 22nd NHL season in 2005-06 Chelios reached the 900-point plateau during the 02-03 regular seson, was named to his second World Cup team in the summer of 2004


Obviously he has great skills but he will back stab you any time he gets a chance - randy burridge

Alot of people fight for the puck Chris plays like he is fighting for his life - Bill Clement.

Telling chris he cant play is like cutting off his arm- Luc Robitaille

Chelios is the best defenceman in the league. He gives you no gap between himself and the oncoming forward.When you're going forward, most defenseman go back, but it seems like h's going forward and back at the same time. There's always pressure on the puck- Paul Kariya

Reg Season Totals 1471 181 742 923 +328 2801
NHL Playoff Totals 222 30 107 137 +44 378

NHL All-Rookie Team (1985) NHL First All-Star Team (1989, 1993,95,96,02)
James Norris Memorial Trophy (89,93,96) NHL Second All-Star Team (1991, 1997)
Bud Light Plus/Minus Award (02) Canada Cup All-Star Team (1991)
World Cup All-Star Team (96)
Played in NHL All-Star Game (85,90,91,92,93,94,96,97,98,00,02)


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Wasn't svoboda traded for Haller?
Actually, now that you mention it, I believe that you're right. Svoboda went to Buffalo for Kevin Haller.

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Savard was the same age as chelios? no way i don't believe it...

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montreal wanted savard because they missed him in the draft

he was a all time great at one point in his career but sadly for the habs his great yrs were passed while chelios career was just gearing up

They were both 27 or 28 at the time of the trade


this must be way wrong wasnt savard like 31 or 32?

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this must be way wrong wasnt savard like 31 or 32?

Savard is born in 61
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php3?pid=4789

Chelios is born in 62
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...3?pid=00000946

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holy sh$t.

Man savard didn't last long did he

how old when he retired?


Savard must have started in the NHL much earlier than chelios or

just thought that savard was older at the time, anyway D-man that have styles like chelios last longer than forwards with styles like savards(body types), barring carreer threatening injuries. Scoring forwards with little frames that can't score anymore retire quick. D-man like Cheli last as long as their body can last cause they are that good defensively and physically, with good puck moving abilities.

Anyway i hated that trade the day i heard about it, i loved chelios on our blueline. He was a rock that everybody respected out there. ppl who say that schneider was gonna replace him, no way. Schneider was not as good defensively or physically as chelios ever. if chelios stayed in MTL we would be waiting for #27-28 not #25.


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yes savard started a few seasons earlier in 1980-81 and he played over 1100 games retiring after 96-97

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Here is a fun fact for you:

Chirs Chelios' name is actually Christos K. Chelios
Not exactly, it Tselios, the origin Greek name.

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Chellios was able to shot the puck holding his hockey stick left or right side ...

he loves to play hockey ; was the first to arrived and the last to left the ice , during the practices ...love to use his stick in the ice or in the night ( ! ).

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As for them playing together, Svoboda, Desjardins, JJ Daigneault, Odelein, Brisbois, Kevin Haller, Bryan Fogarty and rent a player Rob Ramage won the Cup in '93 together as one of the youngest defensive corp to do so.
Bryan Fogarty did not play for the 1992-93 Canadiens... however, Donald Dufresne and Sean Hill did.

Additionally, Peter Svoboda was traded to the Buffalo Sabres for Kevin Haller. The Canadiens eliminted Svoboda and his Sabres in the second round en route to their Cup title. Your missing Matheiu Schnider, who whilie battling injuries that season, was a big part of their Cup winning defense.

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Chelios was a stud d-man for Montreal even at his young age. He wasn't overly offensive but held his own in that regard but the thing that really set him apart was that he did all the little things very well...on top of being defensively responsible and abrasive...always playing with a bit of an edge. Don Cherry used to say that Chelios would get little bit of that 'crazy look in his eyes' when you're not exactly sure what he was capable of doing.
This also seems to be a bit of revisionist history... Chelios was definitely very adept as an offensive defenseman, he racked up 64 points his first full season in the league (which placed him third on the team for scoring, just two points out of 2nd on the team in scoring - as a rookie - and a defenseman!) He also piled up 73 points his Norris winning season. No question Chelios was a skilled offensive player - to say he wasn't "overly offensive" is just plain wrong.

As for your quote about Cherry - I certainly don't remember him ever saying any such thing, and it's also a mischaracterization of Chelios' days in Montreal ... he was never a loose cannon or wild player like that at all.

I've also deleted the strange analysis of his skating style and his alleged knee injuries that created it... No player - and certianly no team medical staff - would ever let a player skate for years on torn MCL or ACLs - the suggestion is absurd and has no basis in reality.

This person is looking for actual biographical information about Chris Chelios as a Montreal Canadien. You are writing fiction.

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Not exactly, it Tselios, the origin Greek name.
Nikos Tselios (Drafted by Carolina) is his cousin.

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