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07-07-2006, 10:50 AM
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Are Alberts or Jurcina available?

Since Boston signed Chara, who is avilable from the depth chart now? I'm (the caps) looking for a physical defensive D-man. What would it take

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07-07-2006, 11:08 AM
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I think the B's are gonna stand pat w/ this D unless they get shutout from a UFA winger and none of the forward prospects make any waves in camp...check back in later september

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07-07-2006, 12:40 PM
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You can have both Alberts and Jurcina.We will take a 2nd round next year and a 1st in 08

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I doubt Jurcina gets traded, im sure Chara would wanna play with him.Maybe Alberts get moved but only when M.Stuart is ready and that could be this season the way Stuart played at the end of the season

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David Tanabe could be had for a 2nd (maybe 3rd) round pick in the 2007 draft.

IMO, Andrew Alberts value is about that (maybe more). Jurcina's value is higher.

Either way, The Capitals don't have anything Boston wants, and can get ahold of. Everything the Bruins would want, The Capitals wouldn't be willing to give up.

Alberts + Jurcina couldn't return Semin, and that is what The Bruins are looking to get.

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How bout Alberts and Krejci for Zubrus?

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Caps fan eh?

I have been thinking for ahwile that there should be something worked around Chris Bourque going to the Bruins (+ something) for the rights to Sergei Zinovjev and Andrew Alberts (or Tanabe).

NOT just because it would bring Ray's boy to Boston.... but because Bourque and Kessel could be dynamic together (remember WJC's) and because Zinovjev is likely soured on Boston but would likely jump at the chance to play with AO again.

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alberts maybe - jurcina highly doubtful. whatchu got to offer?

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alberts maybe - jurcina highly doubtful. whatchu got to offer?
Would you do Alberts for Zubrus?

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Caps fan eh?

I have been thinking for ahwile that there should be something worked around Chris Bourque going to the Bruins (+ something) for the rights to Sergei Zinovjev and Andrew Alberts (or Tanabe).

NOT just because it would bring Ray's boy to Boston.... but because Bourque and Kessel could be dynamic together (remember WJC's) and because Zinovjev is likely soured on Boston but would likely jump at the chance to play with AO again.
imo, this is asking for trouble. bringing in chris bourque is a bad idea.

you may not remember the thread on the bruins board (found here) where people were ripping him apart for apparently disrespecting opponents after a game. people used the dreaded "would his father have ever done such a thing?" things like that would greatly stunt chris's growth into whatever he may become in the nhl.

imagine being compared to your father after every game. every mistake. every missed net. every defensive miscue. and imagine being under that microscope by the fans, the team and the oppressive media day in and day out for your entire career (or as long as he would stay with the team).

chris bourque will never work as a boston bruin for those reasons. period.

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alberts maybe - jurcina highly doubtful. whatchu got to offer?
A glut of wing prospects with various degrees of readiness. Or picks in next years draft, though likely not the first rounder. Future considerations as well maybe lol?

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Would you do Alberts for Zubrus?
i'd prefer a younger guy who can score off the wing. zubrus seems to be better suited in the middle. also, i'd be surprised if the caps moved him.

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A glut of wing prospects with various degrees of readiness. Or picks in next years draft, though likely not the first rounder. Future considerations as well maybe lol?
i wouldn't deal alberts for futures. but if there's a prospect in capland that has top 6 upside and is young/close to NHL-ready, let's talk.

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....Zinovjev is likely soured on Boston but would likely jump at the chance to play with AO again.
Play again... well, it certainly wasn't in the RSL. AO grew up in Dynamo's system and Zinovjev through Novokuznetsk, Spartak and Ak-Bars. They're different enough in ages that they didn't play together in junior tournaments either.

This idea that Zinovjev and Ovechkin are meant to play together... any foundation for this, or why he would jump at the chance to play in Washington when he won't go to Boston? Because it's not a deep history between these two players. Because of age, they only appeared on the same team in a couple of tournaments in the last two years, all of about 10-15 games total. It's a big stretch to argue that AO would be a compelling reason for this player to leave the RSL.


Alberts and Jurcina are players the Bruins will probably want to retain. The trading of either would be considered only with an eye towards bringing in NHL talent, assets that the Capitals do not currently possess except, as mentioned above, assets that the Caps will be reluctant to trade.

Zinovjev, a productive player who appears content in the RSL and shows no sign of leaving unless significant dollars are waved in front of him, likely will not be of interest to the Capitals unless he has already made the move to the NHL. If he does make the jump, I'm sure their interest would be higher, but as it is, there is no overriding SZ-AO history to factor into whatever decisions Zinovjev makes. Looks to me as though the deciding decisionmaking variables are entirely financial in nature. He'd want a one-way deal for significant remuneration.


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Alberts and maybe a pick for Fleischmann??

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I would hope the Bruins hung on to Jurcina, that kid's got a cannon from the point. Is he Czech or Slovak? If the latter, there's a natural pairing with Chara.

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He's a slovak and played a little with Chara on the Slovakian olympic team. I'd like to hang on to him.

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I would hope the Bruins hung on to Jurcina, that kid's got a cannon from the point. Is he Czech or Slovak? If the latter, there's a natural pairing with Chara.
Some NHLers have said he might have the hardest shot in the league after trying to block his point shots... if only he could get it on net more often.

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Alberts and maybe a pick for Fleischmann??
thats almost exactly what I was thinking.

Flash had an amazing AHL season AND AHL playoffs, and is a natural LW i believe. Stuck behind AO and Semin, but I've seen he may be switched to RW for the caps if he makes it out of camp.

I wouldn't mind trading Alberts for Flash.

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Some NHLers have said he might have the hardest shot in the league after trying to block his point shots... if only he could get it on net more often.
Jurcina is amazing

October-----1gp----0g
November--9gp----0g
December--7gp----0g
January---- 14gp----5g
February----6gp----0g
March-------6gp----1g
April--------8gp----0g

for a couple games his shot was magic...up to then nothing, and after then...practically nothing

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I think Alberts is on the block. We need depth at forward. Chara is the ideal mentor for Jurcina, so he's not going anywhere. And the Bruins have a similar player in prospect Mark Stuart, who is NHL ready and can step in and replace Alberts. So I expect Alberts to be dealt before the start of the season.

I'd like to get a top-6 forward for him. Maybe one of Buffalo's RFA's... then again,
I'd hate to see him dealt within the division, because this guy's nasty. He's fast, loves to hit, and hits like a truck.

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thats almost exactly what I was thinking.

Flash had an amazing AHL season AND AHL playoffs, and is a natural LW i believe. Stuck behind AO and Semin, but I've seen he may be switched to RW for the caps if he makes it out of camp.

I wouldn't mind trading Alberts for Flash.
I would trade be on board with that trade: Alberts for Fleischmann

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I would trade be on board with that trade: Alberts for Fleischmann
Blech. No way.

If we are going to deal with the Caps they have better alternatives.

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Blech. No way.

If we are going to deal with the Caps they have better alternatives.
like Zubrus? Semin? AO? lol...how much Value you think Alberts has?

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I think Alberts is on the block. We need depth at forward. Chara is the ideal mentor for Jurcina, so he's not going anywhere. And the Bruins have a similar player in prospect Mark Stuart, who is NHL ready and can step in and replace Alberts. So I expect Alberts to be dealt before the start of the season.

I'd like to get a top-6 forward for him. Maybe one of Buffalo's RFA's... then again,
I'd hate to see him dealt within the division, because this guy's nasty. He's fast, loves to hit, and hits like a truck.
Alberts for Afinigenov

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