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07-13-2006, 06:38 PM
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Predict the final east ranking!

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#1:ATLANTA
Lehtonen in a complete season, with Kovalchuk and Hossa in great shape!

#2:TAMPA BAY
Marc Denis will provide the missing part to have success!

#3:OTTAWA
Another great year for the sens

#4:BUFFALO
Brière, dumont and Miller in good shape!

#5:MONTREAL
Samsonov,koivu,kovalev,higgins,ryder and Huet will dominate the league!

#6:NEW JERSEY
Julien will have success in new jersey, brodeur will shine again.

#7:BOSTON
Will make the series with Chara and savard!

#8:CAROLINE
Wont perform like last year, expect a difficult season.

#9ITTSBURG
Except a better season with crosby,malkin and fleury!

#10:RANGERS
Big drop for the rangers, shanahan isnt the answer.

#11:TORONTO
I don't trust Raycroft

#12HILADELPHIA
I think forsberg wont be in a great shape.

#13:WASHINGTON
Ovechkin will reach the 130 pts.

#14:ISLANDERS
Expect them to be bad as hell, Yashin and Satan will struggle.

#15:FLORIDA
Watch them carefully drop! You will notice how important Luongo was.

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07-13-2006, 06:47 PM
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Buffalo
Carolina
Ottawa
Tampa Bay
Montreal
Atlanta
NYRangers
New Jersey
Philadelphia
Florida
Boston
Toronto
NYIslanders
Pittsburgh
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Atlanta and Tampa are in the same division, so in your standings, Tampa Bay would be 4th, Ottawa 2nd, and New Jersey 3rd.

My optimistic prediction:

1. Carolina
2. Ottawa
3. New Jersey
4. Montreal
5. Buffalo
6. Atlanta
7. Philadelphia
8. Boston
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9. NY Rangers
10. Tampa Bay
11. Florida
12. Toronto
13. Pittsburgh
14. NY Islanders
15. Washington

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07-13-2006, 06:53 PM
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#1:ATLANTA
Lehtonen in a complete season, with Kovalchuk and Hossa in great shape!
They will fight for the last playoff spot available. Not enough depth, poor D, unexperimented and unproven goaltender (even if i like lehtonen very much). [/QUOTE]

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#2:TAMPA BAY
Marc Denis will provide the missing part to have success!
I 50% agree. Denis will help them a lot, underrated goalie IMO but their D suck now w/o Kubina. Kuba is not as good as fans except.

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#3:OTTAWA
Another great year for the sens
Yes they will end in the 2 first this year again. But yet again they will choke. And again. And again. For the next 5 years, then they will rebuild and draft another Daigle. Then, they will move to Quebec and win the Cup. Sens must suffer .

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#4:BUFFALO
Brière, dumont and Miller in good shape!
Agree. They are even likely to crack top 3 in the East.

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#5:MONTREAL
Samsonov,koivu,kovalev,higgins,ryder and Huet will dominate the league!
A bit optimist, but realistic. I think we will ends up 6th.

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#6:NEW JERSEY
Julien will have success in new jersey, brodeur will shine again.
Yes, they will end top 4 because of Brodeur.

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#7:BOSTON
Will make the series with Chara and savard!
Yope but Chara will bring '' Choking Heritage '' to Bruins and they will be eliminated in the first round. Savard never played a playoff game so he will be a big dissapointement in playoff.

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#8:CAROLINE
Wont perform like last year, expect a difficult season.
Cant see how they ends up 8th. Pretty good team, dont lose many of them players. Top 5 lock IMO.

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#9ITTSBURG
Except a better season with crosby,malkin and fleury!
They will have a better season, yes, fight for playoff spot, yes. 9th seems right.

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#10:RANGERS
Big drop for the rangers, shanahan isnt the answer.
Well, I agree they will drop but I dont think that much.

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#11:TORONTO
I don't trust Raycroft
I dont trust him neither. They will still fight for a playoff spot though.

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#12HILADELPHIA
I think forsberg wont be in a great shape.
Forsberg will have a pretty good season and Flyers will make the playoff. Flyers making the playoff, or at worst ends 9th, is a lock IMO.

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#13:WASHINGTON
Ovechkin will reach the 130 pts.
No way. 110 to 120 pts max. Zednik with 60 goals too .

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#14:ISLANDERS
Expect them to be bad as hell, Yashin and Satan will struggle.
Yap they suck, maybe they will grab Esposito with a bit of luck.

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#15:FLORIDA
Watch them carefully drop! You will notice how important Luongo was.
Disagree. Very good team will fight for playoff spot. I like them alot, even if they dont have Luongo anymore.

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Atlanta and Tampa are in the same division, so in your standings, Tampa Bay would be 4th, Ottawa 2nd, and New Jersey 3rd.

My optimistic prediction:

1. Carolina
2. Ottawa
3. New Jersey
4. Montreal
5. Buffalo
6. Atlanta
7. Philadelphia
8. Boston
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9. NY Rangers
10. Tampa Bay
11. Florida
12. Toronto
13. Pittsburgh
14. NY Islanders
15. Washington
yes , you are correct!

sorry for the mistake!

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#1: ottawa
#2: philadelphia
#3: tampa Bay
#4: buffalo
#5: new Jersey
#6: montreal
#7: atlanta
#8: boston
#9: toronto
#10: rangers
#11: caroline
#12: florida
#13: islanders
#14: pittsburg
#15: washington

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07-13-2006, 07:01 PM
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#1:ATLANTA
Lehtonen in a complete season, with Kovalchuk and Hossa in great shape!

#2:TAMPA BAY
Marc Denis will provide the missing part to have success!
I stopped here... Two teams in the same division finishing #1 and #2... On top of it it's Atlanta and Tampa.

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1. Buffalo
2. Devils if they manage to sign Gomez AND gionta somehow, if not : Rangers
3. Carolina
4. Ottawa
5. Rangers / Devils
6. Montreal : Samsonov and Johnson really gives us a boost
7. Philly (i cant name more than 3 D-men there)
8. Toronto or Boston
9. Boston or Toronto ;p
10. Tampa
11. Atlanta
12. Florida
13. Pittsburgh
14. Islanders
15. Washington

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NO WAY the Devils stay in the hunt.
They have massive problems with the CAP.
The Devils will NOT make the playoffs next year.

The Rangers will drop some, getting in the playoffs in 8th place. The bottom clubs in thier division have got a lot better, no easy games next year.

Look for Pittsburg to move all the way up to 9th.
Boston will actualy play better but lose many close games, overall team speed still being the problem.
Philly will drop some to 8th-9th

Toronto will actualy drop some. Still plagued with not so good 3rd and 4th lines compaired to all the others. Team speed is still an issue. Still too many knife fighters ( big but slowish) to a gun fight ( speed to burn)


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NO WAY the Devils stay in the hunt.
They have massive problems with the CAP.
The Devils will NOT make the playoffs next year.
in fact, they'll make the playoffs, but certainly not in the top 4

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  1. Ottawa
  2. New Jersey
  3. Carolina
  4. Buffalo
  5. Montreal
  6. Atlanta
  7. NY Rangers
  8. Philadelphia
  9. Toronto
  10. Tampa Bay
  11. Florida
  12. Boston
  13. Pittsburgh
  14. Washington
  15. NY Islanders
Tough list to make in mid-July.

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NO WAY the Devils stay in the hunt.
They have massive problems with the CAP.
The Devils will NOT make the playoffs next year.

The Rangers will drop some, getting in the playoffs in 8th place. The bottom clubs in thier division have got a lot better, no easy games next year.

Look for Pittsburg to move all the way up to 9th.
Boston will actualy play better but lose many close games, overall team speed still being the problem.
Philly will drop some to 8th-9th
Lou will probably find a way to fix his cap problems, same thing happened last year and they finished 3rd. Although a 10 game winning streak helps out a bit.

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Lou will probably find a way to fix his cap problems, same thing happened last year and they finished 3rd. Although a 10 game winning streak helps out a bit.
did he have to trade any players last year in order not to "défoncer" the cao?

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did he have to trade any players last year in order not to "défoncer" the cao?
I'm not sure how it happened. But during the season didn't Malakhov 'retire'. Mogilny got sent to the minors, cleared waivers. I don't remember if he traded anyone.

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I'm not sure how it happened. But during the season didn't Malakhov 'retire'. Mogilny got sent to the minors, cleared waivers. I don't remember if he traded anyone.
I can't remember them making a trade in fact...

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1st - Ottawa: Still the beast of the east. Spezza and Heatly together are going to be something to watch, let me tell you!

2nd - NY Rangers: This is a maybe situation. Either Jagr uses the loss of his Triple Crown as motivation, or he sulks and pouts all season. Lundqvist will be golden again, and Shanahan never hurts.

3rd - Carolina: Essentially the same team. I don't know if Ward can keep up his Roy-esque play, and they have no real backup to speak of if he does fall off the wagon. A lot of their veterns reached their crecendo this season and are on the downside now. Staal will dominate.

4th - Florida: What's that? Calling me crazy, eh? Auld is a solid young goalie who will be better next season. Jokinen and Bertuzzi, with Nieuwendyk or Stumpel, will form one of the most dominant lines in the league. Bouwmeester and Van Ryn are very capable defenders, and Allen is a good, tough stay-at-homer. Luongo's loss will be felt but not as bad as some expect.

5th - Montreal:
Guys like Perezhogin and Higgins will only get better next season. Perezhogin took a lot of time to adjust to the NHL game but by the seasons end he was just magic to watch. The speed is going to be incredible. Samsanov and Kovalev are incredibly puck-handlers, the defense is solid, a lot of leadership, lots of young talent, little small, as long as the goaltending doesn't flop I think they've got a great, Buffalo-type team.

6th - Devils:
Ok, they got Elias. But are they going to be able to keep guys like Gomez and Gionta? Doubt it! Lou doesn't seem to know what he's doing in the cap era, handing out huge contracts for incredible periods of time and overpaying for guys like Colin White... Brodeur is still going to get them into the playoffs, mind you.

7th - Buffalo: 12 players going to arbitration is never good. That means that they will certainly be unable to keep them all, and they'll lose large chunks of their team. They don't have the shot-blocking of McKee anymore, which is going to be a huge hole to fill. Ruff's coaching should still make them a playoff team, though.

8th - Tampa: Denis is a defiante upgrade in goal, but they've still got a huge amount of money tied up in 3 players.They won't be able to sign anyone to play with those guys, it'll be a one-line team with no one else. Same with the D, one good pairing and no one else.

9th - Pittsburgh: Offensivly, they'll be top 5 in the league. Defensivly, bottom 5. Enough said.

10th - Philly: I'm still not sold that Forsberg will be back in time to start the season, and if he is back, that he'll be healthy. Still WAY to slow for the New NHL, and the goaltending is a major question mark.

11th - Atlanta: Same boat as Pittsburgh, except the only center they have to speak of is Bobby Holik, and they won't be able to sign anyone to fill that roll because of the court ruling that allows them 1 year contracts only. Goaltending should be good if Lehtonen stays healthy, though.

12th - Boston: Ok, they got Chara. That's an improvment on former big-man Gill. They got Savard, who's a nobody without a Kovalchuk-class player on his wing, and nothing compared to Thornton. No cap room AT ALL, and they've still got to sign Boyes and Bergeron. Still question marks in goal.

13th - Toronto: Laughably overpaid defense corps. No forwards to speak of past Mats Sundin, even if they sign Anson Carter. Still going to be scoring almost all their points on the PP. Goaltending is a gigantic question mark.

14th - Washington: Glen Hanlon is a genius, he can make a team of ECHLers (And Ovechkin) into a team that, at the very least, competes every night. Still not enough talent though, even with the addition of Zednik and Pothier. Is Kolzig capable of playing goal at a high enough level anymore?

15th - NY Islanders: Garbage. Yashin is the most overpriced, high-maintanence piece of trash in the league. DiPietro was rushed and still can't play well enough at an NHL level. Satan is, like Yashin, very good at scoring the 4th or 5th goal in a 7-0 blowout, but isn't there when you need him most. No one else on the team is even worth writing about. Worst in the league.


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Lou will probably find a way to fix his cap problems, same thing happened last year and they finished 3rd. Although a 10 game winning streak helps out a bit.
Lou did NOT SOLVE ANYTHING last year, the put off the CAP problem to this year when Daly finally told him Both Mogilny and Malalov hits his club this year. In fact he is so much trouble, he has already spent his entire CAP room on 18 players when he must have 23 and that is he dumps both Gionta and Gomez. Thats HUGE.
He might somehow save one but not both and add the FACT that he MUST sign 4-5 more players at the minimum, those 4-5 player wont be much good but he will have to play them. The devils are about to drop.

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I can't remember them making a trade in fact...
But somehow he stayed under the cap. I agree though, it does seem like he has some money issues. He's at $42 million, and has Gionta, Gomez, Hale and Martin left to sign. That 42 million dollars includes Malakhov and Mogilny.

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Lou did NOT SOLVE ANYTHING last year, the put off the CAP problem to this year when Daly finally told him Both Mogilny and Malalov hits his club this year. In fact he is so much trouble, he has already spent his entire CAP room on 18 players when he must have 23 and that is he dumps both Gionta and Gomez. Thats HUGE.
He might somehow save one but not both and add the FACT that he MUST sign 4-5 more players at the minimum, those 4-5 player wont be much good but he will have to play them. The devils are about to drop.
Maybe they can convince Mogilny and Malakhov to stay home for $500, 000 each and give their remaining 3 million or so to Gionta and Gomez. So, Lou signs Gionta, Gomez for 450.

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How much would you give up for Gomez if Malakhov or Mogilny had to come over too? I don't think I'd be able to do it, the cap hit would be too big, resigning Gomez AND keeping Mogilny, I would estimate the salary being acquired would be about $8m.


But then I wonder, does anyone know if the team Malakhov would be "traded" too would have to take his cap hit too if they sent him down? Because technically he did not retire with this team....a long shot, but it'd be interesting to see if there was a loophole

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Buffalo
Carolina
New Jersey
Montreal
Tampa Bay
NY Rangers
Ottawa
Atlanta
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Boston
Philadelphia
Florida
Toronto
Pittsburg
Washington
NY Islanders


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How much would you give up for Gomez if Malakhov or Mogilny had to come over too? I don't think I'd be able to do it, the cap hit would be too big, resigning Gomez AND keeping Mogilny, I would estimate the salary being acquired would be about $8m.


But then I wonder, does anyone know if the team Malakhov would be "traded" too would have to take his cap hit too if they sent him down? Because technically he did not retire with this team....a long shot, but it'd be interesting to see if there was a loophole
What if Malakhov doesn't make the team at the camp, do you think there would be someway to save money there? Same with Mogilny.

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I'm not sure how it happened. But during the season didn't Malakhov 'retire'. Mogilny got sent to the minors, cleared waivers. I don't remember if he traded anyone.
No No. Malakov says he never retired,that Lou just said that in order to dump him, court action is in the works.
Mogilny was over 35 years old and Luo forgot that part. Mogilny MUST be paid as the new CBA says and Lou lost that little fight also.
It looks like Luo sidestepped the rule book last year in order to keep his team together, but Daly has lowered the boom on him for this year. Both The Mogilny and Malakov contracts are total CAP hits for this year. Thats why the Devils have a 38mil Cap this year for players.

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Maybe they can convince Mogilny and Malakhov to stay home for $500, 000 each and give their remaining 3 million or so to Gionta and Gomez. So, Lou signs Gionta, Gomez for 450.
You got that wrong, it's 6.5 mil
3.5 for Malavov and 3.0 for Mogilny

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