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07-21-2006, 03:32 PM
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Corey Locke

I'm just curious as to why Corey Locke is not seen as one of our top rookies or why he was picked in the 4th round. I mean, the guy was CHL player of the year, OHL player of the year twice as well as our scoring leader on the Bulldogs yet most people don't think he'll even get to play in the NHL.

Why?


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5'9.
165lbs.
No grit.

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07-21-2006, 03:35 PM
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So? Martin St-Louis is the same height, but does have 20 pounds extra. I still don't see that excuse as the only reason why a natural scorer like him would be overlooked.

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I'm just curious as to why Corey Locke is not seen as one of our top rookies or why he was picked in the 4th round. I mean, the guys was CHL player of the year, OHL player of the year twice as well as our scoring leader on the Bulldogs yet most people don't think he'll even get to play in the NHL.

Why?
He has his work cut out for him. I think he's highly skilled, great passer, excells on the PP, has improved his skating/foot speed but still has a lot of work to do on the physical side of things. Must get stronger, and a better first step/acceleration and overall speed.

imo I can't see him in the lineup unless Riberio is gone because they play such a similar game, both slow the game down to their speed, can make some insane passes, and can hurt you on the PP.

I'm not counting him out, but another problem for him is the prospect depth, we have several other prospects that have moved above him in the depth chart imo. Chipchura, Lapierre, Grabovsky, all centers that either have size or speed that Locke doesnt have. That said he enters the final year on his contract so we'll see what he does and how much he's improved.

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07-21-2006, 03:43 PM
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5'9.
165lbs.
No grit.
Have you seen him play??

He's got grit, just not the foot speed for the NHL! I saw him play a lot with the 67's and let me tell you, if he can earn the "C" under Kilray, he's got grit!!!

Locke has all kinds of hockey sense and playmaking abilities, but he is listed at 5'9, but I've stood near him and he's shorter than that. If he gained speed, he has a shot!!

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So? Martin St-Louis is the same height, but does have 20 pounds extra. I still don't see that excuse as the only reason why a natural scorer like him would be overlooked.
Martin St. Louis can skate, and plays a bigger man's game.

Locke is kind of like a Ribeiro. But even smaller.

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07-21-2006, 03:46 PM
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Not a lot of pro upside is the reason why he was drafted in the 4th round. Happens all the time... just because the guy was a junior superstar doesn't mean he's gonna be a good NHL player.

Just look at Ribeiro .

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I've seen him play a lot in Hamilton these 2 seasons and if he had "grit" in the OHL, he must have left it back in Ottawa. He is prone to taking nights off, it no accident that he was a healthy scratch a couple of times last season.
I see him in the AHL for a couple more years then I expect him to head to Europe.

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07-21-2006, 03:57 PM
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The guy is getting by on talent alone, but in the NHL there are legions of players who offer more in the way of a complete package.

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Locke is also slower than Ribeiro.

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Locke is also slower than Ribeiro.
is that possible, oy vay

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is that possible, oy vay
I haven't seen Locke recently but I would say he's no faster than Ribeiro (which isn't saying much).

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07-21-2006, 05:09 PM
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GREAT shot, awesome vision...
but NO speed to make up for his lack of size and strength.
poor guy, he works really hard as well.

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I've seen him play a lot in Hamilton these 2 seasons and if he had "grit" in the OHL, he must have left it back in Ottawa. He is prone to taking nights off, it no accident that he was a healthy scratch a couple of times last season.
And as a Locke-watcher in the OHL and AHL both, I have to say this is disturbingly true. When we first drafted him, I thought a-ha, he may not have the size or speed that you want, but the one thing that will help him overcome it is his grit and determination. But when I watch him in the AHL now, he seems like a completely different player, mostly just a passive perimeter guy and you'd never in a million years guess he had any edge to his game, ever.
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I see him in the AHL for a couple more years then I expect him to head to Europe.
Sad but true. This is his make or break season with the Habs, IMO. After this, he might get a couple of kick-around looksees in other NHL organisations - if he still wants to try it, that is - a la Simon Gamache, then it will eventually become clear to everybody that he belongs in Switzerland.

I really thought he would follow Kyle Wellwood's path, they are so similar, both slow but ultra-talented. Wellwood developed some extra shiftiness and quickness in the AHL, and I do think that Locke has improved significantly in that respect as well. But Wellwood really broke out and dominated in his second year in the AHL, whereas Locke was given every opportunity to do that this past season, and he just didn't. I hope he's working hard and ready to explode this year, otherwise the Swiss scenario becomes even more likely.

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Locke is slow and easy to knock off the puck. When you're a small guy playing the smart game, it's a killer in the NHL.

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07-22-2006, 01:12 PM
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I hope he at least gets a "cup of coffee" with the Habs this year.

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I hope he at least gets a "cup of coffee" with the Habs this year.
Everyone will have to get injured, including all our farm prospects and he'll need to get off to an incredibly hot start for that to happen.

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07-22-2006, 08:59 PM
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Who how I don't feel good about Locke. He will never wear a HABS jersey.

He might one day make the NHL but not in HABS jersey.

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I hope he at least gets a "cup of coffee" with the Habs this year.
Oh I'm sure he will, then he'll say "Here you go, Mr. Gainey, and I picked up some chicken like you asked."

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07-22-2006, 10:44 PM
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5'9.
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In other words, Mike Ribeiro.

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In other words, Mike Ribeiro.
Minus attitude problems

I still hold out hope for him though, maybe not with us but with some other team.

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Minus attitude problems

I still hold out hope for him though, maybe not with us but with some other team.

I really see the MAPLE-LEAFS (1967ers) picking Locke up. Giving him a chance for the 3rd or 4th line, and lots of PP.

Bonus part...Locke's from Toronto, Ontario (no?).

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In other words, Mike Ribeiro.



well ribs is much taller at least 3 or 4 inches

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5'9.
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his commitment and effort have been questionable
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I really see the MAPLE-LEAFS (1967ers) picking Locke up. Giving him a chance for the 3rd or 4th line, and lots of PP.

Bonus part...Locke's from Toronto, Ontario (no?).
Actually yes but he call Newmarket, Ontario his home

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