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11-11-2003, 06:19 AM
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What would you offer for these Detroit Red Wings?

D Mathieu Dandenault
LW Boyd Devereaux
C Jason Williams
LW Brendan Shanahan
G Curtis Joseph
D Jason Woolley
C Jiri Hudler
G Dominik Hasek
D Jiri Fischer
D Mathieu Schneider
RW Darren McCarty
LW Kirk Maltby
C Kris Draper
D Chris Chelios
D Niklas Kronwall
C Tomas Kopecky
C Pavel Datsyuk

Make me an offer for one or a package of these players.

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The only man there I'd be interested in is Matthieu Schnieder. I'd toss over Brent Sopel for him and his salary. Not sure if Burke could do it though, financially.

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I'd be interested in Fischer, Datsyuk, and Shanny(although not at his salary). I have no clue what I'd offer though, likely nothing as the Canucks are fine as they are...

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Jiri Fischer.

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Fisher for Tallinder + Connolly

McCarty for Afinogenov + pick/prospect

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Considering the length of that list, shouldn't the question be: "How much would you pay for the Wings Franchise?" :p

Only thing missing is a Mike Illitch pizza.

Since you seem open to a fire sale:

Peca, Weimer and Hamrlik

for Datsyuk and Fischer

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11-11-2003, 08:55 AM
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Peca, Weimer and Hamrlik

for Datsyuk and Fischer
ugly for NYI .. and i know you are an NYI fan ... so, other than dumping salary, how does this benefit NYI at all ?

Peca >>> Datsyuk

Hamrlik >>> Fischer

i dont get it..

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You nailed it: salary dump.

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Only thing missing is a Mike Illitch pizza.


Five dollars, hot and ready.

Untill Holland makes his usual overpayment at the deadline then the price will increase.

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You nailed it: salary dump.
i hate to beat a dead horse, but what a lousy GM you have. he is now dumping salary because he has tied his success to Alexei Yashin's 90m contract. all he had to do was not trade for Yashin, kept chara and spezza and your team wouldnt need to dump salary.

I wont even start on the tired Jokinen, Heatly, Luongo vs Dipietro, Parrish and Kvasha, never mind Bertuzzi.

Why isnt this a-hole fired before they start correcting his poor lack of planning ?

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You're preaching to the choir. :p

OT, but this fan is really getting tired of it. I was virtually a minority of one for a long time, trying to defend Milbury's litany of youth-or-more-established-talent deals, all with the idea that NYI would keep looking to improve and contend nearer-term. Now, with the team off to a good start, the balance of the roster meshing together over the last couple of seasons, and an exciting infusion of youth....they now decide to start looking at the bottom line!

I'd like to be able to say that ownership is tying Milbury's hands, and to an extent, that most certainly is the case. However, other GMs have had to deal with limited budgets and yet have found success, even if it is fleeting. (BTW, this rant is not based on one Jason Weimer. It's based on what is rumoured to be on the horizon - more cost cutting.)

What we have here is plain for any NYI fan to see. The Isles have reached their thre$hold. They will go no further economically to better the team, and, in fact, are now moving in the other direction. Welcome to the land of mediocrity and have-not franchises.

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You're preaching to the choir. :p

OT, but this fan is really getting tired of it. I was virtually a minority of one for a long time, trying to defend Milbury's litany of youth-or-more-established-talent deals, all with the idea that NYI would keep looking to improve and contend nearer-term. Now, with the team off to a good start, the balance of the roster meshing together over the last couple of seasons, and an exciting infusion of youth....they now decide to start looking at the bottom line!

I'd like to be able to say that ownership is tying Milbury's hands, and to an extent, that most certainly is the case. However, other GMs have had to deal with limited budgets and yet have found success, even if it is fleeting. (BTW, this rant is not based on one Jason Weimer. It's based on what is rumoured to be on the horizon - more cost cutting.)

What we have here is plain for any NYI fan to see. The Isles have reached their thre$hold. They will go no further economically to better the team, and, in fact, are now moving in the other direction. Welcome to the land of medicority and have-not franchises.
you know ... its one thing for MM to have made these deals with the idea that "the time is now". ok, im not one of this cliche guys that has to have all my players under 22 or they are busts. however, you cant mid point change your mind and start reversing the trades you have made, why not just have stayed where you were ? why dump Weimer for a prospect, when you could have just kept hte prospect you traded to get him (and saved the money you claim you dont have). Its retarded.

im sure you know what i mean. it must be frustrating for the die hard Isle fans to watch this guy with a "yo yo" model, build this team (or tear it apart)

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Brent Sopel and a 1st in 2005 + Umberger + Van 2nd 2006 for Chelios and Brett Hull and half his salary paid (chelios)


Chelios makes about 5 mil so that would leave the nucks paying 2.5 mil of his salary

Hull moves into Kings spot and the nucks are instant cup contenders if not favs.


Naslun-Morrison-Bertuzzi
Sedin-Sedin-Hull
Cooke-Linden-Arverdson
Ruutu-chubarov-may/keane

Jovo-Malik
Ohlund-Chelios just imagine.
Salo-Allen

Cloutier
Hedberg

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Detroit gets:Straka, Tarnstom, 3rd in 2004.
Pittsburgh gets:Fischer and Devereaux.

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Brent Sopel and a 1st in 2005 + Umberger + Van 2nd 2006 for Chelios and Brett Hull and half his salary paid (chelios)


Chelios makes about 5 mil so that would leave the nucks paying 2.5 mil of his salary

Hull moves into Kings spot and the nucks are instant cup contenders if not favs.


Naslun-Morrison-Bertuzzi
Sedin-Sedin-Hull
Cooke-Linden-Arverdson
Ruutu-chubarov-may/keane

Jovo-Malik
Ohlund-Chelios just imagine.
Salo-Allen

Cloutier
Hedberg
Done. Then Detroit can trade Sopel for a defensman.

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Rangers/Wings bonanza!

Maltby, Draper, McCarty, Datsyuk and Fischer for Lindros, Carter, Ruchinsky and Malakhov..

Act now, and get Glen Sather FREEEEE..


Please act now...

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Jiri Fischer to Toronto

Antropov to Detroit
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Datsyuk to Edmonton

Comrie to Detroit

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McCarty for Afinogenov + pick/prospect
You're insane.
I'd take that in a heart beat. I'd take Afinogenov in a heartbeat, without the pick/prospect

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Brent Sopel and a 1st in 2005 + Umberger + Van 2nd 2006 for Chelios and Brett Hull and half his salary paid (chelios)


Chelios makes about 5 mil so that would leave the nucks paying 2.5 mil of his salary

Hull moves into Kings spot and the nucks are instant cup contenders if not favs.


Naslun-Morrison-Bertuzzi
Sedin-Sedin-Hull
Cooke-Linden-Arverdson
Ruutu-chubarov-may/keane

Jovo-Malik
Ohlund-Chelios just imagine.
Salo-Allen

Cloutier
Hedberg
Cloutier=Cup Pretender

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4th rounder from nashville for jason williams

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Detroit gets:Straka, Tarnstom, 3rd in 2004.
Pittsburgh gets:Fischer and Devereaux.
Not gonna trade Fischer, even for Straka.

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4th rounder from nashville for jason williams
Make it a third or throw in a 5th.

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To EDM - Kris Draper

To DET - $1 (For old times sake) + Peter Sarno

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