HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Prospects
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Prospects Discuss hockey prospects from all over the world and the NHL Draft.

#1 in 2004 - Ovechkin or Crosby??

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-15-2003, 02:49 PM
  #101
kruezer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,281
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by gb701
Isn't it time to move on, already? There hasn't been a new thought expressed in at least the last page of this thread.

It would be nice to see the links to Ovechkin's goals that was offered above - but maybe on a new thread and without the comparisons that get everyone's shorts in a knot.
Fair enough dude, I'm out.

kruezer is offline  
Old
11-15-2003, 03:42 PM
  #102
KariyaIsGod*
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,140
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Mario Lemeuix getting a certain number of points and Sydneykins getting a certain number of points is completely different. You are telling me the league has not changed at all since Lemeuix was in it? Ickle Sydneykins is only 13 points ahead of complete no-names in his league. I'm sure he's done some amazing things but against who? We'll see at the WJ Championships what he can do. Let's see how many scoring titles HE can win.....I mean, picture the two at the faceoff. Does Crosby play LW? If he does, and if Ovechkin plays RW on his line, they will probably be on opposing lines, the Russian Prize vs. the Canadian Prize. Tell me who would win the staredown between the two?? I'll bet you Sydneykins will be the first one to blink. There goes his confidence.


AND IT"S OVECHKIN!!!.....HE COMES IN....HE SHOOTS...HE SCORES!!!!!!!!!
This was completely idiotic...

KariyaIsGod* is offline  
Old
11-15-2003, 03:58 PM
  #103
Dr_Chimera*
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: THE Underground Lair
Posts: 5,955
vCash: 500
Send a message via ICQ to Dr_Chimera* Send a message via MSN to Dr_Chimera*
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy
I know you didnt say that & I agree its nice for the resume, but in & of itself it means virtually nothing when comparing one player to another, so why then even say that. I know why. Its because whoever says it says it because he/she thinks it provides some evidence in supporting ones view that player A is better than player B, which imo is frankly stupid.
Well, I'm not trying to argue Ovechkin v Crosby, but I'm saying that Ovechkin has proven more. No more, no less.

Regardless, that was just a minor part of my post - don't worry about it.

Dr_Chimera* is offline  
Old
11-15-2003, 05:10 PM
  #104
SpezNc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,333
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
I have never heard of anyone else in Crosby's league.
Please, never repeat this sentence too often because that's proove you're a big time ignorant...

My father said to me in joke


"don't say anything and appear to be dumb then speak and give the proof"


P.S: It's the translation of a french expression.. I don't know if it'll be well understand in english....

SpezNc is offline  
Old
11-15-2003, 05:18 PM
  #105
Hitman*
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Cowtown
Posts: 4,299
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Mario Lemeuix getting a certain number of points and Sydneykins getting a certain number of points is completely different. You are telling me the league has not changed at all since Lemeuix was in it?
You're right. The league has changed. It has become more defensive and scoring has gone down. So Sidney's points in a way, are worth more than Mario's were.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa Rules
Let's see how many scoring titles HE can win.....
I'd like to see Alex win one first before you start bringing this up.

Hitman* is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 01:09 AM
  #106
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
Well, come to think of it, he has several scoring titles on the Russian Natonal team...

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 04:09 AM
  #107
Sammy*
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,501
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Chimera
Well, I'm not trying to argue Ovechkin v Crosby, but I'm saying that Ovechkin has proven more. No more, no less.

.
You are absolutly correct on that.

Sammy* is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 06:26 AM
  #108
LaLaLaprise
lalalaprise -twitter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,717
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Well, come to think of it, he has several scoring titles on the Russian Natonal team...
And Crosby has scoring titles from the Air Canada Cup, Prep School and Midget AAA

Im not trying to argue Sid is better, but you seem to think Ovechkin is light years ahead and you probbaly havent seen either play more than once.

LaLaLaprise is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 07:15 AM
  #109
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
Not light years ahead, but he does seem to be a bit ahead because he is older despite having started playing at a later age. We'll see what Sydneykins does in the upcoming WJ Championship. I have no doubts that Sydneykins is good, but Ovechkin IS lightyears ahead in maturity.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 09:13 AM
  #110
Hitman*
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Cowtown
Posts: 4,299
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
I have no doubts that Sydneykins is good, but Ovechkin IS lightyears ahead in maturity.
You don't know much about Crosby I see. This is the guy that voluntarily wears/wore suits to games and practices (even when he didn't need to) because he believes that if you dress well, you'll play well (Sather's philosophy). A guy who sounds like a 20 year old, 5th season junior player in interviews etc.

Don't say light years, he may be ahead in maturity, but not by that much.

Hitman* is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 11:50 AM
  #111
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
hmmmmmm....we'll see about that.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 11:53 AM
  #112
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
He does SOOOO many interviews. I found a picture of him at practice with a cell phone talking to reporters while his teammates are gathered somewhere else.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 11:59 AM
  #113
LaLaLaprise
lalalaprise -twitter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,717
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
He does SOOOO many interviews. I found a picture of him at practice with a cell phone talking to reporters while his teammates are gathered somewhere else.
Half the worlds population uses cell phones, does that mean we are immature? I dont see the correlation.

LaLaLaprise is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 11:59 AM
  #114
KariyaIsGod*
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,140
vCash: 500
Light years?

Have you just not seen Crosby, or do you just dislike Canadian prospects?

KariyaIsGod* is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 12:03 PM
  #115
LaLaLaprise
lalalaprise -twitter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,717
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KariyaIsGod
Light years?

Have you just not seen Crosby, or do you just dislike Canadian prospects?
I wonder what would happen if Colorado got the #1 pick in 2005 and took Crosby...would Foppa Rules do a complete 180?

LaLaLaprise is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 12:45 PM
  #116
Naoned
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Naoned's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Nantes, France
Country: France
Posts: 1,989
vCash: 500
Ovechkin over Crosby. Just a feeling.

Naoned is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:07 PM
  #117
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
I became an Avs fan because of Peter Forsberg.....after he goes......who knows. But no, I do not like Crosby. I root for Ovechkin.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:09 PM
  #118
target
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: nova scotia
Posts: 82
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
I became an Avs fan because of Peter Forsberg.....after he goes......who knows. But no, I do not like Crosby. I root for Ovechkin.
Why don't you like crosby? Do you have any logical reason, or is it "gut" feeling. What has he done for you not to like him.

target is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:27 PM
  #119
DJ Spinoza
Registered User
 
DJ Spinoza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Pittsburgh
Country: Netherlands
Posts: 12,999
vCash: 500
Wow, this thread has really taken off.

At this point, I would take Ovechkin over Crosby. He has proven more, and I think he is a more complete player than Crosby. If I have to choose one for my team to build on (Pens, so this isn't hypothetical really), I take Ovechkin.

Un/Fortunately, my team may end up with both.

DJ Spinoza is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:30 PM
  #120
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
I think he is kind of disgusting. Overconfident, ect. Besides, he's Ovechkin's rival.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:33 PM
  #121
LaLaLaprise
lalalaprise -twitter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,717
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
I think he is kind of disgusting. Overconfident, ect. Besides, he's Ovechkin's rival.
You call a 16 year old disgusting?

What makes you think he is overconfident? Saying that he isnt as good as Gretzky?

He is always giving credit to his team mates and he doesnt think of himself as being special.

You;re judgemental, and that makes YOU disgusting, not Crosby.

LaLaLaprise is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:44 PM
  #122
Foppa_Rules
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Earth...how about you?
Country: United States
Posts: 2,019
vCash: 500
Talking about how his conditioning will make it easier to "knock guys off the puck".......eeesh. Who says he's going to knock guys off the puck in the first place? He may be an all right guy, but he's just NOT as good as Ovechkin.

Foppa_Rules is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 02:47 PM
  #123
LaLaLaprise
lalalaprise -twitter
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 8,717
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Talking about how his conditioning will make it easier to "knock guys off the puck".......eeesh. Who says he's going to knock guys off the puck in the first place? He may be an all right guy, but he's just NOT as good as Ovechkin.
That is like saying I worked on my shot so i can score more goals!

So he works hard, that is a good thing for a young player to do.

And by the way, he already does knock guys off the puck.

LaLaLaprise is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 03:03 PM
  #124
SpezNc
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,333
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Talking about how his conditioning will make it easier to "knock guys off the puck".......eeesh. Who says he's going to knock guys off the puck in the first place? He may be an all right guy, but he's just NOT as good as Ovechkin.
I think you're lost in your planet hockey.

You reminds me few years ago when I wrote that Spezza was way better than Kovalchuk because he was so hyped since 15th. Even if I had never seen Kovalchuk played. I have learn from that. I hope you will pass througth this syndrom sooner than later...

Why always try to find the better of two.. They are two phenomenon. End of debate...

Before few season from now, it's just speculation....

SpezNc is offline  
Old
11-16-2003, 08:41 PM
  #125
kruezer
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,281
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foppa_Rules
Talking about how his conditioning will make it easier to "knock guys off the puck".......eeesh. Who says he's going to knock guys off the puck in the first place? He may be an all right guy, but he's just NOT as good as Ovechkin.
Dude your a joke, he's overconfident 'cause he wants to knock guys off the puck? Isn't that the idea? I don't mind if you pick Ovechkin over Crosby, I actually might just agree, but seriously, you are coming up with some weak reasons why.

kruezer is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:55 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.