I think this one definitely looks bad. But others have looked very fair too, so I don't think that the process is necessarily off the rails overall. Again, who knows how the respective sides presented their cases?
At any rate, I see Dumont as a better-Dagenais type of player, but at the end of the day, a career string of 23-23-14-22-20 goals really shouldn't add up to $2.9M IMO. Way out of line. (Not at all out of line with the Mike York award, though, for similar production).
I have a bit of trouble imagining that Buffalo will accept this, though. I don't know what GM in the league will want Dumont at $2.9M. Not a lot of teams have cap space to throw around right now. This would put the Sabres themselves at something like $41-42M, still with contracts coming for Kalinin and Miller. Clearly they can't accommodate Dumont, and I think their gameplan with the other signings has tacitly acknowledged that all along - Dumont was going to be the sacrificial lamb. I guess it will all come down to whether they feel they can get anything for him or not. If somebody will throw a 7th round pick on him, they accept it. But I'm doubtful that anybody will.
That said, if Dumont goes on the market, would you want him at a cheaper rate, say $1.8M?
It may also be the case that, as this gets crazier and crazier, cap space will tighten and teams will be forced to play hoses as the arbitrator will award eg Dagenais 2 million with no sense of the cap.
I know he only played 54 games and I know it projects as 60 points over a full season. The fact remains that he didn't play a full season and that he never reached that 60 points. His career high is still 53 points and he very well may not have gotten more points than that had he played the full season.
One would think fragility would be taken into account. Who determines what these arbitrators get paid anyway?
It'll be a problem when everybody in your top 6 is making $3.5m each and that becomes the norm. It'll be an even bigger problem when guys like Ryder compare themselves to Dumont and get $4m later on when awards get higher. Then someone else better than Ryder will compare himself to Ryder and get $5m. It'll just keep going and in 4/5 years time the cap will have just caused teams to all be able to compete every year because the teams with these great players will have to give them up, and teams with money to spend will sign them.
The cap is good, but other areas have to be refined to make the cap effective.
Things are really the same than before the lockout it's just that at some point there will be almost no roster movement and when a team will have money to spend you can bet they gonna find a very sweet deal somewhere. What we saw this summer will probaly not happen many times again with teams having their handfull with their recent pickups and RFA's making way too much because of the early UFA age. I don't think it's bad to give every team a chance to win but like you said the cap is good, but other areas have to be refined to make the cap effective.
Well if you compare his numbers with Ribs, then he should be under Ribs 1.9 mill.. technically
Dumont is capable putting similar 50-60 point seasons as Ribeiro, but there is one big difference separating the two. Dumont can produce post-season too. He had pretty good playoffs 7+7 in 18 games this year - and was decent in 2000-1 (4+3 in 13 games) too.
What?? They were at like 30-32 last year i think , how could they add 10M and let walk vets like McKee and Grier ?!
Actually, I expect Buffalo to be more around the $43.5m mark.
I had done the math expecting Kalinin to get $2.5m, Dumont $3m, Miller $3m, Mair $500k, Afinogenov $3m ... granted, in looking at those numbers, perhaps Miller, Mair, Afinogenov will net even more in arbitration/signings, while Kalinin may get a bit less and Dumont was about right.
With those figures, Buffalo will be looking at a $43.5m payroll I believe.
Anyway, once again: I stated it back in April that Buffalo was overachieving because a vast majority of their players were in contract years. That's bad business. Further: a large chunk of their players playing for new contracts were also eligible for arbitration. ie. these players were in a position of extreme monetary incentives. That's miserable business by Darcy Regier.
In other words: a lot of players that were previously earning very little are now earning significantly more. Connolly, Briere, Dumont, Miller, Afinogenov, Kotalik and even depth players like Campbell were in line for major raises.