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Can Pitkanen have a few 90+ point seasons?

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07-28-2006, 08:46 PM
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Can Pitkanen have a few 90+ point seasons?

Of course he would have to be healthy.

Last season Pitkanen had 42 points in 42 games before he got hurt. He dominated offensivly logging 24 minutes a game. He still finished the season with 46 points in 58 games (only 19pts on PP). Am I over rating Pitkanens offensive ability or does he have this kind of offensive potential as he gets older and better.

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I'd say no. 80 point seasons would be more realistic.

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If he and Foppa can stay healthy for an entire season its not out of the question. The next Niklas Lidstrom imo

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Yes, he could definitely post a couple 90 point seasons.

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Pitkanen is rapidly becoming the second coming of Bobby Orr here at HFboards.

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I'd say no. 80 point seasons would be more realistic.
Agreed, 90+ Is a stretch, let alone just 90.

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it'd be very dependant on the Flyers team he's playing on. He's good, but he's not good enough to put up 80-90 points on his own.

I also doubt he'd have kept up that pace the entire season if he hadn't gotten injured. Just usually doesn't happen

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Pitkanen is rapidly becoming the second coming of Bobby Orr here at HFboards.
I completely agree.

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it'd be very dependant on the Flyers team he's playing on. He's good, but he's not good enough to put up 80-90 points on his own.

I also doubt he'd have kept up that pace the entire season if he hadn't gotten injured. Just usually doesn't happen

Byt he was not even producing huge on the PP. 19 of his 46 points came from there. If he could have produced his production from there he would have took a run at a PPG last year.

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I think he's capable. He scored a PPG as a 22 year old for half of a season before getting hurt and that's with very little PP production. If the Flyers have a top 10 PP and Hitch continues to let Joni play aggressively, I don't see why he doesn't have that in him sometime in the future. For next season, I think most Flyers fans would be quite happy with 65-70 points but maybe in 3, 4, 5 seasons he'll top a PPG for a full season.

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it'd be very dependant on the Flyers team he's playing on. He's good, but he's not good enough to put up 80-90 points on his own.

I also doubt he'd have kept up that pace the entire season if he hadn't gotten injured. Just usually doesn't happen
He also produced almost nothing the first 10 games of the season. Before he got injured, he was heating up and his offensive production was increasing. I agree that it's not likely that he would have held that pace, but I think it's pretty realistic to think he would have finished with over 65 points and that's pretty impressive as a 22 year old.

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Pitkanen is rapidly becoming the second coming of Bobby Orr here at HFboards.
I know tell me about it...

Pitkanen, while no doubt is a great young defenseman capable of putting up some big points every season, is no Paul Coffey, and is no Niklas Lidstrom, until he proves otherwise.

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Consider that the last time a defender put up 90 points in a season was 1994.

Consider also that there hasn't been a defender put up over 80 points since 1996.

Highly unlikely. If he could put up a few 70-point seasons that would be a huge success.

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Pitkanen is rapidly becoming the second coming of Bobby Orr here at HFboards.
Exactly my thoughts

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Doubtful. 60 points probably, 70 points maybe, 80 points I doubt it but possible

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Pitkanen is rapidly becoming the second coming of Bobby Orr here at HFboards.
Haha agreed....solid young Dman but would be lucky to be half of Orr. Not many defenseman are close to Orr IMO...

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Doubtful. 60 points probably, 70 points maybe, 80 points I doubt it but possible
Had Lidstrom played in his prime in this new offensive era he would have hit 90 points. Pitkanen has the same skill sets as Lidstrom.

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Had Lidstrom played in his prime in this new offensive era he would have hit 90 points. Pitkanen has the same skill sets as Lidstrom.
He had an 11 game stretch which accounted for 19 of his points. Great streak but that means he only had 27 points in his other 47 games. Lets wait for him to have more than an 11 game hot streak before comparing him to Lidstrom.

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90, no...

maybe 70-75pts and that would be alot

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Had Lidstrom played in his prime in this new offensive era he would have hit 90 points. Pitkanen has the same skill sets as Lidstrom.
Pitkanen and Lidstrom are two VERY different players. Lidstrom does not skate, carry the puck, or rush deep into the zone like Joni does. Pitkanen is dynamic. Lidstrom is anti-dynamic. Nick always makes the safe play first. Then he distributes the puck. He very rarely goes down into the circles and that's primarily pinching in on a 5on3 for a better shot.

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Had Lidstrom played in his prime in this new offensive era he would have hit 90 points. Pitkanen has the same skill sets as Lidstrom.
Agreed on Lidstrom hitting 90 points, but Pitkanen isn't the next coming of Lidstrom.

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NN is right, Lidstrom is very by-the-books, and his play is based on how well he positions himself, both on defense and offense. Lidstrom is a great passer, but gets many of his goals on the PP. Pitkanen is more involved in rushes and has the possibility of scoring more than Lidstrom ever did. Granted he probably won't ever be as good defensively as Lidstrom.

I don't think 80 points in out of the question, but 90 is a GREAT number for a forward.

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