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07-23-2006, 12:00 PM
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[Proposal] FOUR team trade....

There has been some discussion around these boards about Marleau maybe being available. That got me thinking. This is the best situation I could come up with. Its very complicated, which makes it even less likely. It does, however, address several different teams' needs. I'd just like to hear some thoughts. Be gentle.

NYR/SJ
NYR gets: Marleau
SJ gets: Hall, Tyutin, Weekes

SJ/NJ
SJ gets: Gomez
NJ gets: Hall, Nabokov

NJ/FLA
NJ gets: Gratton, Draft Pick
FLA gets: Nabokov

Overall:

NYR gains:
Marleau - All-star Center. Young, playoff performer.

SJ gains:
Gomez - Fills Marleau's lineup spot in terms of scoring, youth.
Tyutin - RFA. Valuable, yet not necessarily needed by Rangers. (Staal, Pock, Baranka, Sauer) ...Replaces Preissing fairly well.
Weekes - Backup to replace Nabokov. $3 Mill. cheaper.
...Cap space, depth, with minimal damage to THIS YEAR's team.

NJ gains:
Hall - Young "power forward" (Winger)
Gratton - Power forward (Center)
Draft Pick (FLA)

FLA gains:
Nabokov - "Proven" starting goaltender.

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07-23-2006, 12:03 PM
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I'd do that.

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There has been some discussion around these boards about Marleau maybe being available. That got me thinking. This is the best situation I could come up with. Its very complicated, which makes it even less likely. It does, however, address several different teams' needs. I'd just like to hear some thoughts. Be gentle.

NYR/SJ
NYR gets: Marleau
SJ gets: Hall, Tyutin, Weekes

SJ/NJ
SJ gets: Gomez
NJ gets: Hall, Nabokov

NJ/FLA
NJ gets: Gratton, Draft Pick
FLA gets: Nabokov

Overall:

NYR gains:
Marleau - All-star Center. Young, playoff performer.

SJ gains:
Gomez - Fills Marleau's lineup spot in terms of scoring, youth.
Tyutin - RFA. Valuable, yet not necessarily needed by Rangers. (Staal, Pock, Baranka, Sauer) ...Replaces Preissing fairly well.
Weekes - Backup to replace Nabokov. $3 Mill. cheaper.
...Cap space, depth, with minimal damage to THIS YEAR's team.

NJ gains:
Hall - Young "power forward" (Winger)
Gratton - Power forward (Center)
Draft Pick (FLA)

FLA gains:
Nabokov - "Proven" starting goaltender.
Gratton sux. I doubt the Devils will take him. Sharks rather keep Nabakov than get Weekes. Rangers get Marleau but would have to add Prucha or Montoya I would imagine. No deal.

Marleau to Rangers for Montoya, Immonen, Dawes and Pock is more like it

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Seems fair(the rangers part), but im not ready to part with tyutin yet.

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Gratton sux. I doubt the Devils will take him. Sharks rather keep Nabakov than get Weekes. Rangers get Marleau but would have to add Prucha or Montoya I would imagine. No deal.

Marleau to Rangers for Montoya, Immonen, Dawes and Pock is more like it
4 for 1 your out of your mind...only player I would trade 4 players for one is Malkin

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4 for 1 your out of your mind...only player I would trade 4 players for one is Malkin
i forgot to add someone, like rob davison as a throw in. he adds size to our d and sticks up for teammates.

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07-23-2006, 12:13 PM
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Why would San Jose trade for Weekes if they have Toksala? How is Jersey fitting Gratton and Hall under an already tight cap situation? Unfortunately for the Devils, if they deal Gomez, it will probably be for prospects so they get cap relief.

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Thats actually pretty good

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he adds size to our d and sticks up for teammates.
do you actually type this out every time or do you just have a word document that you cut & paste out of?

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Why would San Jose trade for Weekes if they have Toksala? How is Jersey fitting Gratton and Hall under an already tight cap situation? Unfortunately for the Devils, if they deal Gomez, it will probably be for prospects so they get cap relief.
Weekes is included because, in this deal, the Sharks lose Nabokov. Toskala would still be the starter. Unfortunately for Weekes, his situation remains the same, lol.

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Am I mistaken or do you have Florida AND NJ getting Nabby?

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I probably should've written it a little clearer...Hall is mention twice as well. Hall is traded from NYR to SJ, then to NJ. Nabokov is traded from SJ to NJ to FLA... thats what makes the deal so complicated.

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Am I mistaken or do you have Florida AND NJ getting Nabby?
Read it as sequential trades and it makes sense (whether or not you agree with the exchange of value).

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Read it as sequential trades and it makes sense (whether or not you agree with the exchange of value).
I should've specified that. Thanks.

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I was reading up Spector's today and a guy that listened to WFAN 660 here in NY said that the Devils are in talks of a deal that would send Gomez to Columbus for Alexandre Picard. It makes sense because Picard is a good gritty two-way power winger with some decent finishing skills that would fit right into the Devils' system and their game, but if Gomez is traded for a prospect winger, then who will they have at center this season? Parise will be their number one, Madden their number two, and then who behind them? Zajac is still a year or two away. When I first read that, I thought that it should have been saying Brule, because it would make a lot more sense then, but they do have Parise up there already, and Zajac in the wings waiting, so who knows.

But boy would I love to see Patrick Marleau with Jagr.

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07-23-2006, 12:53 PM
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How is Jersey fitting Gratton and Hall under an already tight cap situation? Unfortunately for the Devils, if they deal Gomez, it will probably be for prospects so they get cap relief.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=8426&hubname=

Gratton makes 1.5 mil
Hall will make no more than 1.1-2 mil. (Depending on the results of his arbitration case.)

Its a tight squeeze, but its as good a deal as you can get if you're the Devils based on your situation, in my opinion.

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Slightly OT but does anyone think Briere would fit in well here. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but maybe Immonen + a defensive prospect would entice Buffalo to trade him?

Just throwing it out there.

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Slightly OT but does anyone think Briere would fit in well here. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but maybe Immonen + a defensive prospect would entice Buffalo to trade him?

Just throwing it out there.
You forgot to mention the $5 million.Briere?

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There has been some discussion around these boards about Marleau maybe being available. That got me thinking. This is the best situation I could come up with. Its very complicated, which makes it even less likely. It does, however, address several different teams' needs. I'd just like to hear some thoughts. Be gentle.

NYR/SJ
NYR gets: Marleau
SJ gets: Hall, Tyutin, Weekes

SJ/NJ
SJ gets: Gomez
NJ gets: Hall, Nabokov

NJ/FLA
NJ gets: Gratton, Draft Pick
FLA gets: Nabokov

Overall:

NYR gains:
Marleau - All-star Center. Young, playoff performer.

SJ gains:
Gomez - Fills Marleau's lineup spot in terms of scoring, youth.
Tyutin - RFA. Valuable, yet not necessarily needed by Rangers. (Staal, Pock, Baranka, Sauer) ...Replaces Preissing fairly well.
Weekes - Backup to replace Nabokov. $3 Mill. cheaper.
...Cap space, depth, with minimal damage to THIS YEAR's team.

NJ gains:
Hall - Young "power forward" (Winger)
Gratton - Power forward (Center)
Draft Pick (FLA)

FLA gains:
Nabokov - "Proven" starting goaltender.
I hope you didn't spend too much time putting this together

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Slightly OT but does anyone think Briere would fit in well here. Not sure what it would cost to get him, but maybe Immonen + a defensive prospect would entice Buffalo to trade him?

Just throwing it out there.
he would be great here but i doubt the rangers are going to part with the A+ talent that it would take to get him.

Immonnen and Baranka is not bringing back Briere..

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There has been some discussion around these boards about Marleau maybe being available. That got me thinking. This is the best situation I could come up with. Its very complicated, which makes it even less likely. It does, however, address several different teams' needs. I'd just like to hear some thoughts. Be gentle.

NYR/SJ
NYR gets: Marleau
SJ gets: Hall, Tyutin, Weekes

SJ/NJ
SJ gets: Gomez
NJ gets: Hall, Nabokov

NJ/FLA
NJ gets: Gratton, Draft Pick
FLA gets: Nabokov

Overall:

NYR gains:
Marleau - All-star Center. Young, playoff performer.

SJ gains:
Gomez - Fills Marleau's lineup spot in terms of scoring, youth.
Tyutin - RFA. Valuable, yet not necessarily needed by Rangers. (Staal, Pock, Baranka, Sauer) ...Replaces Preissing fairly well.
Weekes - Backup to replace Nabokov. $3 Mill. cheaper.
...Cap space, depth, with minimal damage to THIS YEAR's team.

NJ gains:
Hall - Young "power forward" (Winger)
Gratton - Power forward (Center)
Draft Pick (FLA)

FLA gains:
Nabokov - "Proven" starting goaltender.

No from an SJ perspective. Marleau is a bargain, a major bargain, at 4M for the next two seasons, and they won't trade their captain. Value-wise it's fine, more than adequate, but trading Marleau for Gomez doesn't make any sense for the Sharks financial situation. San Jose also wouldn't trade for a backup goalie if they traded Nabokov, Nolan Schaefer would fill that void. Gomez is not too much of an upgrade over Marleau, and trading the captain for a 1 year stopgap (he will be unrestricted next year?) make no sense.

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You forgot to mention the $5 million.Briere?
Yes the $5m Briere, hey listen Briere is a good player and would give us two lethal lines imo. We'd be hard to beat. And if it took Immonen + (within reason) to get him here on a one year deal I think I'd do it.

If the rumored 5 year deal were on the table, I'd definitely pass.

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That deal sucks for Jersey. Anyway I don't see a 4-way deal happening.

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he would be great here but i doubt the rangers are going to part with the A+ talent that it would take to get him.

Immonnen and Baranka is not bringing back Briere..
See I disagree only because Buffalo has 6 more players going to arbitration. But hey you could be right.

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