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11-12-2003, 05:31 PM
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Lombardi is really looking good for the Flames.

Hat trick tonight. Looks like he fits in pretty well with that team.

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Wow, we really did find a gem when we drafted that kid didnt we? Too bad we didnt sign him. Oh well, I still like Stoll better. Stoll has been solid the past 2 games anyways so

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Wow, we really did find a gem when we drafted that kid didnt we? Too bad we didnt sign him. Oh well, I still like Stoll better. Stoll has been solid the past 2 games anyways so
Oh, I dunno about that. While I don't think either players are bad, Lombardi's pure talent is just too hard to ignore for me.

You know who Lombardi reminds me of, guys? Mike York when he was a rookie on the Rangers.

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Oh, I dunno about that. While I don't think either players are bad, Lombardi's pure talent is just too hard to ignore for me.

You know who Lombardi reminds me of, guys? Mike York when he was a rookie on the Rangers.
It's just one of those things, the Oilers didn't want another smallish forward for what he wanted to sign for. Ditto for Stoll. It's not like they were traded for each other.

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Oh, I dunno about that. While I don't think either players are bad, Lombardi's pure talent is just too hard to ignore for me.

You know who Lombardi reminds me of, guys? Mike York when he was a rookie on the Rangers.
The Oilers have a lot of young talent in their prospect pool. I donít really think we're lacking in that department. What we lack are character guys that could possibly be our future captain. You can't teach young players to take control of a whole locker room the way Jarret does. I would take Stoll any day for our organization. Other teams might want a talented guy like Lombardi...it's all about what you need. Don't take anything away from Stoll though. He's talented too. It may take him a long time to solidify himself as an integral part of the Oilers but he'll get there soon enough. I predict that Jarret Stoll will be our next captain after Jason Smith and Ryan Smyth.

It's like me asking you, would you rather have
Trevor Linden or Marius Czerkawski?

<sup>Miz, Iím not saying that Stoll will ever be as good as Linden cause he wont. I'm just saying that Stoll will be a leader like Linden.</sup>

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I predict that Jarret Stoll will be our next captain after Jason Smith and Ryan Smyth.
bah, :p chopper is getting the "C" after J.Smith

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nahhhh Smyth THEN Chooper or Stoll. That's still 4-5 years away sooo

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Oilflip,

I agree with you completely. I'm more thinking of the here and now I guess. You have to admit:

York/Lombardi/Reasoner/Horcoff

That would look pretty nice

Also, I've noticed that a team needs now can be a teams 'don't need any more of' after a year or two. While I agree that Stoll's character is certainly something the Oilers need more of (badly), you never know what can happen down the road.

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Why does everyone underrated Stolls offensive ability?? The guy could easily be a second line center in the future.

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Why does everyone underrated Stolls offensive ability?? The guy could easily be a second line center in the future.
I think it's because he 'looks' like Dave Scatchard-like player, and people are inclined to put those kinds of players on the 3rd line no matter what.

For instance, John Madden was scoring like an all-star 1st liner in the playoffs last year, but Devils fans often scoffed those who suggested Madden was the Devils 1st line centre in the post-season.. when he clearly WAS.

Though, I must say that I'm not too sure on Stoll's offensive upside. He does seem more of a 30 - 40 point-scorer than a 50 - 60 guy to me. But what do I know

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bah, :p chopper is getting the "C" after J.Smith
Who is Chopper? That's Al MacInnis's nickname!

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Who is Chopper? That's Al MacInnis's nickname!
There are probably a few 'choppers' in the league. But on this team Ethan Moreau has had that nick since he got here.

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What everyone has to remember is Dan Cleary would look like a star in Calgary! Put any NHL talent on that team and they will be shiny. Look at Conroy - a career fourth liner that is now the greatest player in the league accord to some Flames faithful. IMO a flash in the pan.

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What everyone has to remember is Dan Cleary would look like a star in Calgary! Put any NHL talent on that team and they will be shiny. Look at Conroy - a career fourth liner that is now the greatest player in the league accord to some Flames faithful. IMO a flash in the pan.
I don't know. Lombardi is a guy that I wish we could have signed. I'd love to have him and Stoll right now. And I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Miz, I sorta think he looks alot like Mike York as a rookie too. Kudos to Calgary.

And for the record I think that the order of who should be captain should be:
Smyth - he is the leader of this team
York - I've said it before and I'll say it again, he will be captain of this team some day
Staios - As long as it was sure that he was here long term, he would be a great Captain
Moreau - I truely believe that Lowe is grooming him to be captain.
Smith - I DON'T think he should be captain of this team

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What everyone has to remember is Dan Cleary would look like a star in Calgary! Put any NHL talent on that team and they will be shiny. Look at Conroy - a career fourth liner that is now the greatest player in the league accord to some Flames faithful. IMO a flash in the pan.
Can't you even compliment Calgary when they finally develop a guy right?

Lombardi has been one of the best developing jobs by the Flames in a while. I mean he comes outta the Q with a ton of offense and they send him to the A and he learns the defensive side (while still scoring of course) and now he's in the NHL and they have sat him once and it was perfect timing and he has repsonded appropriately.

Where was this with Rico Fata?

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What everyone has to remember is Dan Cleary would look like a star in Calgary! Put any NHL talent on that team and they will be shiny. Look at Conroy - a career fourth liner that is now the greatest player in the league accord to some Flames faithful. IMO a flash in the pan.
Really who doesn't overrate there teams players. But this is the first time Calgary seen this type of talent and skill from such a young kid in a long of time. And hey getting 30 points from the fourth line isn't too bad either.
P.S Cleary is crap can't believe you guys put up with him for so long.

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P.S Cleary is crap can't believe you guys put up with him for so long.
Us either Thank Freaking God he is Gonz0~!

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The Oilers didn't sign Lombardi because he had a terrible work ethic when they had his rights, and he wanted a lot more money than the Oilers were prepared to pay.

He said in an interview that when he was dropped and had to re-enter the draft, it was a kick in the ass for him, and that he knew he had to change.

I really don't think he would have amounted to much with the Oilers, simply because I don't think he would have gotten that wakeup call in time for him to change his ways.

Kudos to the Flames for getting him, but if he was still an Oiler, I doubt he would be making an impact here, or even in Toronto.

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Reminds me of Marty Reasoner when he was waived through last year and not a single team was interested...

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I watched Lombardi play at the memorial cup when Victoriaville made it to the final four, I had alot of high hopes cos at the time he was still an oilers pick, but to be quite honest he didn't look all that great (mind you that was years ago) ... I felt that he was more of a parameter player. That year Colaiacovo was the stand out. When the Oilers basically swapped picks and got Stoll, I thought, what a steal, and I still feel that way. In our system and with the prospect we have in the horizon I think Stoll will bring more in the mix. He's your steady forward who is defensively sound, great leadership attitude (something thats gonna be needed since we have so many young players) and he's able to provide offensive numbers. His skating will not be a problem at the NHL level, he's made strides (no pun intended) since the draft with his skating. All things considered Stoll is a better fit in our system then another smallish centre who doesn't play well in heavy traffic.

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