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11-10-2003, 07:56 PM
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Ronning

This is an article on www.startribune.com outta Minnesota. Check out the 2nd to last paragraph.
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Ron Perrick, the agent for Cliff Ronning, said Friday that the former Wild center "will be playing within the next two weeks."

Ronning, now 38, is working out with a university team in Vancouver and skating with Canucks' old-timers. He's also coaching his 4-year-old son Ty's hockey team.

"His oldest daughter said to me, 'Dad's gone from playing in the NHL to coaching the termites,' " Perrick said.

An indicator of Ronning's value: Steve Thomas, 40, signed with Detroit this week for $1 million. A rejuvenated Thomas totaled eight points in 21 playoff games with Anaheim last season. Go back the last three seasons, though, and Ronning has piled up 164 points, compared to Thomas' 79.

"There are teams that need him," Perrick said.

Edmonton, a team with a dearth of centers and a short trip from home that would keep Ronning in the Northwest Division, seems like a natural fit.

Ronning's Woodbury home remains for sale. His wife returned to Minnesota this week to do some cleaning.
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Intriguing... and Ronning could probably help the Oilers. But... it doesn't seem like the sort of move the Oilers would typically make.

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If the price range was about 1 million or less.. this is very doable. Not sure if the Oilers are in the mindset of adding veterans into the lineup but it's definitely a viable possibility.

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Very interesting.

I like it. Hes 38, but hes always been a little speedster, so I think his wheels could still keep up with this team.

Last years stats: 80 17 31 48, and i think he scored 9 pointes in 17 playoff games. I wonder how long it would take him to get into game shape.


But then again, the Oilers simply dont do moves like this. How excited did we all get at the Berard prospect?
Still for about 1Mil, this would really solve that center question, and ...oh
boy... wouldnt MiniMike like that?

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Ronning? I'm in.

And with Reasoner injured now that should open it up for him to come in. He may be old but he is speedy, experienced, and can be relied upon to put pucks in the net.

We need a good veteran to add to the mix.

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We could use a good vet center to play a two-way game, but I'm not a fan of Ronning and would definatly pass. But thats just me.

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Pass. Much rather acquire a young center who can make a present and future contribution to the team, rather than a 38-year-old hired gun. His point producing prospects are decent, but I don't think it'd be the best move we could make. If we were gonna do something along those lines, I'd much rather pay more for Oates, but I don't think I'd make that move either.

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I said from the time this whole Comrie fiasco started that they should sign Ronning. Never mind the fact that he'd help at centre but his most important part to this team would be on the PP. He's been great on the PP no matter where he's played and if he can't help out this unit then it's more of a coaching problem then a personal problem. Ronning can play up front or on the point on the PP and he acts like a little general out there. The biggest reason for the Wilds' success PP was Ronning,he was that added element they needed to get over the hump. I think he'd excel and love to play in the Oilers offence first system.

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Pass. Much rather acquire a young center who can make a present and future contribution to the team, rather than a 38-year-old hired gun. His point producing prospects are decent, but I don't think it'd be the best move we could make. If we were gonna do something along those lines, I'd much rather pay more for Oates, but I don't think I'd make that move either.

I'll keep sayin Tim Connolly.........until you're all completely sick of it!
and then I'll say it again.

Well, Ronning wouldnt exactly be a "long term" solution. Just to get us through this season. And a "young center who can make a present and future contribution to the team" would cost us some players or picks, where as Ronning would not.
Also, you sure youd like to hand over the 1st Line Center position to a cream puff like Connolly? Id feel much better giving Reasoner a 5 game tryout between Hemsky & Smyth (It seems like almost everyone else got their turn)

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Well, Ronning wouldnt exactly be a "long term" solution. Just to get us through this season. And a "young center who can make a present and future contribution to the team" would cost us some players or picks, where as Ronning would not.
Also, you sure youd like to hand over the 1st Line Center position to a cream puff like Connolly? Id feel much better giving Reasoner a 5 game tryout between Hemsky & Smyth (It seems like almost everyone else got their turn)
At least then you have the option or Reasoner going up or Connolly, either way I like it. I'd gladly deal for the guy, he's young, has alot of potential, and has already proven he can put up points. Fits the system pretty well IMO, could become the #1 eventually, at worst probably a #2. My deal of course is Horcoff+, not exactly sure what it would take because I don't know the specifics of Buffalo's situation right now, but I really think the team could use a guy like this. I'd much rather have a longer term solution than a guy like Ronning. The one advantage of Ronning is, he'd be playing for a contract in his next season, if he intends to have one.

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IMO Reasoner would thrive playing in between Hemsky and Smyth. The only problem would be if Stoll can play like he did tonight and do a good job on the third line so that we can afford to move him and use him as a top six type guy.

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I'd like to get a jack of all trades forward like Lupul or Bell who can play Lw/Center/Rw so we can have them play center now and move them to either wing when Niinimaki or Pouliot come up + it makes it really easy to fill in for injuries.

Ronning is not a bad option but not totally sold on it yet but I do like the idea of having him on the pp. 4th line center with heavy minutes on the PP?(averages more points on the PP then Smyth)

Smyth-Reasoner-Hemsky
Torres-York-Dvorak
Moreau-Stoll-Pisani
Isbister-Ronning-Laraque(that last one just looks weird)

Chimera/Ronning/Salmelainen???(maybe he could teach them a lot)

trade Isbister,Laraque, and Horcoff for picks and prospects?(pretty decent 4th line for a team needing depth)

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I'd like to get a jack of all trades forward like Lupul or Bell who can play Lw/Center/Rw so we can have them play center now and move them to either wing when Niinimaki or Pouliot come up + it makes it really easy to fill in for injuries.

Ronning is not a bad option but not totally sold on it yet but I do like the idea of having him on the pp. 4th line center with heavy minutes on the PP?(averages more points on the PP then Smyth)

Smyth-Reasoner-Hemsky
Torres-York-Dvorak
Moreau-Stoll-Pisani
Isbister-Ronning-Laraque(that last one just looks weird)

Chimera/Ronning/Salmelainen???(maybe he could teach them a lot)

trade Isbister,Laraque, and Horcoff for picks and prospects?(pretty decent 4th line for a team needing depth)
In an aquistion of Ronning it would most likely be Stoll as our extra forward. Ronning on the top line, Reasoner in his checking role, and Horcoff on the 4th.

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In an aquistion of Ronning it would most likely be Stoll as our extra forward. Ronning on the top line, Reasoner in his checking role, and Horcoff on the 4th.
2001-02 Season
______|_GP_|_ G_|_A_|_P_|
Total__| 81 | 19 | 35 | 54 |
PP____| 81 | 5 | 18 | 23 |
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Differential | 14 | 17 | 31 |

2002-03 Season
_______|_GP_|_G_|_A_|_P_|
Total___| 81 | 17 | 31 | 48 |
PP_____| 81 | 8 | 14 | 22 |
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Differential | 9 | 17 | 26 |

I'd say his numbers look very close to that of the 4th liners if his PP time is excluded on even strength he does not do a whole lot for us that one of our youngsters could not do. They would benefit from the extra ice-time while Ronning is a rental and his game is obviously slipping as a result of age ask any Wild fan, I say hes a leader with experience and a master on the power-play but unless he proves otherwise I don't think he deserves much more then that alotment of ice-time and lots of work on the PP. For comparison Weight got 3 G 22A 25P in 77 games in the 99-00 season and 8G 32A 40P in 82games in the 00-01 season (40 of his 90Pts on the PP )

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I like this move because it allows the oilers to maintain their focus of developing youth. Bring in Ronning as a pp specialist and fourth line centre. It gives all the kids a bit more confidence on the pp and still gives them es ice time. Assuming next year is locked out, we have niniimaaki and pouliot fighting for centre positions in 2 years allong with Miknov, Brodziak, and Rita pushing the vets. We really don't need a long term solution, just a quick fix.

The move also allows comrie to be traded for picks / prospects, or a dman. Right now, it is becomming obvious that we need another centreman so Lowe may be forced to limit his options. If he signs Ronning, then Lupul's trade value is way down. He can also do a coburn deal without stephan being in the mix.

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Is he a good faceoff man this is what the oilers are really in dire need of...reasoner cant take every draw, if he is not a 50% man then I say forget it

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