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07-20-2006, 05:47 PM
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Who would want Morris? He's gotta be top 5 most overrated players in the league

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07-20-2006, 05:47 PM
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But isn't your defence the most pressing issue right now? Usually teams trade to address those areas prior to the season. It's kind of a decision as to whether you want to wait for a guy like Schremp to develop and plug holes on defence in the meantime, or if you want to challenge for the Cup again this year and field the best "win now" line-up. I don't have the answer, Kevin Lowe does.
Dude, give it up, You aren't getting Schremp for Morris. You can come up with a million "yeah but Schremp ____ " and it won't change anything. We aren't moving Schremp.

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07-20-2006, 05:49 PM
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But isn't your defence the most pressing issue right now? Usually teams trade to address those areas prior to the season. It's kind of a decision as to whether you want to wait for a guy like Schremp to develop and plug holes on defence in the meantime, or if you want to challenge for the Cup again this year and field the best "win now" line-up. I don't have the answer, Kevin Lowe does.

The problem is that we just traded "win-now" and his wife for a very talented and young core. That doesn't mean rebuild, but it does tend to put a higher value on youth (Schremp) that can fit into a team that can challenge 2-3 years from now.

I'd expect Lowe to see if Schremp is ready for the NHL and then to trade a more known quantity for a dman, or just gut it out until xmas/the deadline. We do have 7 NHL quality defensemen we can roll.... problem is that most of them are 3-5 on any teams' depth chart.

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07-20-2006, 05:54 PM
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TO PHO: Gomez
TO EDM: Saprykin + Morris
TO NJ: Stoll + EDM's 2nd

Yuck

I wouldn't trade a 2nd for Saprykin
And if I trade Stoll I'll package him and try to find a better defender than Morris.

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I think Morris's current salary is more than reasonable the way inflation has raised the bar among defenceman this summer. And he's locked up for a number of years if I'm not mistaken. I had my doubts that trade would work out, but if every team fills their respective needs, why not?
But if New Jersey can't afford Gomez, how would they be able to afford Morris?

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07-20-2006, 06:30 PM
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Who would want Morris? He's gotta be top 5 most overrated players in the league
Edmonton will take him for the right price. anything more then Staios or Beregeron wont be "right".

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07-20-2006, 06:57 PM
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TO PHO: Gomez
TO EDM: Saprykin + Morris
TO NJ: Stoll + EDM's 2nd
I'm down.

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07-20-2006, 07:38 PM
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I dont see NJ doing this deal unless they are getting a centre in return. Losing Gomez leaves a big hole and Im sure they'll want to fill it with a cheap alternative if pretty decent upside. Comrie or Stoll maybe? Three team deals are hard to pull off - nevermind when star players are involved. Dont see it happening, but who knows.

EDM: Morris
NJ: Comrie, Bergeron
PHO: Gomez

Oilers win the trade in a walk

Dogs give up too much

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07-20-2006, 07:40 PM
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Oilers win the trade in a walk

Dogs give up too much
Comrie for Gomez is too much?

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07-20-2006, 07:43 PM
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Comrie for Gomez is too much?

Its not only Comrie, its comrie and Morris, which I don't think is too much either though.

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07-20-2006, 07:45 PM
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I dont think that yotes will trade morris too. And if we did, we would need more back

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07-20-2006, 07:53 PM
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I dont think that yotes will trade morris too. And if we did, we would need more back
I'm falling more and more in the category of Yote fans who think that now Phoenix finally has their core group of D that they've always needed/wanted that they will be hard pressed to deal Morris. Morris's contract (which went from being over market value to about right in the last month) doesn't exactly provide the Devils with any sort of cap relief. I believe the assumptions behind this thread are fairly good and take into account the likelihood on all sides in terms of assets that are unlikely to move. I do believe however that Phoenix is capable of getting a deal for Gomez completed without involving the Oilers.

I would say that Phoenix would overpay in terms of asset to acquire Gomez. I would suggest the following names involved in a package deal for Gomez (again I'm assuming Morris is not moving):

Comrie
Saprykin
Spiller
2nd round pick in 07 or NJ Devil Option of switching first rounders in 2008.

Something to that effect.

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Its not only Comrie, its comrie and Morris, which I don't think is too much either though.
Comrie and Morris won't work. Devils would take on like 3 million more and can't afford it.

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07-20-2006, 07:59 PM
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Comrie and Morris won't work. Devils would take on like 3 million more and can't afford it.

New Jersey isn't getting both of them in the deal, the Oilers are getting Morris, I'm just saying that Phoenix is paying Comrie and Morris for Gomez...

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07-20-2006, 08:02 PM
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I'm falling more and more in the category of Yote fans who think that now Phoenix finally has their core group of D that they've always needed/wanted that they will be hard pressed to deal Morris.
Agreed. I dont think any of phoenix's top D is going anywhere.

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Agreed. I dont think any of phoenix's top D is going anywhere.
Then they will not be able to afford to take on Gomez' salary.

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07-20-2006, 08:10 PM
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I'm down.
I'd hope so, you **** in that deal.

Morris is making $3,900,000 this season! Ridiculous.

If Jarret Stoll is traded from Edmontn, it's for a very good player, not a soon to be UFA who is already grossly overpaid.

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07-20-2006, 08:24 PM
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I'd hope so, you **** in that deal.

Morris is making $3,900,000 this season! Ridiculous.

If Jarret Stoll is traded from Edmontn, it's for a very good player, not a soon to be UFA who is already grossly overpaid.
Morris is overpaid, but he's not going to be a UFA anytime soon.

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07-20-2006, 08:29 PM
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But if New Jersey can't afford Gomez, how would they be able to afford Morris?
Morris was never going to New Jersey...read the post.

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07-20-2006, 08:31 PM
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Dude, give it up, You aren't getting Schremp for Morris. You can come up with a million "yeah but Schremp ____ " and it won't change anything. We aren't moving Schremp.
Schremp was going to NJ since they need cap room. It's a three-way trade proposal for a reason. I don't see him having any impact in the NHL for another year or two anyway. READ!

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The funny thing about hese proposals is that both the oilers and the Coyotes want Gomez and I really don't see how a deal is workable from an oiler standpoint unless we are getting gomez. Morris is a pretty good D-man, but he makes a lot of money and to trade something for him is plain silly considering Lowe said he wasn't overpaying for a D-man.

I think we should just let pho rot, because we may be fighting them for a playoff spot. It's bad enough that we have to face pronger in the western conference as it is without giving PHO hemsky.

My idea would be this

Gomez( with a contract signed) and rafaski for Stoll, Bergeron and Ana 1st.

that should save the devils enough money to get under the cap and still have players that can replace gomez and rafaski.

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Schremp was going to NJ since they need cap room. It's a three-way trade proposal for a reason. I don't see him having any impact in the NHL for another year or two anyway. READ!
Regardless of where Schremp goes... the Oilers would be giving him up and getting Morris in return.

S7ark is pointing out that the Oilers are not trading Schremp unless there is insane value coming back. Morris does not fit that description.

Schremp will not be traded regardless of:

- reputation of having a bad attitude, selfish, showboat, etc.

- skates too slow

- not being ready for the NHL yet

READ!

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The funny thing about hese proposals is that both the oilers and the Coyotes want Gomez and I really don't see how a deal is workable from an oiler standpoint unless we are getting gomez. Morris is a pretty good D-man, but he makes a lot of money and to trade something for him is plain silly considering Lowe said he wasn't overpaying for a D-man.

I think we should just let pho rot, because we may be fighting them for a playoff spot. It's bad enough that we have to face pronger in the western conference as it is without giving PHO hemsky.

My idea would be this

Gomez( with a contract signed) and rafaski for Stoll, Bergeron and Ana 1st.

that should save the devils enough money to get under the cap and still have players that can replace gomez and rafaski.
NJ wouldn't make that trade, they need cap space for guys like rafalski and Gomez, there not going to trade there 2 of there best 3 players away to downgrade in 2 positions for a 20-30 1st rounder. They save cap space, but what for? So Moginly can go play for them?

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Gomez( with a contract signed) and rafaski for Stoll, Bergeron and Ana 1st
For the last time, THE NEW JERSEY DEVILS ARE NOT REBUILDING. We don't just trade away our #1 center and #1 defenseman for picks and a few 'potentially good' players.

We only need to dump one of Rafalski and Gomez.

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Its not only Comrie, its comrie and Morris, which I don't think is too much either though.
To much salary coming back, we'll just keep Gomer!

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